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Thread started 02/14/05 4:53pm

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Has Prince ever admitted that not all of his work was great?

Or does he just have a big ego and think he spit hot fire at every chance. Well, I can honestly say that not everything he has done was great. But I still love him and respect him for it anyway. smile
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Reply #1 posted 02/14/05 5:00pm

skywalker

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Here's the deal- "Great" is the eye of the beholder.

Prince probably wouldn't make a song if he didn't like it on some level. See, I think we tend to think that Prince is always trying to make a song with a great rhythm, melody,lyrics,etc. However, the dude probably doesn't think like that. He, as an artist, probably sometimes makes songs just to hear what the things in his brain sounds like outside of his head.

Think of it this way- believe it or not, "Jughead" is might be someone's favorite song. Losta people dislike New Power Soul, but I dig it Different strokes for different folks.
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Reply #2 posted 02/14/05 5:56pm

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Well, he said in that 80's interview that "Parade was a disaster", and he knocked the prince album a few years ago too, saying something like "Listen to prince and then The Rainbow Children. Which one sounds like freedom to you?"
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Reply #3 posted 02/14/05 6:48pm

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and he also once said that "Kiss" was a disaster...
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Reply #4 posted 02/14/05 7:28pm

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Didn't he once say he can't listen to the For You album?
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Reply #5 posted 02/14/05 7:37pm

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Didn't he once say he can't listen to the For You album?


Yes, he did say that, but he said it was because he had put so much work into it that it made it tough to listen to. It's probably not very enjoyable to him when he listens to those songs? Maybe he's gotten over it by now? I sure would love to hear that album live.
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Reply #6 posted 02/14/05 10:17pm

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PurpleKnight said:

Well, he said in that 80's interview that "Parade was a disaster", and he knocked the prince album a few years ago too, saying something like "Listen to prince and then The Rainbow Children. Which one sounds like freedom to you?"


I agree with him on "Parade".
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Reply #7 posted 02/14/05 10:29pm

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Im surprised he didn't say "Chaos And Disorder" was a diaster.
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Reply #8 posted 02/14/05 10:33pm

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OnionJuice said:

Im surprised he didn't say "Chaos And Disorder" was a diaster.


I think he gave that one to Warner Bros. to release just to piss them off and hoped it would flop. The very last words on that album are "Fuck You". lol
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Reply #9 posted 02/14/05 10:34pm

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Well, he said in that 80's interview that "Parade was a disaster"


WHAT!!??! Parade is one of his BESTS. Parade, is the album he should've gotten all the Grammys's for (I'm not a fan of Musicology although,the concert was the best concert I'd ever seen in my life).

I think only after Parade failed commercially, did Prince begin to doubt how great it was which is really sad because it truly is a great album. The only fault I can find with it is Kiss. Kiss was out of place and should've been on SOTT or something.
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Reply #10 posted 02/14/05 10:36pm

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OnionJuice said:

Im surprised he didn't say "Chaos And Disorder" was a diaster.


Prince said about Chaos & Disorder: "That whole album is loud and raucous, but its also dark and unhappy. Same with the Black Album."-Musician magazine 1997.
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #11 posted 02/14/05 10:42pm

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VanitySixx said:

PurpleKnight said:

Well, he said in that 80's interview that "Parade was a disaster"


WHAT!!??! Parade is one of his BESTS. Parade, is the album he should've gotten all the Grammys's for (I'm not a fan of Musicology although,the concert was the best concert I'd ever seen in my life).

I think only after Parade failed commercially, did Prince begin to doubt how great it was which is really sad because it truly is a great album. The only fault I can find with it is Kiss. Kiss was out of place and should've been on SOTT or something.


Prince said "Parade was a disaster. Apart from 'Kiss', there's nothing on that album I'm particulary proud of. The temptation is to go right back into the studio and make a killer album, but I think half the problem with Parade is that I didnt have enough good material ready. That will never happen again."
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Reply #12 posted 02/14/05 10:55pm

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VanitySixx said

I think only after Parade failed commercially, did Prince begin to doubt how great it was which is really sad because it truly is a great album. The only fault I can find with it is Kiss.


That should have told him something. Never mix classical, folk, and elevator music with funk and rock. It spoils and weakens the whole album. "Kiss" was the best thing off that album and was a very misleading leading single.

If he hadn't come back stronger with "Sign O The Times" (which still wasn't strong enough), I would have been in the wind with everyone else.
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Reply #13 posted 02/14/05 11:12pm

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That should have told him something. Never mix classical, folk, and elevator music with funk and rock. It spoils and weakens the whole album. "Kiss" was the best thing off that album and was a very misleading leading single.

If he hadn't come back stronger with "Sign O The Times" (which still wasn't strong enough), I would have been in the wind with everyone else.


Yes, Kiss was a misleading single and it's sooo overrated (the video is so sexy though)!! But , thats what I mean. It's a very commercial song however, that doesn't make it any good or better than the other non commercial songs on Parade. Anotherloverholenyohead is definetly better. The whole album with the exception of Kiss flowed together nicely. I have no idea which song(s) you're considering folk music.
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Reply #14 posted 02/14/05 11:19pm

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VanitySixx said:

vainandy said:



That should have told him something. Never mix classical, folk, and elevator music with funk and rock. It spoils and weakens the whole album. "Kiss" was the best thing off that album and was a very misleading leading single.

If he hadn't come back stronger with "Sign O The Times" (which still wasn't strong enough), I would have been in the wind with everyone else.


Yes, Kiss was a misleading single and it's sooo overrated (the video is so sexy though)!! But , thats what I mean. It's a very commercial song however, that doesn't make it any good or better than the other non commercial songs on Parade. Anotherloverholenyohead is definetly better. The whole album with the exception of Kiss flowed together nicely. I have no idea which song(s) you're considering folk music.


Folk music: the acoustic guitar Joni Mitchell style Sometimes It Snows In April.
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Reply #15 posted 02/14/05 11:22pm

VanitySixx

rudeboynpg said:



Folk music: the acoustic guitar Joni Mitchell style Sometimes It Snows In April.


Yeah, I guess that could be considered folk but it still fit in with the rest of the album.
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Reply #16 posted 02/15/05 12:07am

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VanitySixx said

Yes, Kiss was a misleading single and it's sooo overrated (the video is so sexy though)!! But , thats what I mean. It's a very commercial song however, that doesn't make it any good or better than the other non commercial songs on Parade. Anotherloverholenyohead is definetly better. The whole album with the exception of Kiss flowed together nicely.


That's my gripe with the album, too much non commercial stuff.

Prince being non commercial in the 1990s and in today's sorry commercial music scene: A Good Thing

Prince being non commercial back in the 1980s when the commercial music scene was good: Not A Good Thing
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Reply #17 posted 02/15/05 1:57am

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sabaisabai said:

Didn't he once say he can't listen to the For You album?


Yes, he did say that, but he said it was because he had put so much work into it that it made it tough to listen to. It's probably not very enjoyable to him when he listens to those songs? Maybe he's gotten over it by now? I sure would love to hear that album live.



r u guy's sure ??? i thought he said this about the 2nd album PRINCE . in fact i'm sure it was the PRINCE album he was talking bout , as i really was thinking its my fave and p doesnt like it !!
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Reply #18 posted 02/15/05 2:29am

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vainandy said:

VanitySixx said

Yes, Kiss was a misleading single and it's sooo overrated (the video is so sexy though)!! But , thats what I mean. It's a very commercial song however, that doesn't make it any good or better than the other non commercial songs on Parade. Anotherloverholenyohead is definetly better. The whole album with the exception of Kiss flowed together nicely.


That's my gripe with the album, too much non commercial stuff.

Prince being non commercial in the 1990s and in today's sorry commercial music scene: A Good Thing

Prince being non commercial back in the 1980s when the commercial music scene was good: Not A Good Thing
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Reply #19 posted 02/15/05 3:02am

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danielboon said:

Snap said:



Yes, he did say that, but he said it was because he had put so much work into it that it made it tough to listen to. It's probably not very enjoyable to him when he listens to those songs? Maybe he's gotten over it by now? I sure would love to hear that album live.



r u guy's sure ??? i thought he said this about the 2nd album PRINCE . in fact i'm sure it was the PRINCE album he was talking bout , as i really was thinking its my fave and p doesnt like it !!


Prince said that he doesnt listen to For You because "it was a perfect record. it took five months to make. I didnt really feel like recording for 80 per cent of the record. I got burned out on the songs."
Prince said about the 2nd album PRINCE: "After the first record I put myself in a hole because it took a long time to make it. With the second record, I wanted to remedy all that, so I just made it a "hit" album. I Wanna Be Your Love was a big hit. But thats not the kind of audience I really wanted. They only come around to see u when u have another hit. They wont come and see u when u try something different. Thats the kind of audience I wanted. Thats when I said to myself 'Well, do I just wanna be real big or do I wanna do something that I'll be proud of and really enjoy playing?'"
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Reply #20 posted 02/15/05 3:08am

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Why should he say that? I think all his work is great. lol
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Reply #21 posted 02/15/05 3:11am

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sabaisabai said:

Didn't he once say he can't listen to the For You album?


I feel the same!
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Reply #22 posted 02/15/05 3:20am

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Prince talk bollocks.

Prince said "Parade was a disaster. Apart from 'Kiss', there's nothing on that album I'm particulary proud of. The temptation is to go right back into the studio and make a killer album, but I think half the problem with Parade is that I didnt have enough good material ready. That will never happen again."

Ok Princey boy. Why do you still play Girls & Boys, Sometimes It Snows In April and Venus De Milo far more frequently that many other older classics?


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Reply #23 posted 02/15/05 3:21am

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Some of these quotes are taken out of context.

Prince's comment about Parade, having nothing he is proud of except for Kiss - that is SUCH an old quote, from 1987/8 wasn't it? People smack talk, people say things for effect, they change their minds, etc, etc.

As for Kiss, since that was created that way by David Z and Terry Casey, is it really Prince's place to feel proud about it?!

The quote about prince vs TRC is really about Prince's self-image, and is retrospective.

I doubt anyone who makes anything is 100% satisfied all the time with their work. Look at all the unreleased music Prince has, some of that will be stuff he recorded at the time, and wasn't too happy with it, so it didn't get placed on the project he was working on at the time.
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Reply #24 posted 02/15/05 3:28am

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MetroArea said:

Some of these quotes are taken out of context.

Prince's comment about Parade, having nothing he is proud of except for Kiss - that is SUCH an old quote, from 1987/8 wasn't it? People smack talk, people say things for effect, they change their minds, etc, etc.

As for Kiss, since that was created that way by David Z and Terry Casey, is it really Prince's place to feel proud about it?!

The quote about prince vs TRC is really about Prince's self-image, and is retrospective.

I doubt anyone who makes anything is 100% satisfied all the time with their work. Look at all the unreleased music Prince has, some of that will be stuff he recorded at the time, and wasn't too happy with it, so it didn't get placed on the project he was working on at the time.


But Prince made Girls & Boys the only FULL number of non SOTT material on the SOTT tour in March 87. He was talking shit in the interview.

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Reply #25 posted 02/15/05 4:10am

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SquirrelMeat said:

MetroArea said:

Some of these quotes are taken out of context.

Prince's comment about Parade, having nothing he is proud of except for Kiss - that is SUCH an old quote, from 1987/8 wasn't it? People smack talk, people say things for effect, they change their minds, etc, etc.

As for Kiss, since that was created that way by David Z and Terry Casey, is it really Prince's place to feel proud about it?!

The quote about prince vs TRC is really about Prince's self-image, and is retrospective.

I doubt anyone who makes anything is 100% satisfied all the time with their work. Look at all the unreleased music Prince has, some of that will be stuff he recorded at the time, and wasn't too happy with it, so it didn't get placed on the project he was working on at the time.


But Prince made Girls & Boys the only FULL number of non SOTT material on the SOTT tour in March 87. He was talking shit in the interview.

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Reply #26 posted 02/15/05 6:55am

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If he think N.E.W.S. is great, he has totally lost it.
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Reply #27 posted 02/15/05 6:58am

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I agree with him on "Parade".


Yawn.
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Reply #28 posted 02/15/05 9:04am

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I LIKE PARADE.....

THERE ARE SOME GEMS ON THAT CD...

GIRLS AND BOYS

SOMETIMES IT SNOWS IN APRIL

LIFE CAN BE SO NICE..

I GUESS THERE ISN'T A SONG ON THAT CD I DON'T LIKE
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Reply #29 posted 02/15/05 12:52pm

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VanitySixx said:

PurpleKnight said:

Well, he said in that 80's interview that "Parade was a disaster"


WHAT!!??! Parade is one of his BESTS. Parade, is the album he should've gotten all the Grammys's for (I'm not a fan of Musicology although,the concert was the best concert I'd ever seen in my life).

I think only after Parade failed commercially, did Prince begin to doubt how great it was which is really sad because it truly is a great album. The only fault I can find with it is Kiss. Kiss was out of place and should've been on SOTT or something.


did this flop because his movie flopped?
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