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Thread started 02/08/05 12:44pm

prodigalfan

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What is going on at HQ/NPGMC

Honestly, I don't see why NPGMC keeps effing with HQ.
They must be jealous that NPGMC is a dead board with nothing new or exciting to see and must stamp out competition to give the illusion of being a fresh site.
the new thing is HQ must stop offering video downloads. Videos THAT APPEAR ON PUBLIC TV and such. NO bootlegs. Just stuff that is shown on launch.com but you have the ability to save it on your hard drive.
I have been saving videos because god knows when this current popularity is over and we go into another dry spell (and you know there will be another dry spell), you won't be able to PAY to see some of Prince's videos on Launch.com or MTV. pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed
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Reply #1 posted 02/08/05 12:54pm

Handclapsfinga
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i've been followin up on all this over on the 'quake, too. sigh
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Reply #2 posted 02/08/05 1:10pm

thekidsgirl

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This whole thing is really sad.
we are not people trying to steal Prince's stuff
just fans attempting to openly share what was available
for free in the first place! without sites like Housequake and the Org
I and many other young fans wouldn't even know about alot
of Prince's less mainstream or older albums and videos. confused
If you will, so will I
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Reply #3 posted 02/08/05 2:14pm

funkaholic1972

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OMG, not again! neutral
RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #4 posted 02/08/05 2:16pm

andykeen

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From the words of Red alert 2 on PC


" Cant we all just get along"

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Reply #5 posted 02/08/05 3:16pm

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Prince can be such a JERK!!!!!
I am convinced Beyonce's career would not be where it is, if she had dark skin.
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Reply #6 posted 02/08/05 3:57pm

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Can't somebody hack their site ! (NPGMC)biggrin
Or let's all bombard them with angry messages ! smile
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Reply #7 posted 02/08/05 4:35pm

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I guess after all this time we should be used to Prince's continued desire to have complete control over his online fanbase.

It's just each time he does some dicky thing like this you think "Damn, how can he be so petty" confused
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Reply #8 posted 02/08/05 4:39pm

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MetroArea said:

I guess after all this time we should be used to Prince's continued desire to have complete control over his online fanbase.

It's just each time he does some dicky thing like this you think "Damn, how can he be so petty" confused
What did he do? I'm reading on the club and the quakeand I haven't figured out what he supposedly has done this time.
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Reply #9 posted 02/08/05 4:44pm

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I visit both sites and u can believe they have some lickass fans over at NPGMC. They even mention the org. I had 2 keep my composure. U have a few members on the NPGMC that r always running there mouth. All they do is visit the different sites and report back 2 NPG on what is being said and done on these web sites and it doesn’t take a blind person 2 know who is guilty of the spying. The reason I say this is because if u go 2 NPGMC u will have the same big mouth person answering on each post. eek
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Reply #10 posted 02/08/05 4:45pm

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VelvetJ said:

Prince can be such a JERK!!!!!

yeah..but we still love him

damn dialup...that means i wont be able to get the vids ive been eyeing forever.... sad
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Reply #11 posted 02/08/05 4:45pm

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pennylover said:

I visit both sites and u can believe they have some lickass fans over at NPGMC. They even mention the org. I had 2 keep my composure. U have a few members on the NPGMC that r always running there mouth. All they do is visit the different sites and report back 2 NPG on what is being said and done on these web sites and it doesn’t take a blind person 2 know who is guilty of the spying. The reason I say this is because if u go 2 NPGMC u will have the same big mouth person answering on each post. eek
Oh please! lol Pretty much everybody is on all the sites and if not, they read them all. Can we just stop frontin'?
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Reply #12 posted 02/08/05 5:08pm

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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

pennylover said:

I visit both sites and u can believe they have some lickass fans over at NPGMC. They even mention the org. I had 2 keep my composure. U have a few members on the NPGMC that r always running there mouth. All they do is visit the different sites and report back 2 NPG on what is being said and done on these web sites and it doesn’t take a blind person 2 know who is guilty of the spying. The reason I say this is because if u go 2 NPGMC u will have the same big mouth person answering on each post. eek
Oh please! lol Pretty much everybody is on all the sites and if not, they read them all. Can we just stop frontin'?



i dont.....but laurarichardson think im a power hungry mod so i guess that balances the universe out...

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Reply #13 posted 02/08/05 5:09pm

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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

pennylover said:

I visit both sites and u can believe they have some lickass fans over at NPGMC. They even mention the org. I had 2 keep my composure. U have a few members on the NPGMC that r always running there mouth. All they do is visit the different sites and report back 2 NPG on what is being said and done on these web sites and it doesn’t take a blind person 2 know who is guilty of the spying. The reason I say this is because if u go 2 NPGMC u will have the same big mouth person answering on each post. eek
Oh please! lol Pretty much everybody is on all the sites and if not, they read them all. Can we just stop frontin'?


True.....I said that because I took the time 2 read each post. U have a few people arguing back and forth with each person in such a negative way that gave me the impression that they’re also guilty (if that’s what u call it) of down loading videos from HQ like everyone else, then go 2 NPG and talk nothing but shit like they wouldn’t dare do such a thing.
If I’m out of line 4 feeling his way then so be it…. that’s how I feel and that’s my opinion and I do have one…… eek
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Reply #14 posted 02/08/05 5:19pm

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pennylover said:

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

Oh please! lol Pretty much everybody is on all the sites and if not, they read them all. Can we just stop frontin'?


True.....I said that because I took the time 2 read each post. U have a few people arguing back and forth with each person in such a negative way that gave me the impression that they’re also guilty (if that’s what u call it) of down loading videos from HQ like everyone else, then go 2 NPG and talk nothing but shit like they wouldn’t dare do such a thing.
If I’m out of line 4 feeling his way then so be it…. that’s how I feel and that’s my opinion and I do have one…… eek
You really don't see anyone denying that they do download. The thing is, whether you own boots or unauthorized videos, it's Prince's shit.
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Reply #15 posted 02/08/05 5:27pm

Anxiety

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i dont.....but laurarichardson think im a power hungry mod so i guess that balances the universe out...

mr.green


DAMMIT, *I* want to be the power hungry mod! quit bogarting my schtick! lol
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Reply #16 posted 02/08/05 5:33pm

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What are the videos NPGMC object to being shared on the site? TV performances? Promos?

Prince isn't selling any of this stuff, so how are the fans supposed to see it? The members of Housequake take their time to share this stuff with fans who may not have seen it before (because it's not available for purchase, and Prince has been around longer than some of his fans have been alive).

As far as I could see, whenever I peeped into the video forum at Housequake, the videos were only streaming. Sure anyone can get the files from their cache, but the same can be said (and is done - Glass Cutter) of the NPGMC.


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Reply #17 posted 02/08/05 5:37pm

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Anxiety said:

sosgemini said:


i dont.....but laurarichardson think im a power hungry mod so i guess that balances the universe out...

mr.green


DAMMIT, *I* want to be the power hungry mod! quit bogarting my schtick! lol

gotdammit, i was here before the both of yuz! evillol
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Reply #18 posted 02/08/05 5:38pm

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MetroArea said:

What are the videos NPGMC object to being shared on the site? TV performances? Promos?

basically teevee performances and promos. thought it'd be somewhat safe with that, but apparently not. sad
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Reply #19 posted 02/08/05 5:43pm

Anxiety

seriously, i checked out HQ's complaints regarding NPGMC's most recent requests, and i came away from it with three thoughts:

1) i know i won't be sitting at the popular kids' table after this, but...i think it's well within NPGMC's rights to dictate what's done with its logos and with the photographs/illustrations/logos that it produces. to a certain extent, the internet is kind of like 'the wild frontier' in that you can't control all the material all the time, and everyone's gonna sneak off with SOMEthing you post on the web...but when a site appropriates something like the NPG logo, or when they manipulate photography produced specifically for a prince album, and when those appropriations are carried through not just by a user of the site, but by the designers and owners of the site, then i see no reason why they shouldn't be answerable to the owners of those images when they bring on the clampdown with regards to other people using their intellectual property.

2) not for nothin', but i harbor sincere doubts as to how unpleasant the missive from NPGMC must have been, though i could be wrong about this. it's always unpleasant to be slapped on the wrist for something, no matter how polite or diplomatic you try to be about it. considering the offerings of photo exclusives NPGMC has offered HQ in the past, i'd hardly suspect the club's webmasters have it in for HQ. again: i could be way off-track about this. but i don't think so. and i'm NOT saying HQ is lying or distorting any facts - i'm just saying that sometimes perspective can be a motherfucker.

3) this isn't the first time we've seen this happen - not only with HQ but with other sites as well. seems to happen in between releases of new prince product, right when fans are at their most restless, right when it's easiest to whip us all into a froth over whatEVER. do you think this is coincidence?

really, i wish nothing but the best for the HQ folks, and i hope that in this latest round of general squawking amongst all involved, the folks at NPGMC remember the virtues of grace and mercy. it's all supposed to be about having fun, isn't it?

for the rest of us, i would like to humbly recommend discussing this latest round of unpleasantness with as much respectful calm and proportionately dispassionate debate as can be mustered. seems we always have a kneejerk reaction whenever something like this happens, and this time maybe we can learn by being a little analytical and questioning what we question. not tellin' ya what to think or anything...i'm just sayin'. neutral
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Reply #20 posted 02/08/05 6:03pm

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I'm not sure NPGMC/Prince fully realise the large volume of free promotion they are given by Prince.org and Housequake.com.
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Reply #21 posted 02/08/05 6:08pm

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Anxiety said:

seriously, i checked out HQ's complaints regarding NPGMC's most recent requests, and i came away from it with three thoughts:

1) i know i won't be sitting at the popular kids' table after this, but...i think it's well within NPGMC's rights to dictate what's done with its logos and with the photographs/illustrations/logos that it produces. to a certain extent, the internet is kind of like 'the wild frontier' in that you can't control all the material all the time, and everyone's gonna sneak off with SOMEthing you post on the web...but when a site appropriates something like the NPG logo, or when they manipulate photography produced specifically for a prince album, and when those appropriations are carried through not just by a user of the site, but by the designers and owners of the site, then i see no reason why they shouldn't be answerable to the owners of those images when they bring on the clampdown with regards to other people using their intellectual property.

2) not for nothin', but i harbor sincere doubts as to how unpleasant the missive from NPGMC must have been, though i could be wrong about this. it's always unpleasant to be slapped on the wrist for something, no matter how polite or diplomatic you try to be about it. considering the offerings of photo exclusives NPGMC has offered HQ in the past, i'd hardly suspect the club's webmasters have it in for HQ. again: i could be way off-track about this. but i don't think so. and i'm NOT saying HQ is lying or distorting any facts - i'm just saying that sometimes perspective can be a motherfucker.

3) this isn't the first time we've seen this happen - not only with HQ but with other sites as well. seems to happen in between releases of new prince product, right when fans are at their most restless, right when it's easiest to whip us all into a froth over whatEVER. do you think this is coincidence?

really, i wish nothing but the best for the HQ folks, and i hope that in this latest round of general squawking amongst all involved, the folks at NPGMC remember the virtues of grace and mercy. it's all supposed to be about having fun, isn't it?

for the rest of us, i would like to humbly recommend discussing this latest round of unpleasantness with as much respectful calm and proportionately dispassionate debate as can be mustered. seems we always have a kneejerk reaction whenever something like this happens, and this time maybe we can learn by being a little analytical and questioning what we question. not tellin' ya what to think or anything...i'm just sayin'. neutral
I agree wholeheartedly.
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Reply #22 posted 02/08/05 6:19pm

Anxiety

MetroArea said:

I'm not sure NPGMC/Prince fully realise the large volume of free promotion they are given by Prince.org and Housequake.com.


consider prince's regard for people doing things in a manner which is not of his own design. for better or for worse - there ya go.
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Reply #23 posted 02/08/05 6:25pm

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Anxiety said:

MetroArea said:

I'm not sure NPGMC/Prince fully realise the large volume of free promotion they are given by Prince.org and Housequake.com.


consider prince's regard for people doing things in a manner which is not of his own design. for better or for worse - there ya go.



and i think we should also consider the fact that exclusive pictures were given to Housequake previously..thats gotta show for something..

and kudo's to anxiety for his above post.... thumbs up!

now get off my power-trip beat..the job is mine!! stfu
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Reply #24 posted 02/08/05 6:29pm

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After reading ALL the lovely posts from the various websites....


U know I find it funny


If ANYTHING bad happens in the Prince community legal wise...

All the sudden folks wanna act like Perry Mason...

lol

And if u DON'T know who Perry Mason is...

Then you are too young to be on this website...

falloff


Sorry I had 2 lighten the mood... biggrin
June 19's Pop Culture Commentary - Beyonce'
- "Besides as much as I love her...she's still a 2 piece, biscuit, hot pepper and strawberry soda away from blowin up... So yes...she's a plain jane like the rest of us..."
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Reply #25 posted 02/08/05 6:33pm

Anxiety

June19 said:

After reading ALL the lovely posts from the various websites....


U know I find it funny


If ANYTHING bad happens in the Prince community legal wise...

All the sudden folks wanna act like Perry Mason...

lol

And if u DON'T know who Perry Mason is...

Then you are too young to be on this website...

falloff


Sorry I had 2 lighten the mood... biggrin





i lightly resemble that remark! mad
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Reply #26 posted 02/08/05 6:54pm

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and i think we should also consider the fact that exclusive pictures were given to Housequake previously..thats gotta show for something..

a false sense of security, s'more like it. when they gave 'em those pix i knew somethin was up right away. it was just too good to be true. confused
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Reply #27 posted 02/08/05 7:23pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

sosgemini said:


and i think we should also consider the fact that exclusive pictures were given to Housequake previously..thats gotta show for something..

a false sense of security, s'more like it. when they gave 'em those pix i knew somethin was up right away. it was just too good to be true. confused


but if HQ was so adamant about retaining an independent, "for you but not of you" attitude, why did they accept the pics from NPGMC in the first place? did they really think (or did they really expect US to think) that the gesture from NPGMC was truly strings-free? when has prince ever ever EVER given up anything to an unofficial fan site that didn't come with some kind of deal or price?

of course, i haven't heard about anything resulting from that little photo swap being part of the current incident, so the point could be completely moot.
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Reply #28 posted 02/08/05 7:31pm

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Anxiety said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


a false sense of security, s'more like it. when they gave 'em those pix i knew somethin was up right away. it was just too good to be true. confused


but if HQ was so adamant about retaining an independent, "for you but not of you" attitude, why did they accept the pics from NPGMC in the first place? did they really think (or did they really expect US to think) that the gesture from NPGMC was truly strings-free? when has prince ever ever EVER given up anything to an unofficial fan site that didn't come with some kind of deal or price?

i have no idea, but it all gave me an uneasy sorta feeling. nice gesture on their behalf, but still...
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Reply #29 posted 02/08/05 7:35pm

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i have no idea, but it all gave me an uneasy sorta feeling. nice gesture on their behalf, but still...


now, you know how cynical and jaded i am. lol

i didn't see it as a warm-fuzzy gesture - i saw it as a result of some form of agreement between the two sites. it reeked of "there's more to this story than meets the eye", but if HQ was happy and NPGMC was happy, then whee for us all, ya know?
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