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Thread started 01/28/05 8:35am

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Prince & Wendy: "Reflection"

If you saw the Tavis Smiley TV performance from last year did you happen to notice the look Prince gives Wendy during their performance when he sings "I wanna play you this old song / it's about love"? He totally nails it. When some of the female fans on this site woo over him (and why not some of the male fans as well), I can certainly understand where it's coming from. I mean who else would have the audacity to look anybody like that - on national broadcast - yet come off so totally sincere? Think he really meant it too.

Sure, he probably had planned that little look beforehand, but who cares? Prince is one of the very few individuals on the planet who can come off totally heartfelt when doing something as pretentious as that. I wonder if his non-fans caught that moment as well, or was it just something for us, the no-life-die-hards to relish on? Man, I could literally feel the mid-80s being revisited!
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Reply #1 posted 01/28/05 8:38am

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Novabreaker said:

If you saw the Tavis Smiley TV performance from last year did you happen to notice the look Prince gives Wendy during their performance when he sings "I wanna play you this old song / it's about love"? He totally nails it. When some of the female fans on this site woo over him (and why not some of the male fans as well), I can certainly understand where it's coming from. I mean who else would have the audacity to look anybody like that - on national broadcast - yet come off so totally sincere? Think he really meant it too.

Sure, he probably had planned that little look beforehand, but who cares? Prince is one of the very few individuals on the planet who can come off totally heartfelt when doing something as pretentious as that. I wonder if his non-fans caught that moment as well, or was it just something for us, the no-life-die-hards to relish on? Man, I could literally feel the mid-80s being revisited!


I felt it physically, right through the barbed-wire over my heart. nod
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Reply #2 posted 01/28/05 8:49am

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nice performance
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Reply #3 posted 01/28/05 9:27am

MIGUELGOMEZ

It was a great moment in a very great performance.
....the bottom note of the phrase still bugs me, in a good way. It sounds like it's not in the same key.....

Miguel
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Reply #4 posted 01/28/05 9:36am

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The bit I love most about the performance is when he sings, "Sometimes I just wanna go out - u know me - play my guitar..."

He turns to Wendy just as he's saying 'u know me', and smiles. That captures the nostalgia (in a good way) that is central to the song so perfectly.
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Reply #5 posted 01/28/05 9:56am

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wave miguel!!!

i love the song and the performance as well. I was really feeling his performance. The way he sang, the way his voiced rose and fell so perfectly. It almost made me fall in love with him. When i hear the song, to me it feels like he is at another new starting point in his life and his career.
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Reply #6 posted 01/28/05 10:03am

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I downloaded this onto my PC at the time but can't find it!!!!

Can anybody advise me what the file was called and how I can search for it?

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Reply #7 posted 01/28/05 10:05am

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Reply #8 posted 01/28/05 10:06am

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I think that is one of Prince's best vocal performances I have ever seen; so comfortable and full of emotion, and his phrasing is killer!

Totally blows away the studio version, with that annoying click track. sad
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Reply #9 posted 01/28/05 10:11am

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I just went and watched it again, for the first time since I watched it that night. It literally brought tears to my eyes. Took me back to sitting there watching it, on the phone with TOFKA, neither of us making a sound, utterly breathless. Breathless.

Damn, Prince, you can still do that to me.
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Reply #10 posted 01/28/05 10:13am

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missfee said:

:wave2:miguel!!!

i love the song and the performance as well. I was really feeling his performance. The way he sang, the way his voiced rose and fell so perfectly. It almost made me fall in love with him. When i hear the song, to me it feels like he is at another new starting point in his life and his career.



wave

I literally got teary eyed when I saw this. I don't know if it was the reunion, the rapport, the song or everything together. What a perfect moment. It was just too damn short.

Funkmistree, I agree with you. I only listen to the audio version of this song from the Tavis show.....now spank me hard. hehee

Also the part "I was just thinking about my mother" kills me. I feel that.

Miguel
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Reply #11 posted 01/28/05 10:18am

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I only listen to the audio version of this song from the Tavis show.....now spank me hard. hehee



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Reply #12 posted 01/28/05 11:43am

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jpav said:

I think that is one of Prince's best vocal performances I have ever seen; so comfortable and full of emotion, and his phrasing is killer!

Totally blows away the studio version, with that annoying click track. sad



The studio version does absolutely nothing for me at all. The Tavis version is one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard.

Strange how so many of his songs are better live than in the studio (I'm thinking 1+1, Somebody's Somebody, The ? of U, The One, Strollin...)
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Reply #13 posted 01/28/05 12:00pm

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leecaldon said:

jpav said:

I think that is one of Prince's best vocal performances I have ever seen; so comfortable and full of emotion, and his phrasing is killer!

Totally blows away the studio version, with that annoying click track. sad



The studio version does absolutely nothing for me at all. The Tavis version is one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard.

Strange how so many of his songs are better live than in the studio (I'm thinking 1+1, Somebody's Somebody, The ? of U, The One, Strollin...)


I love the studio version. The "click track" doesn't bother me at all.
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Reply #14 posted 01/28/05 1:25pm

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Reflection,, IMHO, is one of the most beautiful songs he has written.
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Reply #15 posted 01/28/05 2:21pm

audience1

I heard this song for the first time on television, because I hadn't purchased Musicology yet. I immediately loved it, and knew that I had to buy the album asap. I would also love to see it released as a single as well.
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Reply #16 posted 01/28/05 2:30pm

OdysseyMiles

I don't think it was pretentious at all. I believe he really loves Wendy as a person. He said she was the first person he thought about when it came time to do that performance. That says a lot after all this time. He respects her as a musician (his comment that nobody else plays acoustically with him the way she does was really sweet), and though they may not be best buds, he has love for her.
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Reply #17 posted 01/28/05 2:44pm

Anji

Mike Scott was 1st asked 2 per4m this
When he could not, Wendy got the call

love
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Reply #18 posted 01/28/05 2:45pm

OdysseyMiles

Anji said:

Mike Scott was 1st asked 2 per4m this
When he could not, Wendy got the call

love


Well, o.k., if you were there...
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Reply #19 posted 01/28/05 3:59pm

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leecaldon said:

The bit I love most about the performance is when he sings, "Sometimes I just wanna go out - u know me - play my guitar..."

He turns to Wendy just as he's saying 'u know me', and smiles. That captures the nostalgia (in a good way) that is central to the song so perfectly.



He actually says, "-you know what I'm talking 'bout". I think Wendy knew exactly what he was talking about. smile
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Reply #20 posted 01/28/05 4:50pm

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Novabreaker said:

If you saw the Tavis Smiley TV performance from last year did you happen to notice the look Prince gives Wendy during their performance when he sings "I wanna play you this old song / it's about love"? He totally nails it. When some of the female fans on this site woo over him (and why not some of the male fans as well), I can certainly understand where it's coming from. I mean who else would have the audacity to look anybody like that - on national broadcast - yet come off so totally sincere? Think he really meant it too.

Sure, he probably had planned that little look beforehand, but who cares? Prince is one of the very few individuals on the planet who can come off totally heartfelt when doing something as pretentious as that. I wonder if his non-fans caught that moment as well, or was it just something for us, the no-life-die-hards to relish on? Man, I could literally feel the mid-80s being revisited!


It was a sweet moment, but the real reason he looked at her is because they were coming up on the first bridge change in the song and he wanted to be sure she was with him. He was signalling her and if you watch you can see she looks right down at her fretboard to finger the next change. They had very little time to rehearse for this performance together and it must have been a bit nerve wracking for both of them to pull it together after so many years apart...
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Reply #21 posted 01/28/05 7:57pm

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Anji said:

Mike Scott was 1st asked 2 per4m this
When he could not, Wendy got the call

love


Wrong. Prince is quoted as saying the FIRST person he thought of was Wendy.But I'm sure you're right and Prince is wrong rolleyes
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Reply #22 posted 01/28/05 7:59pm

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EverlastingNow said:

Anji said:

Mike Scott was 1st asked 2 per4m this
When he could not, Wendy got the call

love


Wrong. Prince is quoted as saying the FIRST person he thought of was Wendy.But I'm sure you're right and Prince is wrong rolleyes

yeah, check the sig, dude...everlasting's sig that is...
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Reply #23 posted 01/28/05 8:17pm

Anji

That mayb true, she mayb the 1st he thought of...
BUT she wasn't the 1st he contacted

Eye guess there r those who no, and those who don't
Eye'm not the only 1, but...blieve whatever u "wish" 2 blieve

http://www.prince.org/msg...sg_1473344

love
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Reply #24 posted 01/28/05 8:23pm

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Anji said:

That mayb true, she mayb the 1st he thought of...
BUT she wasn't the 1st he contacted

Eye guess there r those who no, and those who don't
Eye'm not the only 1, but...blieve whatever u "wish" 2 blieve

http://www.prince.org/msg...sg_1473344

love


So we're going off what this person says? lol Uh...you go with that, I'll stick with what came out of PRINCE'S mouth thanks. Either way, Wendy and Prince together is what that performance magic, end of story.
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Reply #25 posted 01/28/05 8:38pm

Anji

Ur a Wendy fan, rn't u?
It makes sense y u feel the way u do...

Eye no from "1" who would no, entirely distinct from Sartoria's friend within the NPG
Like eye said...blieve whatever u "wish" 2 blieve

love
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Reply #26 posted 01/28/05 9:25pm

EverlastingNow

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Anji said:

Ur a Wendy fan, rn't u?
It makes sense y u feel the way u do...

Eye no from "1" who would no, entirely distinct from Sartoria's friend within the NPG
Like eye said...blieve whatever u "wish" 2 blieve

love


Why I feel the way I do? I'm just going off a quote from Prince, either way, you seemed like you were trying to take from the thread by saying Mike Scott was asked first. End of the day all that matters is that Prince and WENDY performing together meant A LOT to A LOT of people.
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Reply #27 posted 01/28/05 9:35pm

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Anji said:

Ur a Wendy fan, rn't u?
It makes sense y u feel the way u do...

Eye no from "1" who would no, entirely distinct from Sartoria's friend within the NPG
Like eye said...blieve whatever u "wish" 2 blieve

love

well you know what, WHY bring mike scott up ANYWAY? the shit done already happened, why bring him up now?? unless you're trying to bait somebody into a fight..WENDY is the one who performed with Prince on the show, it was awesome...end of story.
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Reply #28 posted 01/28/05 11:21pm

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I really don't give a fuck who he called first, all I can say is, on that performance, Wendy looked like she was home. Right where she belonged. I'll cherish this vid clip for the rest of my life.
Keep your headphones on.
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Reply #29 posted 01/28/05 11:25pm

Sdldawn

Yeah it was a nice moment..
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