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Reply #60 posted 01/23/05 11:27am

fartman

DiamondGirl said:

PurpleKnight said:

I don't mean the worst Prince album ever, but moreso which one let you down the most because of the expectations you had for it?

For me, it's Batman. That's one of my fav movies, one I've watched a billion times religiously since I was 5, and so you'd think my musical idol doing the soundtrack would be a dream come true. But nope, I can't even bear to listen to most of the CD's songs on their own.

What about you?


Purple Rain. I was expecting 1999 part 2



thank god it wasnt!
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Reply #61 posted 01/23/05 11:42am

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fartman said:

DiamondGirl said:



Purple Rain. I was expecting 1999 part 2



thank god it wasnt!


nod Agreed. I mean, 1999 is my second fav album ever, but an attempt at just copying its sound would've sucked. Purple Rain is amazing.
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Reply #62 posted 01/23/05 11:53am

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Emancipation, without a doubt. A bloated collection of average songs.

Out of curiosity, I wonder how old the people are who are listing Purple Rain. May just be the generation gap at work here...
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Reply #63 posted 01/23/05 12:10pm

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IstenSzek said:

"Emancipation"

The constant self-promoting of this record since 1995, stating everywhere
that it would contain the best songs he'd kept aside since 1993 and a lot
of new kick ass tunes he was writing.

At one point Mayte told the press he had 52 incredible songs put aside for
this project.

So I thought "best songs put aside since 1993? Damn those have got to be
good if they're even better than anything on COME/GOLD because I love the
whole catalogue of songs from that era".

So what I -and no doubt many others- was expecting was some of that hard
hitting, cursing, loud ass guitar music and beautiful instruments.

What it turned out to be was plastic production and slow r&b ballads and
half baked shite clearly directed at the american R&B charts.

The first single was the most cringe-worthy lead off single in Prince
history.

The 3 discs contained enough nice songs in the end when I got over the
initial disappointment, but I would give gold now to see a tape of my
face when I played the album for the first time.

My heart just plummeted to the floor and my mouth went all sad


That pretty much says it all, never in my life I have been so bewildered and disappointed in a Prince album when I first heard it. I really couldn't believe my ears after all the hype. "The album Prince was born to make" was the biggest letdown by an artist ever to me. feeling ill

Also Rave and NPS were really bad upon first listening.
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Reply #64 posted 01/23/05 12:31pm

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Princes first release was soo dissapointing as far as I amconcerned, and his music just go worse from there on.
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Reply #65 posted 01/23/05 12:40pm

SensualOne

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drcoldchoke said:

Princes first release was soo dissapointing as far as I amconcerned, and his music just go worse from there on.

ARE YOU CRAZY? The first album was and is still Prince's classic.
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Reply #66 posted 01/23/05 12:53pm

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[quote]

SquirrelMeat said:

vainandy said:

"Around The World In A Day" was the biggest disappointment and Prince was never the same again.
[Edited 1/22/05 16:22pm]


You gotta quit living in the past dude!


Prince needs to quit living in the past.
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Reply #67 posted 01/23/05 2:05pm

Ifsixwuz9

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Toss up between Emancipation and Rave. Both contain songs I really like but both also contain songs I can't stand to listen to.
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Reply #68 posted 01/23/05 2:17pm

wasitgood4u

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No-one's mentioned "The Hits"!!! I know it's nor an original album - but the fact that P had never cashed in with any greatest hits compilations, Like ALL his contemporaries had, just meant to me that he was more interested in making new music. Suddenly a year without a new album (and Peach, Pope and Pink Cashmere were no consolations!).

But I guess that doesn't answer the q. Re expectations, it would have to be NPS, closely followed by Rave. I mean I was somewhat disappointed by Emancipation, but there was enough there to keep me interested. NPS was jsut dull, and Rave was the first P album that I was embarrassed about.
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Reply #69 posted 01/23/05 2:22pm

funkpill

Anything from the 90's.....
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Reply #70 posted 01/23/05 2:28pm

DarkKnight1

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RealMusician said:

Purple rain!

I was too young when it first came out, so I knew the hits but I really didn't hear the entire album until the mid-90's. By that time I had several of his other albums, but everybody said that PR was supposed to be the best...well, I couldn't see why, and I still can't! It's one of my least favorite Prince albums, and personally I think he's done much better work both before and after.

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Reply #71 posted 01/23/05 3:13pm

Wesco

Musicology or Rave
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Reply #72 posted 01/23/05 3:24pm

thebige

IstenSzek said:

"Emancipation"

The constant self-promoting of this record since 1995, stating everywhere
that it would contain the best songs he'd kept aside since 1993 and a lot
of new kick ass tunes he was writing.

At one point Mayte told the press he had 52 incredible songs put aside for
this project.

So I thought "best songs put aside since 1993? Damn those have got to be
good if they're even better than anything on COME/GOLD because I love the
whole catalogue of songs from that era".

So what I -and no doubt many others- was expecting was some of that hard
hitting, cursing, loud ass guitar music and beautiful instruments.

What it turned out to be was plastic production and slow r&b ballads and
half baked shite clearly directed at the american R&B charts.

The first single was the most cringe-worthy lead off single in Prince
history.

The 3 discs contained enough nice songs in the end when I got over the
initial disappointment, but I would give gold now to see a tape of my
face when I played the album for the first time.

My heart just plummeted to the floor and my mouth went all sad



dawn74 said:

A definite Emancipation. barf

Finally he was free to throw up a lot of shit on us.

Then I realised that Warner was right al along.



Hey, so I'm not so alone around here after all! I salute you guys!


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Reply #73 posted 01/23/05 3:32pm

DiamondGirl

PurpleKnight said:

fartman said:




thank god it wasnt!


nod Agreed. I mean, 1999 is my second fav album ever, but an attempt at just copying its sound would've sucked. Purple Rain is amazing.


I know.I'm just saying at the time I wasn't ready for some universally accepted pop sound of PR.
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Reply #74 posted 01/23/05 3:37pm

rudeboynpg

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Crystal Ball. Lots of remixs and not the best bootleged Prince songs. Not even the long version of Cruical. It should have had Rebirth Of The Flesh, No Call U, A Better Place To Die, Witness and Girl O' My Dreams on it. Also the long version of Computer Blue.
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #75 posted 01/23/05 3:38pm

RealMusician

todd305 said:

Emancipation, without a doubt. A bloated collection of average songs.

Out of curiosity, I wonder how old the people are who are listing Purple Rain. May just be the generation gap at work here...



I'm 27.

What do you mean by that?
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Reply #76 posted 01/23/05 3:47pm

Octavius

IstenSzek said:

"Emancipation"

The first single was the most cringe-worthy lead off single in Prince
history.sad


My sentiments, exactly. What an absolutely horrid choice for a lead single! That said, there are some nice tracks on Emancipation. But as you note, there is a bit of overproduction there. Disc 3 is my favorite of the three discs, though.

So I'd bunch Emancipation, with its awful title track and TRC, along with Rave as albums that are outright disappointments.
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Reply #77 posted 01/23/05 3:51pm

SquirrelMeat

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NEWS. I didn't expect the earth, but I didn't expect elevator music.
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Reply #78 posted 01/23/05 8:53pm

enjoyniki

Universaluv said:

To be honest it was ATWIAD. After the hitfest that was Purple Rain, my expectations were crazy high for his next release.

That album taught me that some of his work can take a few listens before you "get it".



You said it perfectly!!!!!
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Reply #79 posted 01/23/05 9:16pm

RipHer2Shreds

Without a doubt, it was The Vault...Old Friends 4 Sale. I can't believe more people haven't mentioned it. Thousands of songs in this mythical vault, and that's what we got?
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Reply #80 posted 01/23/05 9:31pm

bkw

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You people are crazy. I think every album bar SOTT has been mentioned. Wackos wacky
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Reply #81 posted 01/23/05 9:37pm

PurpleKnight

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bkw said:

You people are crazy. I think every album bar SOTT has been mentioned. Wackos wacky


Well it's about the album that you were expecting the most from that disappointed you at the time, not his worst album ever. Since most Prince albums grow on you, it actually makes quite a lot of sense.
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Reply #82 posted 01/23/05 9:44pm

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vainandy said:

"Around The World In A Day" was the biggest disappointment and Prince was never the same again.
[Edited 1/22/05 16:22pm]


Vainandy dude, I am TOTALLY with you. Although I have learned to appreciate that album, quite frankly ATWIAD, Parade, and SOTT all pissed me off. I so wanted more of the "old" Prince.

I also agree that since Purple Rain, it hasn't been quite the same.
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Reply #83 posted 01/23/05 9:59pm

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the "prince" record.
its my own fault i'm sure...i placed it really high up there because it WAS prince and because i'd heard purple rain, controversy and i think the d&p and gold b4 it.
besides "with u" "Still waiting" "bambi" "its gonna be lonely" and every now and then "i feel 4 u" nothin on that record makes me go, wow!
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Reply #84 posted 01/23/05 10:07pm

todd305

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RealMusician said:

todd305 said:

Emancipation, without a doubt. A bloated collection of average songs.

Out of curiosity, I wonder how old the people are who are listing Purple Rain. May just be the generation gap at work here...



I'm 27.

What do you mean by that?


All I really meant was that Purple Rain may have a higher level of significance (and therefore be less disappointing) to people who vividly recall its release, as opposed to those who were perhaps younger (or not even born) at the time of its release, and therefore do not have the memories and nostalgia surrounding the event that was 'Being a Prince fan in 1984'.

No big deal, just a theory. The fact that you're 27 shoots the idea in the head anyway. lol
[Edited 1/23/05 22:07pm]
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Reply #85 posted 01/24/05 1:13am

RealMusician

todd305 said:

RealMusician said:




I'm 27.

What do you mean by that?


All I really meant was that Purple Rain may have a higher level of significance (and therefore be less disappointing) to people who vividly recall its release, as opposed to those who were perhaps younger (or not even born) at the time of its release, and therefore do not have the memories and nostalgia surrounding the event that was 'Being a Prince fan in 1984'.

No big deal, just a theory. The fact that you're 27 shoots the idea in the head anyway. lol
[Edited 1/23/05 22:07pm]


But don't you think that my expectations would have been even higher, if I had experienced it at that time, with all the hype that I presume was going on? And I would have been even more disappointed?

Anyway, PR is still a good album, even though it's not my favorite. The fact that you can still listen to it today (as opposed to many other albums from 1984...) says something about its quality.
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Reply #86 posted 01/24/05 3:19am

KAB

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CalhounSq said:

KAB said:

Too many really...

Come - after hearing and loving the new stuff live at the 1st nite of the European tour 1993 the album was a hugh disappointment - the songs had been computerised, ugh!

Emancipation would be the ultimate disappointment and I gave up on Prince at this point. I probably didn't listen to it again until TRC's musicianship brought me back.
This truely was the album I had been waiting for since 1996. His best IMO.

Also as I became a fan in the early nineties going back back and buying some of the 80s stuff was a HUGE disappointment:

I'm thinking ATWIAD, Lovesexy, Batman, 1999, Controversy.


You've just confirmed your status as a retard hammer His early output is unbeatable. You new fans crack me up! nutty lol



Trust you're just kidding.

I've been a fan for nearly 15 years - doesn't sound too new to me.

Everyone is going to have different opinions - entitled to them in fact.

The 1980s stuff sounds dated to someone like me [I don't much like 80s stuff by other artists either].
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Reply #87 posted 01/24/05 3:42am

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KAB said:



I've been a fan for nearly 15 years - doesn't sound too new to me.




That's still new! razz U missed him in his prime. Man, what made u a fan after LS? D&P? The Hits? 'nuff said!
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Reply #88 posted 01/24/05 3:49am

DiamondGirl

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To be honest it was ATWIAD. After the hitfest that was Purple Rain, my expectations were crazy high for his next release.

When I first put the needle down on the vinyl and heard all this psychedelic stuff, well this confused pretty much sums it up. Since then I've grown to appreciate it, but at the time I was really wavering.

That album taught me that some of his work can take a few listens before you "get it".


My sentiments exactly
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Reply #89 posted 01/24/05 3:51am

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Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic
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