The self expression is that he expresses himself.

Mindflux said:

My point is fairly simplistic so I'll present it again like this: A guy like Prince has lets say a 50 ft ceiling when it comes to his type of creativity. While you have 2 ft ceiling, and you bump your head when ever you make even a slight move. I think you're having a hard time understanding the bility to create something out of nothing, or just for the sheer act of doing something creative. Because you're not able to associate that ability with yourself you have a hard time grasping how someone could write a fantasy song song about someone having sex with their sister. If I spoke in definitives saying crap like it's no way it could be taken anyway but face value, I was wrong because I don't know what was going through his mind at the time but I don't think that.

I can't forget the response you started out with



That right there is where I developed any accessment I've written about you. It seems like you have a hard time grasping the idea of creating something of a taboo subject out of nothing.

Unlike you, I have put forward intelligent argument to support my case yet, amazingly, you have managed to gleam from this that I am an un-creative, moronic poser, eh? I'm loathed to do this, but let's just clear that up too. You ever heard the phrase "know thine enemy" - you would do well to heed that advice in future, it might prevent further outrageous, presumptious outbursts such as the above. Explain the following;

FACT - I have been a musician for 25 years and play 8 instruments
FACT - I play in a band that has produced 21 albums in a 20-year career
FACT - my own solo album is currently in production and has label interest
FACT - your entire post is built on folly and you have exposed yourself as the ignoramus here, though, please do enlighten us as to the creative mastery you have that so obviously enables you to judge it so well.

'Nuff said, methinks!

kdj997 said:

Please stop trying to use big words; your "metahorical accessment" is killing me.
[Edited 1/21/05 9:24am]

FunkMistress said:

Ahh, stay in a womans place i.e. wiping the floors and giving guys like me blumpkins...

[color=mediumpurple]I dig the song (and worship the album obviously) but what is this song really about? I know Prince never actually had any incestuous relationship or anything with his sister

Ah well, its got to the point of being pointless!!

kdj - you can't sustain a logical debate my friend, so there is little point continuing. It wasn't that I can't see how something is created from nothing, far from it. Your flimsy argument that I am not "creative enough" to see that something could be written about nothing is both peurile and baseless. All I said was that I thought this song was about something - a point you fail to grasp.

Never mind, eh? The world still goes around and round.....

And here you continue in your having had a baby ie NOT a literal song. Can you see your simplistic, kindergarten fuck up?!

And no, you haven't heard my music, so you can't judge and your assumptiveness lets you down again. You bet it contains "jumbled cryptic lyrics that only you understand" - well its instrumental, asshole! I'll bet that while our music is certainly not to everyone's tastes, its passumptive asshole mode! You know jack shit mate. My first post upset you, did it? GET OVER IT! It was hardly as abusive as your retort which, in essence, is what catalysed our debate.

All you display is that you know fuck all about creativity. It does not take more creativity to write fantasy songs than metaphoric songs and it is entirely un-quantifiable! How can you possibly be objective over whether something is more creative than something else. And here's what a fucking idiot you are - the song "Baby" is not about a baby, the word baby is a euphemism, so its not literally a baby (there really is a lack of a train of thought from you on this entire thread). And this also shoots down your entire argument - you said Sister was literal, not a metaphor. Now you are quoting an example of Prince's creativity about writing the song Baby withoutrobably better than most music you've ever heard. Want to hear what we do - go to any music download site and look for Ozric Tentacles (or, for that matter, go to any record store and buy one of our albums).

Then, how about you reveal to us just how "creative" you are and let us hear some of the music you make that puts you in such a position to be such a good jusge of the creative process. I'll jump on your bandwagon and bet that you don't even play an instrument.

Get your education first then buy a pair of shoes!
[Edited 1/27/05 2:06am]

I guess we'll never know for sure,but I really don't think "Sister" is autobiographical.I think Prince just did it for the shock value.He probably thought..."let's see,the previous song is about oral sex,so why not have a song about another controversial topic (incest)?" I think it was "inspired" by his need to make a shocking album and there's nothing wrong with that

Oh and by the way...the song "Baby" does actually concern a baby

DavidEye said:

That's what i think too. It was just shock value. Same goes with Jack U Off, when everyone speculates whether he's gay or not.