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I'm still waiting to see Cinnamon Girl on MTV or VH1 I guess I could keep waiting then. 
And yet Eminem can get away with his "Mosh" video, and that becomes a hit. And that track was even more direct than Prince's.  [Edited 1/7/05 21:49pm] NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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NWF said: I guess I could keep waiting then.
And yet Eminem can get away with his "Mosh" video, and that becomes a hit. And that track was even more direct than Prince's.
[Edited 1/7/05 21:49pm] I know why Eminem get so much airplay! Most just don't want to come out and say it, because it wouldn't be PC. | |
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I want to know why. Tell us audience1. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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yeh i havent seen it either, i live in australia and they rarely play any current prince music on the radio or show his clips mtv...
i swear 2 god australians are deprived.. | |
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You can wait what you want, it ain't gonna happen anymore... RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time... |
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You're not missing much. It's a horrible song and a worse video. :blah: Come here, babe.. yeah... | |
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purplecam said: I want to know why. Tell us audience1.
yes, why don't you elaborate on what we dont wanna come out and say. . [Edited 1/8/05 19:14pm] | |
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If you must see it.... 
...it's available on the npgmc.com website. You can view about 12 videos from various artists there, including Cinnamon Girl. Come here, babe.. yeah... | |
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Tonylover said: yeh i havent seen it either, i live in australia and they rarely play any current prince music on the radio or show his clips mtv...
I swear 2 god australians are deprived.. I'm in Australia too and funnily enough I swear that VH1 is the only channel that plays new Prince videos. I have seen both musicology and cinnamon girl only on VH1. | |
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 Does anyone really want to see this video anyway?
And why does Eminem get airplay? Because he's everything Prince is not; white, young, and hip hop?  | |
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Ok if yall get up early enough yall would see Cinnamon Girl on Mtv I saw it once and i was satisfied | |
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Hate to be redundant, but.....
JUST GO THE THE NPGMC.COM WEBSITE TO CHECK OUT THE VIDEO. NO NEED TO CHECK THE TV SCHEDULE FOR ODD-HOUR VIEWING... Just trying to be helpful, really I am.....  Come here, babe.. yeah... | |
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NEFRETIRI said: Tonylover said: yeh i havent seen it either, i live in australia and they rarely play any current prince music on the radio or show his clips mtv...
I swear 2 god australians are deprived.. I'm in Australia too and funnily enough I swear that VH1 is the only channel that plays new Prince videos. I have seen both musicology and cinnamon girl only on VH1. LOL WELL UNFORTUNATELY I DO NOT HAVE VH1... AND I HAVE ONLY SEEN MUSICOLOGY ONCE ON VIDEO HITS.. (BY THE WAY THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY COMP AND MY CAPS LOCK BUTTON IS NOT WORKING)... | |
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Tonylover said: NEFRETIRI said: I'm in Australia too and funnily enough I swear that VH1 is the only channel that plays new Prince videos. I have seen both musicology and cinnamon girl only on VH1. LOL WELL UNFORTUNATELY I DO NOT HAVE VH1... AND I HAVE ONLY SEEN MUSICOLOGY ONCE ON VIDEO HITS.. (BY THE WAY THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY COMP AND MY CAPS LOCK BUTTON IS NOT WORKING)... Wow I'm suprised that Video hits played it at all! Did the play the whole video?? | |
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NEFRETIRI said: Tonylover said: LOL WELL UNFORTUNATELY I DO NOT HAVE VH1... AND I HAVE ONLY SEEN MUSICOLOGY ONCE ON VIDEO HITS.. (BY THE WAY THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY COMP AND MY CAPS LOCK BUTTON IS NOT WORKING)... Wow I'm suprised that Video hits played it at all! Did the play the whole video?? yeh they did.. i was very surprised too.. however still havent seen cinnamon girl..damn video hits.. | |
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i've only seen it on vh1-classic during its "classic/current" program.
haven't seen it on regular vh1, though. | |
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GAPeach said: Does anyone really want to see this video anyway?
And why does Eminem get airplay? Because he's everything Prince is not; white, young, and hip hop? Prince not white? could'a fooled me.. | |
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Sdldawn said: purplecam said: I want to know why. Tell us audience1.
yes, why don't you elaborate on what we dont wanna come out and say. . [Edited 1/8/05 19:14pm] Sorry for the delay in returning my answer. First, I apologize if this offends anyone, but it's true - Eminem gets airplay not only because he has skills, but because he is white and has skills. This means that he will be accepted by the larger white audience more readily. It also means that these so-called mainstream music critics will embrace him and annoint him a genius, while ignoring other rappers who are just as talented, if not more so. Rick Rubin said it well, when speaking about the Beastie Boys in the 1980's. He said that they could sing about drugs, violence, and whatever else they wanted because they weren't seen as threatening as other (black) rappers. I say this even though I love the Beasties, and have seen them in concert twice and even have demo tapes of them from 1982. Listen, if Nas was white he would sale as much as Eminem. His talent is why he goes platinum, but if he were white he would sell more. Angry black men are more frightening to mainstream society than an angry white man (Eminem) who is considered to be just "one of us". This is even one of the reasons why Cinnimon Girl didn't get any airplay on Hot AC stations. Yes the political message was one thing, but the color of the (angry) artist was another factor. Hot AC radio, which is close to mainstream, was frightened. If Eminem did a cover of CG, it would get significant airplay. Yes there are exceptions, but not in the case of Eminem, when many of his listeners are white kids who love black culture but feel uncomfortable around black people. Sorry, but you asked.... | |
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audience1 said: Sdldawn said: yes, why don't you elaborate on what we dont wanna come out and say. . [Edited 1/8/05 19:14pm] Sorry for the delay in returning my answer. First, I apologize if this offends anyone, but it's true - Eminem gets airplay not only because he has skills, but because he is white and has skills. This means that he will be accepted by the larger white audience more readily. It also means that these so-called mainstream music critics will embrace him and annoint him a genius, while ignoring other rappers who are just as talented, if not more so. Rick Rubin said it well, when speaking about the Beastie Boys in the 1980's. He said that they could sing about drugs, violence, and whatever else they wanted because they weren't seen as threatening as other (black) rappers. I say this even though I love the Beasties, and have seen them in concert twice and even have demo tapes of them from 1982. Listen, if Nas was white he would sale as much as Eminem. His talent is why he goes platinum, but if he were white he would sell more. Angry black men are more frightening to mainstream society than an angry white man (Eminem) who is considered to be just "one of us". This is even one of the reasons why Cinnimon Girl didn't get any airplay on Hot AC stations. Yes the political message was one thing, but the color of the (angry) artist was another factor. Hot AC radio, which is close to mainstream, was frightened. If Eminem did a cover of CG, it would get significant airplay. Yes there are exceptions, but not in the case of Eminem, when many of his listeners are white kids who love black culture but feel uncomfortable around black people. Sorry, but you asked....  The race card is being played once again. Being the open minded person that I am, I can see where you were trying to go with your statement. However, I have to disagree with you on some points. Is this REALLY why Cinnamon Girl has not been played? I honestly feel that it has nothing to do with race. I mean we are talking about Prince whose fan base covers races, gender, and generations. Maybe it's because the song is just ok, and the video (even though it had great graphics) was just ok. JMHO | |
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Dont hold your breath! Goodnight, sweet Prince. | |
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Tonylover said: yeh i havent seen it either, i live in australia and they rarely play any current prince music on the radio or show his clips mtv...
i swear 2 god australians are deprived.. HERE, HERE, total agreement with u we got musicology clip and thats it if ur with the NPGMC u can check the clip over there why do they deprive us in Oz, what's with that???? we have to wait till Feb 2 for the PR special edition dvd and it was released Aug 04.....mmmmm not fair WHY SHOULD I DO THAT, WHEN I CAN DO THIS | |
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Tonylover said: NEFRETIRI said: Wow I'm suprised that Video hits played it at all! Did the play the whole video?? yeh they did.. i was very surprised too.. however still havent seen cinnamon girl..damn video hits.. u mean video shits... WHY SHOULD I DO THAT, WHEN I CAN DO THIS | |
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well guess you will be turning into a skeleton slowly before you see that video on either of those stations... I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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GAPeach said: audience1 said: Sorry for the delay in returning my answer. First, I apologize if this offends anyone, but it's true - Eminem gets airplay not only because he has skills, but because he is white and has skills. This means that he will be accepted by the larger white audience more readily. It also means that these so-called mainstream music critics will embrace him and annoint him a genius, while ignoring other rappers who are just as talented, if not more so. Rick Rubin said it well, when speaking about the Beastie Boys in the 1980's. He said that they could sing about drugs, violence, and whatever else they wanted because they weren't seen as threatening as other (black) rappers. I say this even though I love the Beasties, and have seen them in concert twice and even have demo tapes of them from 1982. Listen, if Nas was white he would sale as much as Eminem. His talent is why he goes platinum, but if he were white he would sell more. Angry black men are more frightening to mainstream society than an angry white man (Eminem) who is considered to be just "one of us". This is even one of the reasons why Cinnimon Girl didn't get any airplay on Hot AC stations. Yes the political message was one thing, but the color of the (angry) artist was another factor. Hot AC radio, which is close to mainstream, was frightened. If Eminem did a cover of CG, it would get significant airplay. Yes there are exceptions, but not in the case of Eminem, when many of his listeners are white kids who love black culture but feel uncomfortable around black people. Sorry, but you asked.... The race card is being played once again. Being the open minded person that I am, I can see where you were trying to go with your statement. However, I have to disagree with you on some points. Is this REALLY why Cinnamon Girl has not been played? I honestly feel that it has nothing to do with race. I mean we are talking about Prince whose fan base covers races, gender, and generations. Maybe it's because the song is just ok, and the video (even though it had great graphics) was just ok. JMHO yup. have to agree on this comment. tis true my friends... | |
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269 said: Tonylover said: yeh i havent seen it either, i live in australia and they rarely play any current prince music on the radio or show his clips mtv...
i swear 2 god australians are deprived.. HERE, HERE, total agreement with u we got musicology clip and thats it if ur with the NPGMC u can check the clip over there why do they deprive us in Oz, what's with that???? we have to wait till Feb 2 for the PR special edition dvd and it was released Aug 04.....mmmmm not fair omg i am so surprised you even know when it is being released in australia.. i had know idea up untill now..thank god 4 u .. do u know which stores will be selling it??? also is under the cherry moon (special edition) being released in oz any time soon?? australia is so slow when it comes to shipping products here from overseas... it has been a staggering 5 months (just like you mentioned)..since the special edition dvds were released overseas.. how dare australia be that behind.. | |
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Sdldawn said: GAPeach said: The race card is being played once again. Being the open minded person that I am, I can see where you were trying to go with your statement. However, I have to disagree with you on some points. Is this REALLY why Cinnamon Girl has not been played? I honestly feel that it has nothing to do with race. I mean we are talking about Prince whose fan base covers races, gender, and generations. Maybe it's because the song is just ok, and the video (even though it had great graphics) was just ok. JMHO yup. have to agree on this comment. tis true my friends... sad but true  |
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audience1 said: Sdldawn said: yes, why don't you elaborate on what we dont wanna come out and say. . [Edited 1/8/05 19:14pm] Sorry for the delay in returning my answer. First, I apologize if this offends anyone, but it's true - Eminem gets airplay not only because he has skills, but because he is white and has skills. This means that he will be accepted by the larger white audience more readily. It also means that these so-called mainstream music critics will embrace him and annoint him a genius, while ignoring other rappers who are just as talented, if not more so. Rick Rubin said it well, when speaking about the Beastie Boys in the 1980's. He said that they could sing about drugs, violence, and whatever else they wanted because they weren't seen as threatening as other (black) rappers. I say this even though I love the Beasties, and have seen them in concert twice and even have demo tapes of them from 1982. Listen, if Nas was white he would sale as much as Eminem. His talent is why he goes platinum, but if he were white he would sell more. Angry black men are more frightening to mainstream society than an angry white man (Eminem) who is considered to be just "one of us". This is even one of the reasons why Cinnimon Girl didn't get any airplay on Hot AC stations. Yes the political message was one thing, but the color of the (angry) artist was another factor. Hot AC radio, which is close to mainstream, was frightened. If Eminem did a cover of CG, it would get significant airplay. Yes there are exceptions, but not in the case of Eminem, when many of his listeners are white kids who love black culture but feel uncomfortable around black people. Sorry, but you asked.... You made some valid points. | |
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GAPeach said: audience1 said: Sorry for the delay in returning my answer. First, I apologize if this offends anyone, but it's true - Eminem gets airplay not only because he has skills, but because he is white and has skills. This means that he will be accepted by the larger white audience more readily. It also means that these so-called mainstream music critics will embrace him and annoint him a genius, while ignoring other rappers who are just as talented, if not more so. Rick Rubin said it well, when speaking about the Beastie Boys in the 1980's. He said that they could sing about drugs, violence, and whatever else they wanted because they weren't seen as threatening as other (black) rappers. I say this even though I love the Beasties, and have seen them in concert twice and even have demo tapes of them from 1982. Listen, if Nas was white he would sale as much as Eminem. His talent is why he goes platinum, but if he were white he would sell more. Angry black men are more frightening to mainstream society than an angry white man (Eminem) who is considered to be just "one of us". This is even one of the reasons why Cinnimon Girl didn't get any airplay on Hot AC stations. Yes the political message was one thing, but the color of the (angry) artist was another factor. Hot AC radio, which is close to mainstream, was frightened. If Eminem did a cover of CG, it would get significant airplay. Yes there are exceptions, but not in the case of Eminem, when many of his listeners are white kids who love black culture but feel uncomfortable around black people. Sorry, but you asked.... The race card is being played once again. Being the open minded person that I am, I can see where you were trying to go with your statement. However, I have to disagree with you on some points. Is this REALLY why Cinnamon Girl has not been played? I honestly feel that it has nothing to do with race. I mean we are talking about Prince whose fan base covers races, gender, and generations. Maybe it's because the song is just ok, and the video (even though it had great graphics) was just ok. JMHO or maybe the song sux  | |
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Tonylover said: 269 said: HERE, HERE, total agreement with u we got musicology clip and thats it if ur with the NPGMC u can check the clip over there why do they deprive us in Oz, what's with that???? we have to wait till Feb 2 for the PR special edition dvd and it was released Aug 04.....mmmmm not fair omg i am so surprised you even know when it is being released in australia.. i had know idea up untill now..thank god 4 u .. do u know which stores will be selling it??? also is under the cherry moon (special edition) being released in oz any time soon?? australia is so slow when it comes to shipping products here from overseas... it has been a staggering 5 months (just like you mentioned)..since the special dvds were released overseas.. how dare australia be that behind.. UTCM is a special edition??? didn't know that one is a special edition, but all 3 are being released on Feb 2, call your local record store and they should have all of them on that date, JB HiFi in Melbourne will have them available on that date, yay about time. WHY SHOULD I DO THAT, WHEN I CAN DO THIS | |
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Why wait for the distributors - just go to Amazon or something - even after the conversion to US dollars and postage costs I still got the dvds cheaper than I would pay retail in NZ.
Cinnamon Girl got shown quite a bit in NZ - probably because Keisha Castle-Hughes was in it... it even made the TV news in clips because of the "controversy"... Call her green and the winter cannot fade her | |
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