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PrintableEveryone sees the difference between religion and spirituality in various ways (some don't see a difference at all) but this is how I see it:
"Religion" contains rules and regulations that basically choke the FUN out of enjoying God while "spirituality" (or "relationship) allows you to hang out with God, without feeling like you've messed up because you didn't do "this or that" right. and btw, I cosign WonderU's posts. [Edited 1/10/05 9:10am] The Org is the short yellow bus of the Prince Internet fan community. | |
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Anji said: WonderU said: Religion is taught, your spirit is what it is from day one. You can twist my words however but it doesn't change that I believe that spirituality and religion are two different things.
WonderU, did eye suggest spirituality and religion as being 1 and the same? No.
The only time Prince has ever scared me is by trying to rap, other than that, I stand on very firm ground, it would take more than that thanks   However, it's still the case that regardless of how 1 feels about I Would Die 4 U, this does not change the fact that the song is based on religious scripture. A song which is religious n nature does not preclude it from being nterpreted n whichever way the listener wishes, b it spirituality or love or whatever. Isn't that the beauty of it all? Interestingly, it seems there "ain't no room 4 disagree" with the viewpoints of many nlightened "spiritual" 1s here. Ironic, no? love The ironic part is that you still think you have the one and only answer. It isn't that is no room for disagree but you seem more interested in making a point that is some sort of slam dunk on this. I feel differently about this subject than you do but the true beauty of it all that you mentioned would be some respect for views other than yours. Prince may be the purple Yoda, but Wendy & Lisa and Eric Leeds also sit on the Jedi Council. | |
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Man, this thread went way longer than I thought possible.
Sorry, I've been away. It seems some get it and some don't. You don't need religion once you're in touch with the spiritual nature. I CO-SIGN everything WonderU had to say. Lovesexy Funkateer | |
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And if you're eveil i'll forgive you by and by.
I always thought he said And if you leave I'll forgive you buttafly. Working up a purple sweat. | |
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Most poets, lyricists, writers (i.e. including Prince) will deliberately play with the ambiguity and possible multiple interpretations of words and phrases...if nothing else it creates discussions like this one.  Call her green and the winter cannot fade her | |
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I Would Die 4 U is about the Holy Spirit like a dove. "I'm not human, I am a dove, I am your concious, I am love, all I really need, is to know that you believe." And Jesus Christ dieing so our sins are forgiven. "If your evil all forgive U." Goodnight, sweet Prince. | |
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fluid said: I've listened to the lyrics and know Prince and religion. It leads ot me to think that Prince is talking about Christ.
Listen to every verse and you'll see the meaning. All of you make VERY valid points!! I think the only TRUE answer would come from P, himself. Now, my two cents.....I personally think that P's spiritual side has ALWAYS encompassed "his" religious beliefs. He grew up in a Christian household that taught him very traditional values of Christianity. JW, is a "religion" of Christian-based teachings. Nothing has changed, except his belief in how the story and its components differ from that in Bible teachings. What everyone is missing is this: Now that he is FREE, he can put out something as "controversial" as The Rainbow Children. This is HIS interpretation, coming from HIS mind. I'm 100% positive, that had he been able to(it wasnt possible due to WB and society in general in those days), his presentation of "religion" would have been as brazen and personal as his work is today. It isnt the difference of "spirituality" and "religion", as much as its the difference of "free" and "repressed". "If you wanna feel the FUNK....then you have to know the SOUL!!!"-----(Up and Down...just like a seesaw, Back and Forth...oh girl I'm fallin) | |
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LovesexyIsThe1 said: EverlastingNow said: Uh...religion and SPIRITUALITY are TWO different things, Lovesexyisthe1 is correct in his point.
Thank you. Christianity is a pretty broad description to consider his early body of work as "religious." In the 70's/80's, and early 90's... you wouldn't have known if he was Catholic, Lutheran, Protestant, Baptist, Pentacostal, Messianic Judaism, Presbyterian, Evangelical, Methodist... It was just cool that you could relate to him on that level. All that's changed now. Oops. My bad, excuse me for straying off topic.  Resume.
----- Nothing broad about Christianity in P music. As all Chritian denominations are the same they just have different procedures in their churchs. All Christians worship God not Allah or Buddah. _ [Edited 1/6/05 15:10pm] | |
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NPGman said: fluid said: I've listened to the lyrics and know Prince and religion. It leads ot me to think that Prince is talking about Christ.
Listen to every verse and you'll see the meaning. All of you make VERY valid points!! I think the only TRUE answer would come from P, himself. Now, my two cents.....I personally think that P's spiritual side has ALWAYS encompassed "his" religious beliefs. He grew up in a Christian household that taught him very traditional values of Christianity. JW, is a "religion" of Christian-based teachings. Nothing has changed, except his belief in how the story and its components differ from that in Bible teachings. What everyone is missing is this: Now that he is FREE, he can put out something as "controversial" as The Rainbow Children. This is HIS interpretation, coming from HIS mind. I'm 100% positive, that had he been able to(it wasnt possible due to WB and society in general in those days), his presentation of "religion" would have been as brazen and personal as his work is today. It isnt the difference of "spirituality" and "religion", as much as its the difference of "free" and "repressed". ----- Co-Sign | |
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LovesexyIsThe1 said: Man, this thread went way longer than I thought possible.
Sorry, I've been away. It seems some get it and some don't. You don't need religion once you're in touch with the spiritual nature. I CO-SIGN everything WonderU had to say. ----- On the commentary on the PR DVD. The director said it came from something P heard his Dad say to his mother when was growing up. | |
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SquarePeg said: jackflash said: Funny, based on his actions, I thought Prince actually meant: 'I would die for your pussy [fill in girl's name here].....and I would say any damn thing I needed to, just to get some!'
Prince was a pervert...but not THAT MUCH OF PERVERT!!! "listen here Marsha, i'm not syaing this to be nasty, but i sincerely wanna fuck the taste out of your mouth" he was a raving pervert "Prince don't hear Ravel when he wanna make love to his woman. He hears drums and shit." Miles Davis | |
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