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Thread started 01/01/05 4:02am

GeminiCalling

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I think Prince needs 2 hire a fan.......

OK, here's a little something I was thinking about, what do y'all think....

Prince should hire one of his fans 2 work with him- someone who he can turn 2 and ask questions about what he is doing (eg- is that song any good/should I release this on DVD, etc) That way he would get good, honest advice on things he is doing- advice which I'm sure he hasn't had in the past (Chaos & Disorder anyone?)
Imagine if Prince could ask U and U had authority to advise on certain releases, what would 2005 be like:

Jan. New album on major record Label, Prince hits the charts and gets on the radio/TV
Feb.. Releases an exclusive NPGMC internet album
Mar/April Tour 4 the new albums
May Major TV interview, broadcast worldwide
June DVD Release of recent tour
July NPGMC members get an exclusive 4 track EP available 4 download
Aug 3 DVD Box Set of D&P, Gold Experience & Nude tours
Sep More TV appearances
Oct "An Evening with Prince" airs on MTV. Prince plays live 2 an audience of 200 people. It is a very intimate gig with Prince playing mostly acoustic versions of old & new songs
Nov Prince re-records Purple Rain with Beyonce Knowles- The single is released thru a major record label
Dec Prince plays a new year concert which is also streamed live on NPGMC

[b][b]So...How would ur2005 if u had a little say in what he does? please let me know y'all smile
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Reply #1 posted 01/01/05 4:04am

Krystal666

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Yes! And I'm available Prince. I'll keep it real. But I need at least 50,000 a year with benifits and all expenses paid for travelling. biggrin
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Reply #2 posted 01/01/05 4:14am

sataninas

He has somebody!
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Reply #3 posted 01/01/05 9:34am

altavista

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He has somebody!
[Edited 1/1/05 4:36am]


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Reply #4 posted 01/01/05 9:40am

Lodger

hah!

GeminiCalling said:


Feb.. Releases an exclusive NPGMC internet album
Nov Prince re-records Purple Rain with Beyonce Knowles- The single is released thru a major record label


All I want him to do is a European tour of "Musicology"!!! pray
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Reply #5 posted 01/01/05 10:29am

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Hell no! The last thing Prince needs to do is hire a fan. Prince has fans with a wide variety of tastes that other fans don't like. If he were to hire a fan, we might end up with every album being like "The Truth".
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Reply #6 posted 01/01/05 10:32am

altavista

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hah!

GeminiCalling said:


Feb.. Releases an exclusive NPGMC internet album
Nov Prince re-records Purple Rain with Beyonce Knowles- The single is released thru a major record label


All I want him to do is a European tour of "Musicology"!!! pray



What's up with that. Have you heard a rationale for this? I thought the album did well there.
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Reply #7 posted 01/01/05 11:26am

HrdwcH

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Prince is married 2 a fan!!!
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Reply #8 posted 01/01/05 11:32am

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Prince is married 2 a fan!!!

Lol clapping hah! i would love to read her old posts ,where can u find them biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 01/01/05 11:55am

Universaluv

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Lol clapping hah! i would love to read her old posts ,where can u find them biggrin


She used to post on amp around 97-98. Search google groups with her name, you can probably still find some of her old posts. From what I remember they weren't all that fascinating.


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Reply #10 posted 01/01/05 12:13pm

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GeminiCalling said:

OK, here's a little something I was thinking about, what do y'all think....

Prince should hire one of his fans 2 work with him- someone who he can turn 2 and ask questions about what he is doing (eg- is that song any good/should I release this on DVD, etc) That way he would get good, honest advice on things he is doing- advice which I'm sure he hasn't had in the past (Chaos & Disorder anyone?)
Imagine if Prince could ask U and U had authority to advise on certain releases, what would 2005 be like:

Jan. New album on major record Label, Prince hits the charts and gets on the radio/TV
Feb.. Releases an exclusive NPGMC internet album
Mar/April Tour 4 the new albums
May Major TV interview, broadcast worldwide
June DVD Release of recent tour
July NPGMC members get an exclusive 4 track EP available 4 download
Aug 3 DVD Box Set of D&P, Gold Experience & Nude tours
Sep More TV appearances
Oct "An Evening with Prince" airs on MTV. Prince plays live 2 an audience of 200 people. It is a very intimate gig with Prince playing mostly acoustic versions of old & new songs
Nov Prince re-records Purple Rain with Beyonce Knowles- The single is released thru a major record labelDec Prince plays a new year concert which is also streamed live on NPGMC

[b][b]So...How would ur2005 if u had a little say in what he does? please let me know y'all smile


i'm feelin all ur ideas...except the red one..it was cool 4 the grammys...but naah lets leave purple rain as it is on the record.

the only thing i would do is tell him to make npgmc free! shit we aint all got credit cards and that type o thang.
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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Reply #11 posted 01/01/05 12:42pm

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Nov Prince re-records Purple Rain with Beyonce Knowles- The single is released thru a major record label


Oh please, it was bad enough watching her sorry ass Diana Ross meets Whitney Houston impression at the Grammy's! Whatever happens in the 05, please don't let it be that!! disbelief
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Reply #12 posted 01/01/05 12:47pm

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HrdwcH said:

Prince is married 2 a fan!!!


Exactly! Oh and yes, her posts aren't that great but here is the google search to them...

http://groups-beta.google...&ie=UTF-8&
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Reply #13 posted 01/01/05 4:27pm

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[Edited 1/2/05 17:20pm]
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Reply #14 posted 01/01/05 4:29pm

Rebbie4real

Uhm actually he does hire fans! Who do you think runs his website.


Only thing is, they are volunteers, not paid employees
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Reply #15 posted 01/01/05 5:25pm

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prince needs to fire his entire staff and let a third party business savy person (like herb alpert or quincy jones) select non yes men to manage his business..

secondly, dont listen to mani.....you are equals in your relationship but not in your careers...let her school you on the bible but dont let her dictate career choices..

thirdly, work with people who have the balls to tell you you are full of shit...ever notice how wendy and lisa were sent a demo of "in this bed i scream", contributed arrangments yet they never ended up on the final song? sure sure, the contributions could have sucked....however, something tells me that prince is really lacking from peer senergy....get him in a room with lisa, doctor fink, andre cymone and others who were there before "prince" blew up....have susan rogers engineer it and have them all put prince's ego in check....prince's album productions have been his own worst enemy of late....it kills what end up being beautiful and energized songs performed in concert....he needs to be surrounded by senergy to thrive....not so that he can steal or learn from these people...but so that he can be challenged and inspired.....

i thought it was telling that rhonda b sat her tired ass down the entire final show of the Musicology Tour (in san jose)...how is that gonna inspire you to record the next classic tune? what would it be called? "heffa on a couch"?


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Reply #16 posted 01/01/05 5:28pm

sosgemini

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Rebbie4real said:

Uhm actually he does hire fans! Who do you think runs his website.


Only thing is, they are volunteers, not paid employees



that needs to be stopped as well...thats a nightmare waiting to happen..look at what it did to the Bush Administration...
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Reply #17 posted 01/01/05 5:29pm

Rebbie4real

sosgemini said:

Rebbie4real said:

Uhm actually he does hire fans! Who do you think runs his website.


Only thing is, they are volunteers, not paid employees



that needs to be stopped as well...thats a nightmare waiting to happen..look at what it did to the Bush Administration...




lol
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Reply #18 posted 01/01/05 5:46pm

whodknee

sosgemini said:

prince needs to fire his entire staff and let a third party business savy person (like herb alpert or quincy jones) select non yes men to manage his business..

secondly, dont listen to mani.....you are equals in your relationship but not in your careers...let her school you on the bible but dont let her dictate career choices..

thirdly, work with people who have the balls to tell you you are full of shit...ever notice how wendy and lisa were sent a demo of "in this bed i scream", contributed arrangments yet they never ended up on the final song? sure sure, the contributions could have sucked....however, something tells me that prince is really lacking from peer senergy....get him in a room with lisa, doctor fink, andre cymone and others who were there before "prince" blew up....have susan rogers engineer it and have them all put prince's ego in check....prince's album productions have been his own worst enemy of late....it kills what end up being beautiful and energized songs performed in concert....he needs to be surrounded by senergy to thrive....not so that he can steal or learn from these people...but so that he can be challenged and inspired.....

[Edited 1/1/05 17:27pm]


Do you really think that group of has beens and never weres would actually come up with anything good or relevant?












Well, you're wrong. lol Besides, that's a matter of been there, done that.

I'd hate to have one of you guys be in Prince's ear. Hell, I wouldn't like the results if he were listening to me. Afterall, if I knew what I wanted to hear I'd make it myself. Besides, I'm fine with what he's been giving us. I'm not greedy (all of the time).
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Reply #19 posted 01/01/05 5:53pm

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whodknee said:

sosgemini said:

prince needs to fire his entire staff and let a third party business savy person (like herb alpert or quincy jones) select non yes men to manage his business..

secondly, dont listen to mani.....you are equals in your relationship but not in your careers...let her school you on the bible but dont let her dictate career choices..

thirdly, work with people who have the balls to tell you you are full of shit...ever notice how wendy and lisa were sent a demo of "in this bed i scream", contributed arrangments yet they never ended up on the final song? sure sure, the contributions could have sucked....however, something tells me that prince is really lacking from peer senergy....get him in a room with lisa, doctor fink, andre cymone and others who were there before "prince" blew up....have susan rogers engineer it and have them all put prince's ego in check....prince's album productions have been his own worst enemy of late....it kills what end up being beautiful and energized songs performed in concert....he needs to be surrounded by senergy to thrive....not so that he can steal or learn from these people...but so that he can be challenged and inspired.....

[Edited 1/1/05 17:27pm]


Do you really think that group of has beens and never weres would actually come up with anything good or relevant?












Well, you're wrong. lol Besides, that's a matter of been there, done that.

I'd hate to have one of you guys be in Prince's ear. Hell, I wouldn't like the results if he were listening to me. Afterall, if I knew what I wanted to hear I'd make it myself. Besides, I'm fine with what he's been giving us. I'm not greedy (all of the time).


actually, yes i do....alan leeds has been very upfront about what prince has been screwing up on over the years...wendy and lisa told prince , "pass", when he wanted to do a reunion with the three of them in purple rain get-up running through the audience.....

you see, where you are misguided is in thinking im interested in the musical output that would come out of a meeting of these minds... oh no, not at all...im more interested in the personal growth that would come from prince being told, "ehhh..no, thats shit". not that many people can do that...miles did it, and was the reason their collaberations will never see the light of day....but far to many of prince's current collaberators are too awestruck to tell him when his shit stinks...and its been stinking a lot...barring the masterful concert tour (which IMHO was great, but still a vegas revue....) he has yet to return to that awe inspiring "recorded" contribution that we all know is in him....

bjork, has created such a grounded personality that artist feel welcome to contribute and collaberate with her..as if its "their" work..with prince, after the first npg break-up..its pretty much been him him him...and his albums have lacked a certain vitality to make them classics....
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Reply #20 posted 01/01/05 6:36pm

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But some of his fans are wacko hmm so really the only way for this idea to work is for him to choose me 'cause y'all muthafuckas crazy neutral
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #21 posted 01/01/05 7:27pm

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sosgemini said

thirdly, work with people who have the balls to tell you you are full of shit...ever notice how wendy and lisa were sent a demo of "in this bed i scream", contributed arrangments yet they never ended up on the final song? sure sure, the contributions could have sucked....however, something tells me that prince is really lacking from peer senergy....get him in a room with lisa, doctor fink, andre cymone and others who were there before "prince" blew up....have susan rogers engineer it and have them all put prince's ego in check....prince's album productions have been his own worst enemy of late....it kills what end up being beautiful and energized songs performed in concert....he needs to be surrounded by senergy to thrive....not so that he can steal or learn from these people...but so that he can be challenged and inspired.....


I totally agree.
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Reply #22 posted 01/01/05 9:18pm

whodknee

sosgemini said:

whodknee said:[

you see, where you are misguided is in thinking im interested in the musical output that would come out of a meeting of these minds... oh no, not at all...im more interested in the personal growth that would come from prince being told, "ehhh..no, thats shit". not that many people can do that...miles did it, and was the reason their collaberations will never see the light of day....but far to many of prince's current collaberators are too awestruck to tell him when his shit stinks...and its been stinking a lot...barring the masterful concert tour (which IMHO was great, but still a vegas revue....) he has yet to return to that awe inspiring "recorded" contribution that we all know is in him....

bjork, has created such a grounded personality that artist feel welcome to contribute and collaberate with her..as if its "their" work..with prince, after the first npg break-up..its pretty much been him him him...and his albums have lacked a certain vitality to make them classics....


You do know that Fink isn't a real doctor don't you? If Prince's personal growth is truly what you're worried about and not the musical output, which I find hard to believe, Wendy, Lisa, and Andre Cymone aren't the answers. As for his albums not being classics and lacking vitality that's a matter of opinion. His only true undisputable classic is Purple Rain and it wasn't a collaborative effort. He had been progressing to that point and whether it was Wendy, Lisa, or me there with him it would have been great. The collaboration came on subsequent albums whose merits are arguably no better than The Rainbow Children and Musicology.

Your Bjork comparison doesn't really apply because she has always relied on production help. Sure it would be nice if Prince didn't make his bonehead moves but any artist must have the freedom to do as they wish. Creating those special moments is swing and miss.
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Reply #23 posted 01/01/05 9:56pm

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CalhounSq said:

But some of his fans are wacko hmm so really the only way for this idea to work is for him to choose me 'cause y'all muthafuckas crazy neutral

i know u would rep 4 us, so g'head...as long as u gon take me with u from time 2 time wink
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Reply #24 posted 01/01/05 10:45pm

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Prince is married 2 a fan!!!



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Reply #25 posted 01/02/05 12:34am

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darlinkia said:

CalhounSq said:

But some of his fans are wacko hmm so really the only way for this idea to work is for him to choose me 'cause y'all muthafuckas crazy neutral

i know u would rep 4 us, so g'head...as long as u gon take me with u from time 2 time wink


'kay woot!
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Reply #26 posted 01/02/05 1:19am

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Prince shouldn't hire a fan -there's too much variation in tastes in the fandom to make even a fraction of the people happy.

What Prince needs to do is have someone around him to tell him when he's being a dumbass.
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Reply #27 posted 01/02/05 4:12am

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sataninas said:

He has somebody!
[Edited 1/1/05 4:36am]


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I realy don't need to answer your question.
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Reply #28 posted 01/02/05 6:03am

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What Prince needs to do is have someone around him to tell him when he's being a dumbass.


If Mani is a Good Wife that's what she does!
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Reply #29 posted 01/02/05 7:42am

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whodknee said:

sosgemini said:

whodknee said:[

you see, where you are misguided is in thinking im interested in the musical output that would come out of a meeting of these minds... oh no, not at all...im more interested in the personal growth that would come from prince being told, "ehhh..no, thats shit". not that many people can do that...miles did it, and was the reason their collaberations will never see the light of day....but far to many of prince's current collaberators are too awestruck to tell him when his shit stinks...and its been stinking a lot...barring the masterful concert tour (which IMHO was great, but still a vegas revue....) he has yet to return to that awe inspiring "recorded" contribution that we all know is in him....

bjork, has created such a grounded personality that artist feel welcome to contribute and collaberate with her..as if its "their" work..with prince, after the first npg break-up..its pretty much been him him him...and his albums have lacked a certain vitality to make them classics....


You do know that Fink isn't a real doctor don't you? If Prince's personal growth is truly what you're worried about and not the musical output, which I find hard to believe, Wendy, Lisa, and Andre Cymone aren't the answers. As for his albums not being classics and lacking vitality that's a matter of opinion. His only true undisputable classic is Purple Rain and it wasn't a collaborative effort. He had been progressing to that point and whether it was Wendy, Lisa, or me there with him it would have been great. The collaboration came on subsequent albums whose merits are arguably no better than The Rainbow Children and Musicology.

Your Bjork comparison doesn't really apply because she has always relied on production help. Sure it would be nice if Prince didn't make his bonehead moves but any artist must have the freedom to do as they wish. Creating those special moments is swing and miss.


yes...and for the most part prince's album's have been misses for the last decade.lets not kid ourselves, Musicology is no where near the level of a Parade or Lovesexy.....A thread was created if Musicology would be on their top five list of albums for the year and the majority answered no..Its the touring that had rekindled the love for the lil man....

and to clarify my personal vs musical statement..what i meant was that prince is challenged personally when he is surrounded by peers that resulted in his best music (on wax).

and prince has always surrounded himself with musical talent....andre, morris, jesse when he was starting out.....did you know lisa now has admitted she collaberated in writing a good portion of the first two The Time albums? it makes me wonder if the whole "written, produced and arranged by" wasnt just a marketing gimmick and/or those others around who helped out were dumb enough not to demand more recongition for their contributions...

but anyways, who's arround now to say, "yo prince...those candy vocals on 'life o the party' are wack! why not throw ask qwen stefani and jill jones over to mix and balance it out?"
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