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Thread started 12/29/04 9:35pm

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Numerology

What is with Prince and the number 17?

Mountains - "17 mountains stood so high"
Partyman - "in the west, 17 horns blowin'"
17 Days - self explanatory
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Reply #1 posted 12/29/04 9:37pm

SammiJ

or the number 7...
im not too sure
prolly one of those things where its like he's scrambling for a number to use and that always seems to be the first to pop up in his mind?
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Reply #2 posted 12/29/04 9:49pm

bellababie

SammiJ said:

or the number 7...
im not too sure
prolly one of those things where its like he's scrambling for a number to use and that always seems to be the first to pop up in his mind?



7 is a religious thing
e.knuf
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Reply #3 posted 12/30/04 2:11am

Novabreaker

It's easier to make it fit the lyrics than, say, three-thousands-four-hundred-eighty-six-point-four. No seriously, I'm sure it's just part of his self-made mythology that he never got around to completely finish rationalizing either to himself or to his interested fans.
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Reply #4 posted 12/30/04 3:55am

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I'm not really sure but i was told that the number 7 is Jehovahs number. Dont quote me on that.
If ypu aint hip to the rare housequake, shut up already,damn.................
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Reply #5 posted 12/30/04 3:59am

Novabreaker

ILuVPurrrrrple said:

I'm not really sure but i was told that the number 7 is Jehovahs number. Dont quote me on that.


Already did. wink

Totally unnecessary. Couldn't resist. Bored.
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Reply #6 posted 12/30/04 5:57am

KoolEaze

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17


11




7




1




35( namechange / fifth cycle)


quite fascinating when you think about it
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Reply #7 posted 12/30/04 6:07am

Novabreaker

What the hell are you talking about? smile
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Reply #8 posted 12/30/04 6:15am

Mach

17 in the History
The cave of Lascaux, painted 17,000 years ago, was discovered by Marcel David, 17 years old.

One of the earliest mentioning of the number 17 was by the Egyptians. The Rhind papyrus from 1700BC contained the following 2/17 = 1/2 + 1/51 + 1/68 (which is FALSE! This is the only error in list of expansions of fractions of the form 2/n into sums of unit or Egyptian fractions.)

The mummy of King Tutankhamen was wrapped in 17 sheets.

The Parthenon is 17 columns long.

The Chinese had a bureaucratic constitution with 17 articles.

The Alhambra, a beautiful Moorish palace which inspired Escher, is composed of 17 kinds of mosaics (in fact, all of the possible ones).

Henri IV celebrated his wedding a second time on December 17, 1600, in Cathedral Saint-Jean in Lyon. His wife Marie de Médicis arrived with about 5000 Italians in 17 galleys.

Henry VIII's first wife had 17 children who died before their first birthday.

Nostradamus's quatrain 5,92:

Après le siège tenu dix-sept ans,
Cinq changeront en tel révolu terme:
Puis sera l'un esleu de mesme temps,
Qui des Romains ne sera trop conforme.

Shakespeare wrote 17 comedies (in the 17th century). Hamlet reigned for 17 years.

Beethoven wrote 17 string quartets. The first of Händel's Water Music took place on July 17, 1717 (the yellow pigs day!). Domenico Zipoli sailed for South-America in 1717 and landed in July 1717. Gossec wrote a symphony in 17 parts. Titchenko wrote a concerto for cello and 17 wind instruments. Senfl wrote a mass in 17 parts (given on October 2, 1994 at the Festival d'Ambronay). Mendelssohn's op. 54: 17 variations for piano. Bach had an orchester with 17 musicians during the Weimar period, when he wrote the concerto for 2 violins BWV 1043 (France-Musique, Bach et l'Europe, December 10, 1995). In 1895, St-Saens had 17 volumes of Rameau's work published (Radio Classique, December 13, 1995, 15:30). With one of his fiancées, Alessandro Scarlatti had 17 children including Domenico (France-Musique, January 26, 1996); Marin Marais had 17 children (France-Musique, L'éveil des muses, February 3, 1996). In 1575, Byrd and Tallis published the Cantiones Sacrae, dedicated to the Queen: 17 motets by Byrd and 17 by Tallis (from an article in rec.music.early, September 5, 1996). Telemann wrote 17 operas.

Fermat had been working as an agent for 17 years. Then he became a councillor at the Parliament of Toulouse, where he had been working for 17 years.

Gauss (born in 1777) constructed the famous 17-gon at the age of 18, having probably thought about it from the age of 17.

There is a famous passage in Plato's Theaetetus in which it is stated that Theodorus (Plato's teacher) proved the irrationality of sqrt(3), sqrt(5), ..., `taking all the separate cases up to the root of 17 square feet, at which point, for some reason, he stopped'. But we don't know the exact meaning of the Greek word (mu)(epsilon)(chi)(rho)(iota), translated as `up to' by Heath: either `up to but not including' or `up to and including'. (An Introduction to the Theory of Numbers, Hardy/Wright, section 4.5, pp 42-44)

Marconi used 17 patents of Tesla's (cf ST Magazine 75, p 54).

The French revolution took place in 1789 (8+9 = 17).

In Chatou (78400, France), a street is called rue des dix-sept (i.e. street of the seventeens). The extension of rue de Sahüne was given this name in December 1880. In 1878, the town council considered that property Fauchat was suitable to be a future town hall. But the heirs refused to sell the house separately, and the town council didn't want to (or couldn't) buy the whole domain. Mayor Bousson engaged its fellow citizens to form a civil company to buy all of it. This company was constituted by 17 people. It gave the town the house and some land while it sold the surplus by lots, making a profit given to the town. The names and the photos of these 17 are displayed on a board in the town hall. These are Mr. Albin, Barbier, Bardon, Baudry, Blin, Bousson, Coulon, Déjardin, Dijon, Ducellier, Huser, Lambert, Laubeuf, Marais, Sandel, Sarazin and Yvon. Source: tourist bureau of Chatou.

Symbols and Religion
Bible
The number 17 is used 13 times in the Bible: Genesis 7:11, 8:4, 37:2, 47:28; 1 Kings 14:21, 22:52; 2 Kings 13:1, 16:1; 1 Chronicles 24:15, 25:24; 2 Chronicles 12:13; Jeremiah 32:9; Judith 1:13. The word "seventeen" is used 17 times; the four additional references are: Judges 8:14; 1 Chronicles 7:11; Ezra 2:39; Nehemiah 7:42.

The 17th book is the shortest. Someone has spent 17 years looking for the exact middle point of the Bible. It is the psalm 117 which is the shortest. The longest one is the psalm 119 (divisible by 17).

2² + 3² + 5² + 7² + 11² + 13² + 17² = 666 (number of the Beast).

The Flood started on the 17th. Noah's Ark landed on the Mount Ararat (alt. 17,000 feet) on the 17th.



and if you want to read more ... go here

http://www.vinc17.org/d17_eng.html
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Reply #9 posted 12/30/04 6:32am

KoolEaze

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Novabreaker said:

What the hell are you talking about? smile

lol

lol lol Ehhh, just read Mach´s post, I couldn´t explain it any better ..
I was merely thinking about I Wish U Heaven ( you know, 11....7 ) and the One ( remember the ONE phase? ) 35 and 7 are obvious...and so on lol
[Edited 12/30/04 6:32am]
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #10 posted 01/01/05 5:13am

sataninas

WhamBamGlamSlam said:

What is with Prince and the number 17?

Mountains - "17 mountains stood so high"
Partyman - "in the west, 17 horns blowin'"
17 Days - self explanatory


Numerology: 17= 7+1=8:2=4:2=2:2=1

The number could be also 1, if I count like that.
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Reply #11 posted 01/01/05 6:46am

Lodger

And can anybody explain this:

"If I see 11 U can say it's 7"

Always wondered... lol lol lol
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Reply #12 posted 01/02/05 4:18am

sataninas

Lodger said:

And can anybody explain this:

"If I see 11 U can say it's 7"

Always wondered... lol lol lol


Probably the person he means could lieve in another time area or country.
[Edited 1/2/05 4:18am]
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Reply #13 posted 01/02/05 12:15pm

Lodger

sataninas said:

Lodger said:

And can anybody explain this:

"If I see 11 U can say it's 7"

Always wondered... lol lol lol


Probably the person he means could lieve in another time area or country.


lol I've never thought about it! lol
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Reply #14 posted 01/02/05 12:19pm

ABeautifulOne

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All I can say is that those numbers can't be divided.Maybe thats why he uses them
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Reply #15 posted 01/02/05 1:42pm

wasitgood4u

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ABeautifulOne said:

All I can say is that those numbers can't be divided.Maybe thats why he uses them


They're called primes!

Mach said:

Symbols and Religion
Bible
The number 17 is used 13 times in the Bible: Genesis 7:11, 8:4, 37:2, 47:28; 1 Kings 14:21, 22:52; 2 Kings 13:1, 16:1; 1 Chronicles 24:15, 25:24; 2 Chronicles 12:13; Jeremiah 32:9; Judith 1:13. The word "seventeen" is used 17 times; the four additional references are: Judges 8:14; 1 Chronicles 7:11; Ezra 2:39; Nehemiah 7:42.


What nonsense! These books were written in Hebrew, which doen't use numbers, only words! So either 17 is mentioned 17 times, or not! (and if this is nonsense, how much of the rest is...?)
"We've never been able to pull off a funk number"

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Reply #16 posted 01/02/05 1:50pm

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Novabreaker said:

It's easier to make it fit the lyrics than, say, three-thousands-four-hundred-eighty-six-point-four. No seriously, I'm sure it's just part of his self-made mythology that he never got around to completely finish rationalizing either to himself or to his interested fans.


Good explanation!
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Reply #17 posted 01/02/05 7:07pm

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wasitgood4u said:

ABeautifulOne said:

All I can say is that those numbers can't be divided.Maybe thats why he uses them


They're called primes!



I hate math but I wasn't aiming at primes
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Reply #18 posted 01/02/05 7:44pm

HalluRain

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Lodger said:

And can anybody explain this:

"If I see 11 U can say it's 7"

Always wondered... lol lol lol


He's saying that we may not agree on everything, see things differently, but I still wish you heaven -- wish the best for you.
I've gone to find myself. If I should return before I get back, keep me here.
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Reply #19 posted 01/02/05 11:01pm

Lodger

HalluRain said:

Lodger said:

And can anybody explain this:

"If I see 11 U can say it's 7"

Always wondered... lol lol lol


He's saying that we may not agree on everything, see things differently, but I still wish you heaven -- wish the best for you.


I think you're right!!! biggrin biggrin biggrin
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