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Thread started 01/03/05 11:31am

wallysafford

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are you sick of the New Power Generation yet?

i'm tired of the whole concept,sound,look etc...
was watching a bunch of old boots today on vhs and came to the conclusion that
the whole NPG thing bores me to death!
too many old people in the band,not rock-n-roll at all.
too many damn horns and horn solo's and horn scales and horns this and horns that!jeez!.
love horns in moderation but this is getting ridiculous,ok,prince,we know maceo can play,you don't have to give him a solo in every song!
i'm tired of all the lame shout-outs during concerts-"go rhonda","maceo blow ya horn"etc...if i'm lyin,i'm flyin!...you know this is aggravating. razz
i'm tired of prince trying to sell memberships to his music club in concert.
really,i could go on,basically-i am ready for something completely new!
get rid of everyone you ever had in your band and come out with a brand new band and a brand new concept.the NPG's days are numbered...it's old already,dude.
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Reply #1 posted 01/03/05 11:35am

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Been sick of it. I pretty much agree with everything you've listed WallyS. Only thing I really disagree with is getting rid of everyone currently in the band. I would like to see a new concept though and an end to the excessive "shout-outs", less horns etc.

As far as just names go, not going into the debate of which band is better, the NAME "The Revolution" is so much more kick ass than "The New Power Generation."
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Reply #2 posted 01/03/05 11:36am

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wallysafford said:

i'm tired of the whole concept,sound,look etc...
was watching a bunch of old boots today on vhs and came to the conclusion that
the whole NPG thing bores me to death!
too many old people in the band,not rock-n-roll at all.
too many damn horns and horn solo's and horn scales and horns this and horns that!jeez!.
love horns in moderation but this is getting ridiculous,ok,prince,we know maceo can play,you don't have to give him a solo in every song!
i'm tired of all the lame shout-outs during concerts-"go rhonda","maceo blow ya horn"etc...if i'm lyin,i'm flyin!...you know this is aggravating. razz
i'm tired of prince trying to sell memberships to his music club in concert.
really,i could go on,basically-i am ready for something completely new!
get rid of everyone you ever had in your band and come out with a brand new band and a brand new concept.the NPG's days are numbered...it's old already,dude.


The npg 2002 was the best band he ever played with

The only thing I'll give you is I wish he'd stop the sales pitches
Now I'm older than movies, Now I'm wiser than dreams, And I know who's there
When silhouettes fall
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Reply #3 posted 01/03/05 11:36am

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too many damn horns and horn solo's and horn scales and horns this and horns that!jeez!.
love horns in moderation but this is getting ridiculous,ok,prince,we know maceo can play,you don't have to give him a solo in every song!
i'm tired of all the lame shout-outs during concerts-"go rhonda","maceo blow ya horn"etc...if i'm lyin,i'm flyin!...you know this is aggravating. razz

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Reply #4 posted 01/03/05 11:40am

wallysafford

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paintsprayer said:

wallysafford said:

i'm tired of the whole concept,sound,look etc...
was watching a bunch of old boots today on vhs and came to the conclusion that
the whole NPG thing bores me to death!
too many old people in the band,not rock-n-roll at all.
too many damn horns and horn solo's and horn scales and horns this and horns that!jeez!.
love horns in moderation but this is getting ridiculous,ok,prince,we know maceo can play,you don't have to give him a solo in every song!
i'm tired of all the lame shout-outs during concerts-"go rhonda","maceo blow ya horn"etc...if i'm lyin,i'm flyin!...you know this is aggravating. razz
i'm tired of prince trying to sell memberships to his music club in concert.
really,i could go on,basically-i am ready for something completely new!
get rid of everyone you ever had in your band and come out with a brand new band and a brand new concept.the NPG's days are numbered...it's old already,dude.


The npg 2002 was the best band he ever played with

The only thing I'll give you is I wish he'd stop the sales pitches

not debating which of Princes bands were the best here-just saying that in my humble opinion,the whole NPG thing is waaaay played out...
in concert prince seems more like a background player when he is with this band.
he gives everyone too much solo time and he retreats either to the sidelines or offstage completely while we get a 16 minute "maceo blow ya horn" solo.my ears hurt...
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Reply #5 posted 01/03/05 11:44am

MIGUELGOMEZ

Please bring back the synth, funky music. I don't care about the horns, I love the horns. But please make it FUNKY!!!!! Nothing has made me make that funky-something-smells-really-bad (in a good way) face in a long time. You know the face I'm talking about. When one of his songs is sooo funky that you just can't help it.


Geez.....

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Reply #6 posted 01/03/05 11:49am

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Reply #7 posted 01/03/05 11:49am

wallysafford

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the current line up is very good at rehashing the same jazz licks that we all heard an abundance of on albums like"the vault"etc..but,when it comes to being nasty-this current line up is anything but!
way too sterile.
i never thought i would ever say that.lol."prince is too sterile"...seems funny.
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Reply #8 posted 01/03/05 11:51am

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Bored Prince Fans Unite!
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Reply #9 posted 01/03/05 11:57am

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wallysafford said:

Bored Prince Fans Unite!

say whatcha want, but when push comes to shove you'll still tune in, regardless of prince keepin his current band name/modus operandi. no need to complain about something you still keep tabs on. if you don't like it, don't pay heed to it.
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Reply #10 posted 01/03/05 11:58am

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sorry, charlie...if ya didn't witness the bands of his glory days, I'm afraid you never will...lol

just kidding biggrin
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Reply #11 posted 01/03/05 11:59am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

wallysafford said:

Bored Prince Fans Unite!

say whatcha want, but when push comes to shove you'll still tune in, regardless of prince keepin his current band name/modus operandi. no need to complain about something you still keep tabs on. if you don't like it, don't pay heed to it.

exactly. No need to complain about something that's past and gone...either learn to enjoy whatcha got or walk away...lol
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Reply #12 posted 01/03/05 12:18pm

Question

Shut up already DAMN!!!!


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Reply #13 posted 01/03/05 12:31pm

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love horns in moderation but this is getting ridiculous,ok,prince,we know maceo can play,you don't have to give him a solo in every song!


While yourself and others may find this annoying, it is easy to understand why Prince constantly gives Maceo oppurtunity to solo. It is because Maceo is a musical hero of Prince's. similarly, Prince is one of mine and If i was lucky enough to have MY musical hero in my band i'd be cueing his ass in like a mutha f*cka.
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Reply #14 posted 01/03/05 12:39pm

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PRNelson said:

love horns in moderation but this is getting ridiculous,ok,prince,we know maceo can play,you don't have to give him a solo in every song!


While yourself and others may find this annoying, it is easy to understand why Prince constantly gives Maceo oppurtunity to solo. It is because Maceo is a musical hero of Prince's. similarly, Prince is one of mine and If i was lucky enough to have MY musical hero in my band i'd be cueing his ass in like a mutha f*cka.

yep. same thing with larry graham.
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Reply #15 posted 01/03/05 12:45pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

PRNelson said:



While yourself and others may find this annoying, it is easy to understand why Prince constantly gives Maceo oppurtunity to solo. It is because Maceo is a musical hero of Prince's. similarly, Prince is one of mine and If i was lucky enough to have MY musical hero in my band i'd be cueing his ass in like a mutha f*cka.

yep. same thing with larry graham.


Maybe it's not a good thing for him to have his heroes in his band. I'm feeling Prince needs to have younger, hungry musicians in his band.
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Reply #16 posted 01/03/05 12:47pm

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Marrk said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


yep. same thing with larry graham.


Maybe it's not a good thing for him to have his heroes in his band. I'm feeling Prince needs to have younger, hungry musicians in his band.



Not good for who? Its Prince's band.
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Reply #17 posted 01/03/05 12:51pm

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PRNelson said:

Marrk said:



Maybe it's not a good thing for him to have his heroes in his band. I'm feeling Prince needs to have younger, hungry musicians in his band.



Not good for who? Its Prince's band.


falloff This is so right on it just made me laugh. thumbs up!
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Reply #18 posted 01/03/05 1:03pm

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PRNelson said:

love horns in moderation but this is getting ridiculous,ok,prince,we know maceo can play,you don't have to give him a solo in every song!


While yourself and others may find this annoying, it is easy to understand why Prince constantly gives Maceo oppurtunity to solo. It is because Maceo is a musical hero of Prince's. similarly, Prince is one of mine and If i was lucky enough to have MY musical hero in my band i'd be cueing his ass in like a mutha f*cka.


But when does a wise performer draw the line at how much his own personal musical hero/s hog the spotlight at a concert/show that is supposed to be his show..a show whereat fans paid their hardearned money to see HIM perform? At some point I would think it might be a good idea to realize that your own fans might get a bit tired of watching you give the stage over so often to someone else, and maybe back off a bit on that. Prince could arrange to have plenty of other opportunities to play with his musical heroes at other times besides his own shows - privately, or maybe show up at THEIR concerts.

I'm all for having Prince or whoever else get their own personal musical heros or influences up on stage with them but, after awhile (and a lot of repeated long, drawn out solos and whatnot), and especially if I'm not a huge, avid fan of that hero or influence, it DOES get old and a bit irritating. I go to a Prince concert to see Prince perform...not someone else.

But, like Handclaps said - I'll still be around no matter what or who Prince has in his band(s), and it's Prince's show to do with what he wants and in the end what I think don't make much difference and I'm just running my mouth.
[Edited 1/3/05 13:04pm]
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Reply #19 posted 01/03/05 1:16pm

Luv4oneanotha

the band paints the canvas of the moderator

don't blame the band, Blame Prince!

the current musicians he's afilliated with are quite possibly the best

Dare i say better then the Revolution?
maybe i still have a soft spot for Dr. Fink

But i digress

Bands are flexable to what the creator wants to do

If Prince really wanted to play Rock...

he wouldn't have to chnage his band to do so...

and BTW did it ever cross your midn that Prince Is Mature
and likes a mature atmosphere
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Reply #20 posted 01/03/05 1:25pm

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SnowQueen said:

PRNelson said:



While yourself and others may find this annoying, it is easy to understand why Prince constantly gives Maceo oppurtunity to solo. It is because Maceo is a musical hero of Prince's. similarly, Prince is one of mine and If i was lucky enough to have MY musical hero in my band i'd be cueing his ass in like a mutha f*cka.


But when does a wise performer draw the line at how much his own personal musical hero/s hog the spotlight at a concert/show that is supposed to be his show..a show whereat fans paid their hardearned money to see HIM perform? At some point I would think it might be a good idea to realize that your own fans might get a bit tired of watching you give the stage over so often to someone else, and maybe back off a bit on that. Prince could arrange to have plenty of other opportunities to play with his musical heroes at other times besides his own shows - privately, or maybe show up at THEIR concerts.

I'm all for having Prince or whoever else get their own personal musical heros or influences up on stage with them but, after awhile (and a lot of repeated long, drawn out solos and whatnot), and especially if I'm not a huge, avid fan of that hero or influence, it DOES get old and a bit irritating. I go to a Prince concert to see Prince perform...not someone else.

But, like Handclaps said - I'll still be around no matter what or who Prince has in his band(s), and it's Prince's show to do with what he wants and in the end what I think don't make much difference and I'm just running my mouth.
[Edited 1/3/05 13:04pm]

excellent points here. nod

it's almost as if Prince is "making up" for not giving the unheard of hungry musicians in prior bands (ie the Revolution) a chance to shine live and solo and stuff...so he's doing it now, or something...shrug
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Reply #21 posted 01/03/05 1:26pm

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SnowQueen said:

PRNelson said:



While yourself and others may find this annoying, it is easy to understand why Prince constantly gives Maceo oppurtunity to solo. It is because Maceo is a musical hero of Prince's. similarly, Prince is one of mine and If i was lucky enough to have MY musical hero in my band i'd be cueing his ass in like a mutha f*cka.


But when does a wise performer draw the line at how much his own personal musical hero/s hog the spotlight at a concert/show that is supposed to be his show..a show whereat fans paid their hardearned money to see HIM perform? At some point I would think it might be a good idea to realize that your own fans might get a bit tired of watching you give the stage over so often to someone else, and maybe back off a bit on that. Prince could arrange to have plenty of other opportunities to play with his musical heroes at other times besides his own shows - privately, or maybe show up at THEIR concerts.

I'm all for having Prince or whoever else get their own personal musical heros or influences up on stage with them but, after awhile (and a lot of repeated long, drawn out solos and whatnot), and especially if I'm not a huge, avid fan of that hero or influence, it DOES get old and a bit irritating. I go to a Prince concert to see Prince perform...not someone else.

But, like Handclaps said - I'll still be around no matter what or who Prince has in his band(s), and it's Prince's show to do with what he wants and in the end what I think don't make much difference and I'm just running my mouth.
[Edited 1/3/05 13:04pm]

maybe he should just play his hits over and over so people get their moneys worth
Now I'm older than movies, Now I'm wiser than dreams, And I know who's there
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Reply #22 posted 01/03/05 1:27pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

wallysafford said:

Bored Prince Fans Unite!

say whatcha want, but when push comes to shove you'll still tune in, regardless of prince keepin his current band name/modus operandi. no need to complain about something you still keep tabs on. if you don't like it, don't pay heed to it.

let me set u straight real quick since you are alway's so quick to jump in with some sarcasm.
i WAS there when he played with ALL of his bands,from the dirty mind line-up until now,so,my critique is pretyy well educated.ive been to about 100 prince shows since 1981 and all i am saying is that he never kept a band for as long as he has kept the NPG,just a little bored with that sound,look etc...is that wrong?are we allowed to vent what is on our minds here without persecution from you everytime?
as far as keeping tabs on his newer stuff,well you would be wrong.i don't pay half as much attention to what prince is doing now as i did,let's say,in 1987.
his new shit is geared toward people his age and older.hence the double-breasted suits,the Maceo,the cleaned up lyrics-BORING.
that is MY opinion and i am damn sure sticking to it.
just curious-when did you first get into prince,cuz you seem to think that
your opinion is the holy grail?ive been spending loot on this dude from the first album in april of 1978,i am also an accomplished musician so i can tell when another musician is going through the motions.
like i said-the NPG is boring.
tear it up,start anew...put that in your bikini underware and smoke it.
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Reply #23 posted 01/03/05 1:28pm

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paintsprayer said:

maybe he should just play his hits over and over so people get their moneys worth

brotha's pretty much been doin that for the past couple tours.
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Reply #24 posted 01/03/05 1:34pm

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by the way,how do you know what i will keep tabs on?
ya know how many copies of musicolgy i bought?=none
emancipation=still havn't heard the majority of it
new power soul=nope,never got it
diamonds and pearls=listened once on cassette,heard tony m,gave tape away next day.
chaos and disorder=never bought it



so,that is how much i am "keeping tabs" on his current output.
i do know that if i hear changed lyric's to songs that i love one more time,i am selling all of my collection and moving on...
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Reply #25 posted 01/03/05 1:35pm

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im sick of it..the name itself is stale and boring...
Space for sale...
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Reply #26 posted 01/03/05 1:36pm

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i had a feeling when i started this thread that a certain person would chime in to stir up some drama.
i was correct,as usual.
sad sad.
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Reply #27 posted 01/03/05 1:37pm

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sosgemini said:

im sick of it..the name itself is stale and boring...

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Reply #28 posted 01/03/05 1:38pm

SnowQueen

paintsprayer said:

SnowQueen said:



But when does a wise performer draw the line at how much his own personal musical hero/s hog the spotlight at a concert/show that is supposed to be his show..a show whereat fans paid their hardearned money to see HIM perform? At some point I would think it might be a good idea to realize that your own fans might get a bit tired of watching you give the stage over so often to someone else, and maybe back off a bit on that. Prince could arrange to have plenty of other opportunities to play with his musical heroes at other times besides his own shows - privately, or maybe show up at THEIR concerts.

I'm all for having Prince or whoever else get their own personal musical heros or influences up on stage with them but, after awhile (and a lot of repeated long, drawn out solos and whatnot), and especially if I'm not a huge, avid fan of that hero or influence, it DOES get old and a bit irritating. I go to a Prince concert to see Prince perform...not someone else.

But, like Handclaps said - I'll still be around no matter what or who Prince has in his band(s), and it's Prince's show to do with what he wants and in the end what I think don't make much difference and I'm just running my mouth.
[Edited 1/3/05 13:04pm]

maybe he should just play his hits over and over so people get their moneys worth


That's not what I said AT ALL, nor was it the point I was trying to make. rolleyes

Take a reading comprehension class.
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Reply #29 posted 01/03/05 1:39pm

OdysseyMiles

wallysafford said:

by the way,how do you know what i will keep tabs on?
ya know how many copies of musicolgy i bought?=none
emancipation=still havn't heard the majority of it
new power soul=nope,never got it
diamonds and pearls=listened once on cassette,heard tony m,gave tape away next day.
chaos and disorder=never bought it



so,that is how much i am "keeping tabs" on his current output.


It's also how much you've been missing out on, too.

wallysafford said:

i do know that if i hear changed lyric's to songs that i love one more time,i am selling all of my collection and moving on...


When you do that, holla at'cha boy!!! lol
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