Don't you think the way Prince treats women he is attracted to or girlfriends way differently than how he treats women he has no sexual intrest in. I read he really likes working with female enginners, video directors, ect.. and they all say their experiences with him are way different than what Carmen Electra, Apollonia, Anna Garcia,ect., have said.He seems to respect them more, not patronize them with stupid questions, and tell them what to wear/eat. He seems to be real with Rosie Gains, like she said he would just talk and open up to her and not try to control her thoughts and with Anna Garcia, for instance she said he would tell her to repress her emotions, and would play werid mind games with her and she said she felt like he was trying to turn her into a different person. Why is he so manipulative with women he is attracted to?

Krystal666 said:

It's a self-esteem complex. I'm the same, I must admit.

Novabreaker said:

couldnt have said it any better. u go man!

And if we are honest about it, if you treat women like they are part queen / part shit they will be most likely to become obsessed with you. That's the whole motive for the mind-fuck thing: to have them fall madly in love with you through providing confusion. It's just that this "strategy" is not a very good basis for a solid, mature relationship so those things will usually fall off even before they really start.

Better be a nice guy all the way. If the chick can't fucking appreciate it and go for some ill-behaving jackass instead because she can only be truly attracted to such men, so bloody hell that person doesn't deserve your attention.

Novabreaker said:

I just fell in love w/ you

yes, i think prince has that complex cuz he feels insecure of himself. i don't think women like be treat like shit, but one thing is certain i think we don't like men that are always insisting and doing easily what we want them to do, i think we like some character but manipulation NO.

I would say , yes. All men do this.


WOmen he has no sexual interest in, he's probably a big flirt.

WOmen he's dating, look no further than the lyrics on Bob George.

Novabreaker said:

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God dude. If more guys would be like you and admit this shit the world would be a better place for woman.

AsianBomb777 said:

Hit the nail on the head here. Prince don't flirt with the woman he truely wants, he plays hide and seek, truth or dare with them (so to speak) and in the end making them think/feel as they have won the big prize (him).
When in actuallity if you take a good look, before he gets hold of them the woman more so the ones he was close to publically they were all pretty "good" girls, UNTILL!?

Look out Mani

Prince does flirt with the woman HE KNOWs can't have him and this is only for his own ego, self esteem. This is Prince, there are just some things that will NEVER change about him.

SLOW DOWN!

I think this is something women need to admit to.

laurarichardson said:

All I know is I DON"t LIKE MIND GAMES and I'm Gone when ya Play GAMES!... Too MANY Men that are Honest and UPFRONT. GAME PLAYERS are STUPID! PRINCE says he NEVER HIT a WOMAN in DAY'S OF WILD. If he's a WOMANIZER well then I Suppose he DOESN'T Care if his Women Date also when he's Gone. What's Good For The Goose...But, I Secretely Suspect he's the JEALOUS TYPE who Doesn't Share his Women. I think when you are with him you are Treated Royally ,but leave and you are left to do Your Own Thing. I don't think he DWELLS on the PAST or his PAST LOVES. I think he finds a Newbie and Moves On.

Zelaira said:

ZEL!! where ya been baby? I missed your psychosis!!

laurarichardson said:

Guys can think just like this and still be complete assholes. I'm one of them. I can treat some people royally for all time but am unable to have much decency with others. My point is that you shouldn't be fooled by a guy's apparent sincerity. Trust a lower level of instint than that.

Zelaira said:

Do you truly believe that?

I bet there are a number of Prince exes who'd disagree with you. Susannah, for one. His cheating all over the place behind her back wasn't much 'royal treatment' if you ask me, nor was his dumping her via the telephone and ordering her out of his/their house.

Very good point! I so agree.

I wouldn't want Prince to flirt with me then!

He is so obviously a controller.. Just look at the young girls he has dated, married..

Beautiful,they dress, speak, and act like he commands them to..

Prince is a misogynist, some say. Look at Purple Rain, look at what he makes his women wear. They conclude the man's a woman-hater, or at least a woman-exploiter. Let his actions speak for him, Prince has given given more opportunities to women then any other. Women who have benefited from Prince's open-minded attitude.

Basically, once the penis takes a controlling interest, it's all downhill from there.

LQ

Zelaira said:

My teacher has arrived.

As far as any of us have been able to see, in the simplest terms, Prince is an asshole towards women he's sexually interested in. He seems to like to be able to control his women -how they talk, what they wear, what they eat, what they say, do and think. He seems to have more respect for women he's not interested in.

If I was Mayte, Mani, Susannah, or any one of his women and he tried to pull that shit, I'd be out of there so fast he'd be choking on the dust.

All I know is that I would never want to be in a relationship with P if given the opportunity. He seems like he is into playing mind games and that would totally piss me off, especially with the talking in riddles. That cryptic sh!t would get old real quick. I bet he is a darling though and treats his women royally, but piss him off and your ass is grass.I wouldn't be surprised if he goes days without talking to you if he is pissed at you. I might be reading too much into that 2 second clip where P gave Mayte the 'look' when she bopped him in the face with the flower, but he looked pissed, like he wanted to slap the taste out of her mouth.

Novabreaker said:

every man should read that.

Do uou guys think he treats his men this way when it comes to his undercover lovers?

MPLSRAINBOW said:

Yes. Sort of. When it's a feminine man, things fall apart.
Morris doesn't much talk about him anymore.
Jerome severed ties.
Mr Hayes and Tommy have gone their seperate ways.


However, the butch types seem to keep him centered.
Larry Graham seems to be showing Prince who his daddy is.

AsianBomb777 said:

great point? i wish he would only show his bi-sexual dide would be more public

MPLSRAINBOW said:

MPLSRAINBOW said:

:shock:

It's interesting to note that this all got started when his mother introduced him to seriously sexually explicit books and mags when he was like 12 or 13 yrs old. (He said this in the Chris Rock interview. It is also mentioned by Susan Rogers, his former sound engineer, in the BBC interview.)

His sexual proclivities were definitely piqued. He was bringing girls in and out of the house like a bitch in heat. That is one of the reason's why his dad put him out. It was crazy.

As a result of his quick-start juggling women, I think he's perfected this mind trip stuff. I can't think of anybody out there who so explicitly and quickly is able to turn the people he's involved with into clones of his style.

But remember the lyric of Strange Relationship, "I didn't like the way you were, so I had to make you mine." I think that pretty much sums it up. Maybe the women he's been with didn't like the way they were either.

Altavista

Why would his mother do such a thing is my question.
I thought they had a close relationship. I would think his (Prince) relationships with his womans would be somewhat reflected off of his relationship with his own mother. Isn't it this way for most men anyway?





AltaVista, interesting post

Novabreaker said:

Yep, only a man like this could write "Strange Relationship" which is poignant in its degrading, abusive truth.


"I guess u know me well, I don’t like winter
But I seem 2 get a kick out of doing u cold
Oh, what the hell, u always surrender
What’s this strange relationship that we hold on 2?
Baby I just can’t stand 2 see u happy
More than that I hate 2 see u sad
Honey if u left me I just might do something rash
What’s this strange relationship? (ship, ship, ship)

I came and took your love, I took your body
I took all the self respect u ever had
I took u 4 a ride and baby I’m sorry
The more u love me sugar, the more it makes me mad


Isn’t it a shame this ain’t a movie
Then u could rewrite my every line
I’ll take all the blame, yo baby I’m sorry
But I didn’t like the way u where, so I had 2 make u mine !!!!


There are so MANY manipulative men like this, I'm sure every girl has had at least one before she wised up.

Great song by the way. It's hard to nail a truth, and Prince describes this twisted psychosis before than anyone else. Superb