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Thread started 12/15/04 8:05pm

paisley4me

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Prince's real rival

So who is Prince's real rival. Not Micheal Jackson for obvious reasons. D'Angelo, Maxwell, Musiq, Andre 3000, etc are good but they're just clones.

The only real rivals I can think of both have flaws. First, Beck. Original, funky, comes from right field, catchy BUT too industrial and harsh sounding sometimes, kinda jarring. I like him though. Never know what to expect.

The one I was concerned about back in 1987 was Terrence Trent D'Arby (Sananda Maitreya). Oh my god that guy is good! I'd even argue he's a better singer and at least as good a songwriter. His downfall - he can't play guitar, at least not like Prince.
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Reply #1 posted 12/15/04 8:08pm

AsianBomb777

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Reply #2 posted 12/15/04 8:11pm

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AsianBomb777 said:

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the glamour shot is back.
BEST. MULLET. EVER.
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Reply #3 posted 12/15/04 8:30pm

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...everytime I see that picture I hear that "Im too Sexy" song
thumb though my head eek


As for Prince's rival? I don't really think he has one confused

whose tryin ta compete?
If you will, so will I
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Reply #4 posted 12/15/04 9:39pm

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paisley4me said:

So who is Prince's real rival. Not Micheal Jackson for obvious reasons. D'Angelo, Maxwell, Musiq, Andre 3000, etc are good but they're just clones.

The only real rivals I can think of both have flaws. First, Beck. Original, funky, comes from right field, catchy BUT too industrial and harsh sounding sometimes, kinda jarring. I like him though. Never know what to expect.

The one I was concerned about back in 1987 was Terrence Trent D'Arby (Sananda Maitreya). Oh my god that guy is good! I'd even argue he's a better singer and at least as good a songwriter. His downfall - he can't play guitar, at least not like Prince.


You are nowhere near close. Prince's rival for years was Rick James. No one else could ever touch Prince and probably never will.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #5 posted 12/15/04 9:56pm

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Who else on the scene plays as many instruments as him, writes their own songs, and entertains the way he does?
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Reply #6 posted 12/15/04 11:18pm

Anxiety

prince's biggest rival is himself. i'm not just trying to be artsy-fartsy...i believe it's true.
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Reply #7 posted 12/16/04 1:07am

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Tai Tanawut gives him a Prince a run for his money. Well that's what I reckon, anyway smile

http://www.ethaimusic.com...es/tai.php
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Reply #8 posted 12/16/04 1:39am

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Anxiety said:

prince's biggest rival is himself. i'm not just trying to be artsy-fartsy...i believe it's true.


nod

He's got a helluvah history to top.

Not that he has to, or wants to - but his back-catalogue (for me) is his biggest rival.
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Reply #9 posted 12/16/04 4:28am

AsianBomb777

sabaisabai said:

Tai Tanawut gives him a Prince a run for his money. Well that's what I reckon, anyway smile

http://www.ethaimusic.com...es/tai.php



Thai people ROck yall.



We do.
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Reply #10 posted 12/16/04 4:31am

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his biggest rival is oprah cuz she tries stuff like him 4 xample:she gave out cars on her show while he gave out his cd @ his shows point proveon lol biggrin
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Reply #11 posted 12/16/04 4:34am

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Trent darby was at first a prince clone! Right down to the "moves" on the mic in "wishing well" video.
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Reply #12 posted 12/16/04 4:39am

AsianBomb777

ABeautifulOne said:

his biggest rival is oprah cuz she tries stuff like him 4 xample:she gave out cars on her show while he gave out his cd @ his shows point proveon lol biggrin



I wonder if she can do the splits like him.

U know--bounce off the floor and back up again wiggling her ass while she does it.

Come to think of it, I wonder if she has any buttless yellow jump suits.
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Reply #13 posted 12/16/04 5:21am

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AsianBomb777 said:

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Who in the hell is this guy? (I use that term loosely). I've been seeing his face pop up on web sites for years now.
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Reply #14 posted 12/16/04 5:42am

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Beck and Terence Trent D'Arby are his real rivals. David Bowie in a way as well.

I wouldn't call any of the above names "Prince clones" though. That just isn't true.
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Reply #15 posted 12/16/04 11:49am

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Beck & Terence are obviously influenced by Prince, but who isn't?

They are both very talented and different from Prince. I'd like to see Prince do Sea Change.

Prince has no real rivals, but folks like Beck, D'Angelo, Andre 3000, Justin Timberlake and a whole slew of horrible entertainers are stealing his spotlight.
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Reply #16 posted 12/16/04 12:15pm

Anxiety

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They are both very talented and different from Prince. I'd like to see Prince do Sea Change.


well, it could be argued that prince DID do his version of "sea change"...one nite alone (the piano album) has much the same mood, only with prince's sensibilities.
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Reply #17 posted 12/16/04 1:14pm

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why does an artist HAVE to have a rival? from what i've seen Prince isn't quite like anyone else.

what he has over artists like MJ and Madonna is 99% of his work is his own. No 'hot' producers for Prince, he never felt the need to keep up with trends, he should be very proud of himself for always doing his own thing.

I might expand on this in a new thread, when i'm not stoned

nevermind, http://www.prince.org/msg/7/126200
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Anxiety said:

andyman91 said:

They are both very talented and different from Prince. I'd like to see Prince do Sea Change.


well, it could be argued that prince DID do his version of "sea change"...one nite alone (the piano album) has much the same mood, only with prince's sensibilities.


sadly I haven't heard it
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Reply #19 posted 12/16/04 2:57pm

AsianBomb777

Tom said:

AsianBomb777 said:

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Who in the hell is this guy? (I use that term loosely). I've been seeing his face pop up on web sites for years now.



If U have to ask. rolleyes
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Reply #20 posted 12/16/04 3:57pm

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AsianBomb777 said:

ABeautifulOne said:

his biggest rival is oprah cuz she tries stuff like him 4 xample:she gave out cars on her show while he gave out his cd @ his shows point proveon lol biggrin



I wonder if she can do the splits like him.

U know--bounce off the floor and back up again wiggling her ass while she does it.

Come to think of it, I wonder if she has any buttless yellow jump suits.



hell lets see if she comes on Cribs with some in her closet
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Reply #21 posted 12/16/04 4:28pm

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BECK? Are U KIDING? BECK? NO WAY! PRINCE CAN OUT FUNK (AND ROCK) BECK ANY DAY!
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #22 posted 12/16/04 4:46pm

realm

David Bowie! Both P and Bowie are greats, I would not say one is better than the other. I love the Prince and Bowie stories to date and I can find some simularities in the music, the highs the lows, the prince years were much like some of the 80s traps Bowie got caught up in. Bowie got caught up in commercial music(FAME!) for a time then dumped that like when Prince recorded TRC. Listen to songs from Bowie like "Beauty and the Beast" and you'll hear hints of what would be. The last few years from Prince and Bowie were awesome!
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Reply #23 posted 12/16/04 4:57pm

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realm said:

David Bowie! Both P and Bowie are greats, I would not say one is better than the other. I love the Prince and Bowie stories to date and I can find some simularities in the music, the highs the lows, the prince years were much like some of the 80s traps Bowie got caught up in. Bowie got caught up in commercial music(FAME!) for a time then dumped that like when Prince recorded TRC. Listen to songs from Bowie like "Beauty and the Beast" and you'll hear hints of what would be. The last few years from Prince and Bowie were awesome!

Bowie is one of Prince's Influences. The Glam Rock androgyny. Young Americans (1975) is Bowie's Soul album. Its funky (Fame)! The changes of looks from Ziggy Stardust (1972), Aladdin Sane (1973), The Thin White Duke (1975-77).
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #24 posted 12/16/04 5:37pm

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Morris Day.



Seriously???? Jimmy and Terry.
"New Power slide...."
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Reply #25 posted 12/16/04 5:50pm

1212121

paisley4me said:

The one I was concerned about back in 1987 was Terrence Trent D'Arby (Sananda Maitreya). Oh my god that guy is good! I'd even argue he's a better singer and at least as good a songwriter. His downfall - he can't play guitar, at least not like Prince.


Man,,,,, if one more person says Terrence Trent D'Arby in the same breath as
Prince again Im gonna SCREAM!!!!!pissed

That sorry nigglet couldn't carry Prince's jock.

Prince owns Terrible Trash Dinggleberry,,er,,ah,,,I mean Terrence Trent D'Arby
every day of the week.pimp2

Prince has no rival but the devil.evil death

BAM!!!
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Reply #26 posted 12/16/04 6:44pm

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Andre 3000.
Ooh, little darlin' if you're
free 4 a couple of hours (Free 4 a couple of hours)
If U ain't busy 4 the next 7 years (Next 7 years)
Say, let's pretend we're married and go all night
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Reply #27 posted 12/16/04 11:56pm

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BECK KICKS ASS !!!
not as funky or original...or as SUPERBAD !!!!! as prince...
but VERY VERY VERY clever and interesting and compelling as an artist.....
and a MONSTER in the studio....funny as hell too in a very "inside" joke kinda way...he's 4 people with intelligence.....and humor..
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Reply #28 posted 12/17/04 12:03am

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Marrk said:

why does an artist HAVE to have a rival? from what i've seen Prince isn't quite like anyone else.

what he has over artists like MJ and Madonna is 99% of his work is his own. No 'hot' producers for Prince, he never felt the need to keep up with trends, he should be very proud of himself for always doing his own thing.

I might expand on this in a new thread, when i'm not stoned

nevermind, http://www.prince.org/msg/7/126200
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That's what I love about Prince is the fact that he does it all himself without the help of the current "hot" producers.

Every artist should have a rival though. I loved it when Rick James and Prince were rivals. Rick kept him on his toes and at his hardest BEST. There wasn't any jazz and classical in Prince's music then, Prince didn't have a pop audience to back him up so Rick would have spit him out! lol
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Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #29 posted 12/17/04 12:16am

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1212121 said:

paisley4me said:

The one I was concerned about back in 1987 was Terrence Trent D'Arby (Sananda Maitreya). Oh my god that guy is good! I'd even argue he's a better singer and at least as good a songwriter. His downfall - he can't play guitar, at least not like Prince.


Man,,,,, if one more person says Terrence Trent D'Arby in the same breath as
Prince again Im gonna SCREAM!!!!!pissed

That sorry nigglet couldn't carry Prince's jock.

Prince owns Terrible Trash Dinggleberry,,er,,ah,,,I mean Terrence Trent D'Arby
every day of the week.pimp2

Prince has know rival but the devil.evil death

BAM!!!
[Edited 12/16/04 18:09pm]


I'm sorry but anyone who is that vitriolic about TTD hasn't listened to his music. In every respect except for sheer prolificness, TTD is prince's equal or superior.

On the subject of rivals, I don't think Prince has any, at least not of his generation, for awhile it would've been Rick James but slick r.i.p. fucked up his life and his music hard. The only artists who I think have made bodies of work as good or better than Princes are all Prince's predecessors: The Beatles, Zappa, Bowie, James Brown, Sly, P-Funk, Jimi, Stevie, Miles Davis, Duke Ellington, Curtis Mayfield.
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