Now, this is true!

jacktheimprovident said:

Well said, I couldn't agree more . Sananda is extremely underrated as an artist.
Other artists that also come to mind are Beck and Andre 3000

TTD and Beck or even Bowie don't even come close to Prince..
I don't understand all you people that say TTD is that special!The guy truly started of as a Prince rip off!No,he's NOT a better singer,NOT a better musician,his dancing doesn't even come close and his songwriting is by far not as good as Prince is (though Prince really has to do something about the level of his songwriting nowadays 'cuz imo the guy is losing it...)

jkj10 said:

That's only your opinion (and of course you are entitled to it )
IMO however Sananda is by far the better singer (both on record and live on stage, there is just no comparision at all), he is the better songwriter as well and also his lyrics are far superior to Prince's. Prince is the better musician, I agree with that, they both can dance and IMO they both are not the best actors . So they are both very talented, but I prefer Sananda as an overall artist .

thesexofit said:

I'm not sure what exact "moves on the mic" you're referring to, but most of the moves on the mic I've ever seen Prince do were lifted straight off of James Brown. So, let's get the point of origin correct, now!

And I have to say:When TTD (or Sananda) makes as much albums as Prince did,and the quality of these albums will be over-all very high,I might consider him a contender...Right now,he doesn't even come close!..

jkj10 said:

And I have to say: I care for the quality of the music not the quantity and IMO Sananda has released at least as much quality music in his career as Prince has

TTD: Better singer because of his vocal range. Can also singer louder and still stay in tune. As a musician, Prince wins hands down. As a songwriter, TTD is a rival because his music is as varied as Prince's and combines funk, rock and folk as well. However TTD's music comes out sounding nothing like Prince, which makes him a rival becuase he's playing the same game with equal or better results.

Beck: A rival because of his inventiveness in the studio and his willingness to take chances. A lot of Midnight Vultures sounded like Prince so Beck kinda showed his cards on that one. But like a true artist he'll probably never repeat that again. Willing to hit or miss.

Andre 3000?! Sorry, but not quite. His singing needs work and some of his songs are repetitive. A good rapper with good sensibility but he needs more time on the court.

David Bowie: Yeah, maybe. Just as ballsy. Can get boring. But also does a good job at mixing funk, soul and rock.

Anyone heard of World Party? It's basically Karl Wallinger playing all the instruments and doing all the writing. Sixties psychedelic with some funk thrown in. A serious contender.

Lenny Kravitz: More like Prince's best protege or replica of himself (with some proprietary guitar likes and dance moves edited out)

Serious said:

Name,let's say,6 TTD albums that are just as good as:
1999,PR,ATWIAD,Parade,Lovesexy,SOTT...
If you can,how come a looot of people don't know them??
Introducing the hardline...can't be in that list,so name the other ones...
I know we're talking personal opinions here,but I just don't get all these TTD lovers who say he is just as big in every way as Prince is!!
E.g.After PR came ATWIAD,now who can top a move like that?...(And still keep their audience's interest and continue to do so?..)
I'm not dissing TTD,but he doesn't even come near to our little man!(Sorry,I'm probably just looking for some discussions here,hahaha!!)

Honestly, I wish there was a new Prince. It would be so exciting to see a multi intrumentalist new guy who created innovative and good music. But all these guys (Lenny, D angelo, etc) are good, but not on the same level. I am still waiting

AsianBomb777 said:

http://www.thenoel.org/asianprince/

thesexofit said:

That would mean you consider Prince to be a James Brown clone?!!!

JB was doing those moves way before Prince released an album.
I don't see it that way. Prince was influenced by lots of artists before him, he made it his own. The same with Sananda, he always did his own thing. He never looked or sounded like Prince at all.

jkj10 said:

Like you say it's all very personal, but I disagree with the fact Introducing shouldn't be in the list. When you name PR you should also agree with ITATTTD.
Besides that album NFNF is definately on top of my favourite albums ever. SOD, Vibrator and WildCard are also great albums. They're all in my CD player very regularly. I can't say that of Most Prince albums.

Still I prefer Prince, Sananda does come close for me.

I don't think you can talk about rivals.
Every artist is influenced by others, nothing wrong with that.

Prince does his own thing, so do David Bowie, Sananda Maitreya, Beck and lots of others. They are all great artists, I just prefer one above the other. It's just a personal taste. For me Prince is number one but he feels the breath of David Bowie and Sananda Maitreya in his neck.

Like you say it's all very personal, but I disagree with the fact Introducing shouldn't be in the list. When you name PR you should also agree with ITATTTD.
Besides that album NFNF is definately on top of my favourite albums ever. SOD, Vibrator and WildCard are also great albums. They're all in my CD player very regularly. I can't say that of Most Prince albums.

Still I prefer Prince, Sananda does come close for me.

I don't think you can talk about rivals.
Every artist is influenced by others, nothing wrong with that.

Prince does his own thing, so do David Bowie, Sananda Maitreya, Beck and lots of others. They are all great artists, I just prefer one above the other. It's just a personal taste. For me Prince is number one but he feels the breath of David Bowie and Sananda Maitreya in his neck.[/quote]
Alright,now here's a reply I can live with!(Though imo ITHATTTD is by far not as good as PR!!!)

Some of you obviously need to look up the definition of "rival"

jacktheimprovident said:

"Boy I hate to say this.....Nigga please!!!!"

I listend to more than enough of TTDoody albums to KNOW that
he belongs exactly where he belongs...Obscurity.
[Edited 12/22/04 14:21pm]

Serious said:

Yawn.

jkj10 said:

I would have a hard time comparing any current musicians to Prince-- there's certainly nobody better, but ATWIAD and Lovesexy are not musical masterpieces. Only people on this site would make that claim. The other 4 you could make a case for but then again Parade isn't quite the album we make it to be either. Only a Prince fan would sit through Do U Lie (for the record I like it). The older I get, the less appreciation I have for Mountains. It's too lite-pop. There's no substance, edge or anything unique about that song at all. I like it because of the image of Wendy from the end of the movie that pops into my head. The song itself is enjoyable but nothing great. Certainly TTD has topped that once or twice over the years.

... One more thing. Prince's instincts were correct all of those years ago. "Kiss" didn't belong on the Parade album.

jkj10 said:

Like I said, it's very personal. For me ITHATTTD is on the same level as PR. I always have those 2 albums in the car when I'm going out, they make me want 2 move and dance all night.

GertjandeR said:

I don't know if I'd compare Hardline to Purple Rain, but I'd certainly rank Symphony or Damn next to just about anything Prince has done. It just has such a perfect balance of quantity and quality of material i.e. there's a lot of songs and they're all great and flow together well.

vainandy said:

Maybe early on in their careers, but as the early 80s came to a close, Prince left Rick in the dust!

anxiety said:

You got that right!

wow...it seems we have some Sananda fans here...

jacktheimprovident said:

I compare them on the feeling they give me. For me they aren't their best albums. I like Dirty Mind, Controversy and Rainbow Children better. The best Sananda records IMHO are Neither Fish Nor Flesh and Vibrator.

GertjandeR said:

Don't know about Hardline standing up next to PR, but I think TTD/Sananda's last album is better than, say, Musicology. (And most of the Prince albums of the last 8 years or so). I think he's also the more gifted lyricist (although P has his moments of lyrical brilliance - he just sounds like he's struggling to say anything reall honest and interesting these days...)

Overall, I think Prince's high points have been higher, and there's no-one that can really match him when he's on a roll, but I do find TTD's work more satisfying and meaningful than Prince's output of late.

butterfli makes note to self, check out TTD-Sananda

No one in P category can TOUCH! my delicious,sexy ass man! Why waste time to compare? there is a reason why we hang out here!

Kisses all ova Prince!!

I think Andre Cymone was a real rival for him within his own band. Jesse Johnson was another good rival for him when The Time used to open for him.
[Edited 12/24/04 7:20am]