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Reply #120 posted 12/26/04 2:03pm

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kalelvisj said:

Hello everyone at the org. been lurking here for a couple of years, and this is going to be my first post...be gentle.
I've got to say that I love this topic because I am a huge fan of both Prince and Elvis. And the things I like about them are very similar. They both did music that defied any sort of classification during the peaks of their careers. The both shattered not only racial but gender barriers. And they both tore it up on stage through out their careers.

But one seems to be at issue in this thread is racism. I am a little shocked to hear people say that everyone in the fifties had to be racist. If that was the case things would be even worse in this country than they are. I always find it upsetting to see racism from anyone, black white or the rainbow in between. There is no escaping the racist past of America. Period. There it is we are a nation ofpredjudiced people. Unfortunately that is the way it is. But that doesnt mean everyone is a racist. The Jim Crow south doesn't make everyone in the south a racist, the riots in LA doesn't mean every person of color is gonna cave in some truckers skull with a brick. But like the man himself said in "race" what are we gaining by only looking at that part of our history. And like another man said "If I can dream of a better land, where all my brother walk hand in hand, why Can't my dream come true?" Elvis "If I can Dream, 1968.)

Now to some cold hard facts. Presley recorded his first commercial work in 1954, Toured throughout the south where he was an outrageous success because NO ONE had heard anything like what he was putting out at the time. Chuck Berry and Little Richard both recorded their essential music after Presley was all over the air waves and the music they recorded after Elvis' success was far different than what the recorded before July 54 when Elvis first commercial single was released. Not point this out to in anyway to undermine the importance of either of these musical geniuses, just feel it important to put it all into context.
The biggest differences between Elvis, Chuck, and Little Richard is that Elvis ALWAYS acknowledged his influences both black and white and Chuck and Little Richard would have the world believe the created in a vacuum. Where is the theivery happening?

Culture is not genetic or racial it is environmental. The idea that if you take two people raised in the deep south, dirt poor sharecroppers, ostrecized from society and that based on the color of their skin one is a theif and the other a genius, that is in itself a racist notion.

Me personally I would rather put color aside and be part a new power generation.

Peace ya'll.
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More crap on this topic.(LOL)

First of all check out the documentary about Chuck Berry were he talks at length about being influenced by country music. Chuck is putting open about his influences.

Little Richard has talked about various artist that influcenced him. Don't look for Chuck or Little Richard to say they were influcened by Elvis. They see Elvis as a white guy who got over because he was white. I am not saying Elvis was not talented but, no way in this world a black man have been promoted and marketed like Elvis.

Sam Phillips said he was looking for a white man who could play this music. Sam knew he could sell more records with a white man then a black man.
That is really the bottom line and all the revisionist history in the world will not change it.
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Reply #121 posted 12/26/04 2:06pm

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Spats said:

There has never been any proof that Elvis was racist. That alleged comment that Elvis made was made up by a black magazine way back. All of their so called evidence was B.S. Redd Foxx was not a friend of Elvis', they only met a couple times in Vegas.

The Sweet Inspirations backed him up in concert. A racist would not do that. In Houston, the rednecks down there didn't want them on stage with Elvis but Elvis said if The Sweets couldn't appear than he wouldn't be appearing. The rednecks changed their minds.

Darlene Love claims she made out with Elvis in his trailer on the sets of one of his movies.

The guy from Public Enemy has since taken back what he said about Elvis because he actually did some research on him and realized he was wrong. Said his favorite Elvis tune was Suspicious Minds.

Prince is a fan of Elvis'. He talked about growing up on his movies when he was young and he has covered his tunes in concert.

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Elvis gave Redd Foxx a watch that weighted a pound. He must have liked him some
what. If you really want to believe that making out with a black woman and having black employees does't make you racist go ahead a live in a fantasy world.

As far as Chuck D from Public Enemy (that guy) he also use to diss Prince but he changed his mind once he was without a recording contract (LOL)
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Reply #122 posted 12/26/04 2:07pm

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Elvis Died On The Toilet toilet pooptoast

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Reply #123 posted 12/26/04 8:01pm

kalelvisj

More crap on this topic.(LOL)

First of all check out the documentary about Chuck Berry were he talks at length about being influenced by country music. Chuck is putting open about his influences.

Little Richard has talked about various artist that influcenced him. Don't look for Chuck or Little Richard to say they were influcened by Elvis. They see Elvis as a white guy who got over because he was white. I am not saying Elvis was not talented but, no way in this world a black man have been promoted and marketed like Elvis.

Sam Phillips said he was looking for a white man who could play this music. Sam knew he could sell more records with a white man then a black man.
That is really the bottom line and all the revisionist history in the world will not change it.
-----[/quote]

You know I have actually seen the Doc about Chuck Berry and it is awesome. While I may have been out of line to say that neither Berry nor Little Richard acknowledge influences, both, especially Little Richard are prone to making very bold statements about how they created Rock and Roll, which is more to the point of what I was trying to address. You are dead on about what Sam Phillips said about finding a white man to sing black music, but Phillips also went on to say that the music Elvis, Scotty and Bill made was something completely differnt than even he had imagined.

While Little Richard and Chuck Berry might not have been influenced by Elvis, or more specifically may not acknowledge any influence by Elvis, it is still an easy matter of putting on a CD of the music they made before Elvis' regional success in the South to hear the difference in what they were recorded before and after 1954.

I guess at the heart of what I was trying to get at in my initial post is that our generation seems to think that the music Presley made was just some straight imitation of the black music that already existed, when in reality it was a very sophisticated merging of several music forms, both black and white. I am not questioning the powerful impact that the blues/R & B had on Presley, or the sad state of Race relations in our country when Rock and Roll first immerged, but I taking issue with the racist notion that Elvis stole from the blues anymore than someone making an assertion Chuck Berry or Ray Charles stole from country music. These were all men of great talent who were influenced by all of the musical traditions that were alive in our country. As far as finding African american musicians who have acknowledged how Elvis influenced them, the list would be way to long, and really out of place in this already too long and sidetracked topic.

Thanks for a very well thought out response, except of course for the "crap" part. Hopefully with this semester of teaching over I will find time to participate in some of the more serious topics on the org like "what is my favorite Prince lyric, and when did I think the man was prettiest.
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Reply #124 posted 12/26/04 9:05pm

enjoyniki

bkw said:

The "dead like Elvis" line in Face Down is actually a sample from an unreleased Poet 99 track recorded in around 1989 I think.

Just some useless trivia for you. I think he used that line cos he liked the sample, simple as that. smile



Thank you for the insight.


I don't know what 'hood u peeps live in, but just like the saying "ELVIS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING.... DEAD LIKE ELVIS" was a heard on the streets to drill a point. That is because Elvis fans (white people) refused to belive that Elvis was dead. (just like Tupac supposedly faked his death--Machiavelli).

Anyway it is believed by some that Elvis was racist YET, he supposedly gave a black woman a brand new cadillac. Go figure.

When I first heard PEACH performed live at Radio City Music Hall, I closed my eyes and could see Elvis seeing that ditty. Prince don't hate Elvis.
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Reply #125 posted 12/30/04 6:05am

PurpleHeeler

Back on the original topic (I could care less if Elvis was racist)....There are "Elvis" sightings quite regularly....so the death of Elvis is questionable (not really, but its flagrant enough that some people believe it)....I see the "dead like Elvis" line as a comparison to himself "Prince is dead"....perhaps in his little purple world, Prince was dead....but folks were still spotting him at the local Wal-Mart (in the vein of Elvis sightings) no less....
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Reply #126 posted 12/30/04 10:26pm

XNY

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kalelvisj said:

More crap on this topic.(LOL)

First of all check out the documentary about Chuck Berry were he talks at length about being influenced by country music. Chuck is putting open about his influences.

Little Richard has talked about various artist that influcenced him. Don't look for Chuck or Little Richard to say they were influcened by Elvis. They see Elvis as a white guy who got over because he was white. I am not saying Elvis was not talented but, no way in this world a black man have been promoted and marketed like Elvis.

Sam Phillips said he was looking for a white man who could play this music. Sam knew he could sell more records with a white man then a black man.
That is really the bottom line and all the revisionist history in the world will not change it.
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You know I have actually seen the Doc about Chuck Berry and it is awesome. While I may have been out of line to say that neither Berry nor Little Richard acknowledge influences, both, especially Little Richard are prone to making very bold statements about how they created Rock and Roll, which is more to the point of what I was trying to address. You are dead on about what Sam Phillips said about finding a white man to sing black music, but Phillips also went on to say that the music Elvis, Scotty and Bill made was something completely differnt than even he had imagined.

While Little Richard and Chuck Berry might not have been influenced by Elvis, or more specifically may not acknowledge any influence by Elvis, it is still an easy matter of putting on a CD of the music they made before Elvis' regional success in the South to hear the difference in what they were recorded before and after 1954.

I guess at the heart of what I was trying to get at in my initial post is that our generation seems to think that the music Presley made was just some straight imitation of the black music that already existed, when in reality it was a very sophisticated merging of several music forms, both black and white. I am not questioning the powerful impact that the blues/R & B had on Presley, or the sad state of Race relations in our country when Rock and Roll first immerged, but I taking issue with the racist notion that Elvis stole from the blues anymore than someone making an assertion Chuck Berry or Ray Charles stole from country music. These were all men of great talent who were influenced by all of the musical traditions that were alive in our country. As far as finding African american musicians who have acknowledged how Elvis influenced them, the list would be way to long, and really out of place in this already too long and sidetracked topic.

Thanks for a very well thought out response, except of course for the "crap" part. Hopefully with this semester of teaching over I will find time to participate in some of the more serious topics on the org like "what is my favorite Prince lyric, and when did I think the man was prettiest.[/quote]

So what you're trying to say is...you think Prince is pretty,,,but when was that? eek wink
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Reply #127 posted 01/06/05 3:21pm

Astasheiks

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mozfonky said:

Fleshofmyflesh said:

And I'm not asking why YOU hate on Elvis (if you do). I'm asking what Prince has against him. He has trashed him a couple songs....Face Down, Rock n Roll is Alive. On the Musicology tour he began the chords of Jailhouse Rock and then stopped and said "You have to be the Prince before you can be the King."
What's the deal?


You got it all wrong buddy, I think Prince idolizes Elvis. I just think he didn't want nobody doing him like they did Elvis. Prince has copped Elvis moves since the Purple Rain era to the Present. Even on his latest tour, being huge fans of both, I couldn't miss the costumes being like Elvis' jumpsuits with a toned down effect, complet with bell bottoms. He also gestured like Elvis did with the wide legged stance. I'm surprised by how many people miss his homages to Elvis and never seem to notice them, I notice them every time. He's a great fan.


Copied Elvis... Prince has done moves that Elvis never has done or could do!
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Reply #128 posted 01/06/05 3:42pm

theoriginalQue
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...it never seemed 2 B that he was 'hating' on Elvis - having utilized plenty of his imagery...perhaps like other things, that which means the most is that which he seems 2 push away or act n manners that some would perceive as 'hating'...Elvis Became a King n his art, there's much 2 B learned....Prince is a master assimilator...not a Bad thing 4 a brotha that has strut his stuff across the world stage 4 betta than 20 years!!!
...Elvis is the patron saint of adventure 4 a friend & i who always lead/let us know we were on the right road 2 come across Prince cool 4 the record, i wonder if Elvis didn't just 'pass' as white 4 his career - weren't 2 many white dudes trying 2 hang around colored folk n the era he did B4 world success wink
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Reply #129 posted 01/06/05 4:28pm

MrSquiggle

Okay, didn't he do the first bit of Jailhouse Rock and then stop going "Hang on, wait a minute... We can be Princely, but we can't be no king." I thought that was more paying homage than a diss?
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Reply #130 posted 01/06/05 6:34pm

theoriginalQue
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kalelvisj said:

Hello everyone at the org. been lurking here for a couple of years, and this is going to be my first post...be gentle.
I've got to say that I love this topic because I am a huge fan of both Prince and Elvis. And the things I like about them are very similar. They both did music that defied any sort of classification during the peaks of their careers. The both shattered not only racial but gender barriers. And they both tore it up on stage through out their careers.

But one seems to be at issue in this thread is racism. I am a little shocked to hear people say that everyone in the fifties had to be racist. If that was the case things would be even worse in this country than they are. I always find it upsetting to see racism from anyone, black white or the rainbow in between. There is no escaping the racist past of America. Period. There it is we are a nation ofpredjudiced people. Unfortunately that is the way it is. But that doesnt mean everyone is a racist. The Jim Crow south doesn't make everyone in the south a racist, the riots in LA doesn't mean every person of color is gonna cave in some truckers skull with a brick. But like the man himself said in "race" what are we gaining by only looking at that part of our history. And like another man said "If I can dream of a better land, where all my brother walk hand in hand, why Can't my dream come true?" Elvis "If I can Dream, 1968.)

Now to some cold hard facts. Presley recorded his first commercial work in 1954, Toured throughout the south where he was an outrageous success because NO ONE had heard anything like what he was putting out at the time. Chuck Berry and Little Richard both recorded their essential music after Presley was all over the air waves and the music they recorded after Elvis' success was far different than what the recorded before July 54 when Elvis first commercial single was released. Not point this out to in anyway to undermine the importance of either of these musical geniuses, just feel it important to put it all into context.
The biggest differences between Elvis, Chuck, and Little Richard is that Elvis ALWAYS acknowledged his influences both black and white and Chuck and Little Richard would have the world believe the created in a vacuum. Where is the theivery happening?

Culture is not genetic or racial it is environmental. The idea that if you take two people raised in the deep south, dirt poor sharecroppers, ostrecized from society and that based on the color of their skin one is a theif and the other a genius, that is in itself a racist notion.

Me personally I would rather put color aside and be part a new power generation.

Peace ya'll.




....Beauteous kalelvisj...didn't have a chance 2 read your post B4 i gave mine....i'm feeling u on all points!!!! hope 2 C U posting more n the future!!! glad 2 C your voice here/hear cool
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Reply #131 posted 01/06/05 7:45pm

kalelvisj

theoriginalQueenB said:

kalelvisj said:

Hello everyone at the org. been lurking here for a couple of years, and this is going to be my first post...be gentle.
I've got to say that I love this topic because I am a huge fan of both Prince and Elvis. And the things I like about them are very similar. They both did music that defied any sort of classification during the peaks of their careers. The both shattered not only racial but gender barriers. And they both tore it up on stage through out their careers.

But one seems to be at issue in this thread is racism. I am a little shocked to hear people say that everyone in the fifties had to be racist. If that was the case things would be even worse in this country than they are. I always find it upsetting to see racism from anyone, black white or the rainbow in between. There is no escaping the racist past of America. Period. There it is we are a nation ofpredjudiced people. Unfortunately that is the way it is. But that doesnt mean everyone is a racist. The Jim Crow south doesn't make everyone in the south a racist, the riots in LA doesn't mean every person of color is gonna cave in some truckers skull with a brick. But like the man himself said in "race" what are we gaining by only looking at that part of our history. And like another man said "If I can dream of a better land, where all my brother walk hand in hand, why Can't my dream come true?" Elvis "If I can Dream, 1968.)

Now to some cold hard facts. Presley recorded his first commercial work in 1954, Toured throughout the south where he was an outrageous success because NO ONE had heard anything like what he was putting out at the time. Chuck Berry and Little Richard both recorded their essential music after Presley was all over the air waves and the music they recorded after Elvis' success was far different than what the recorded before July 54 when Elvis first commercial single was released. Not point this out to in anyway to undermine the importance of either of these musical geniuses, just feel it important to put it all into context.
The biggest differences between Elvis, Chuck, and Little Richard is that Elvis ALWAYS acknowledged his influences both black and white and Chuck and Little Richard would have the world believe the created in a vacuum. Where is the theivery happening?

Culture is not genetic or racial it is environmental. The idea that if you take two people raised in the deep south, dirt poor sharecroppers, ostrecized from society and that based on the color of their skin one is a theif and the other a genius, that is in itself a racist notion.

Me personally I would rather put color aside and be part a new power generation.

Peace ya'll.




....Beauteous kalelvisj...didn't have a chance 2 read your post B4 i gave mine....i'm feeling u on all points!!!! hope 2 C U posting more n the future!!! glad 2 C your voice here/hear cool

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Thanks for the kinds words. Love the org! plan to be posting more often. If I can keep my pc up... biggrin
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Reply #132 posted 01/07/05 12:43am

mozfonky

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Astasheiks said:

mozfonky said:



You got it all wrong buddy, I think Prince idolizes Elvis. I just think he didn't want nobody doing him like they did Elvis. Prince has copped Elvis moves since the Purple Rain era to the Present. Even on his latest tour, being huge fans of both, I couldn't miss the costumes being like Elvis' jumpsuits with a toned down effect, complet with bell bottoms. He also gestured like Elvis did with the wide legged stance. I'm surprised by how many people miss his homages to Elvis and never seem to notice them, I notice them every time. He's a great fan.


Copied Elvis... Prince has done moves that Elvis never has done or could do!


That's true, but Elvis still was a stronger presence than anyone else onstage. Prince has charisma but nowhere near Elvis'. That kind of thing that makes people turn and look before they see you, Elvis had that. Prince does too, but not as much. Elvis projected much better on stage too, that was his strongest point. He was a great entertainer.
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Reply #133 posted 01/07/05 4:19am

Karri

Here´s everything you need to know about that infamous shoe-shining comment:
http://snopes.com/music/a...sley1.asp. As for Chuck D, I´ve got loads of respect for him as an articulated commentator but he does have a tendency to fly off the handle at times. He seems to believe most everything he gets in his inbox. I remember he even went along with the claim that the word "picnic" originates from the times when white slave owners were entitled to "pick a nigger" to have their way with him. rolleyes

Karri
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Reply #134 posted 01/07/05 4:46am

laurarichardso
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kalelvisj said:

More crap on this topic.(LOL)

First of all check out the documentary about Chuck Berry were he talks at length about being influenced by country music. Chuck is putting open about his influences.

Little Richard has talked about various artist that influcenced him. Don't look for Chuck or Little Richard to say they were influcened by Elvis. They see Elvis as a white guy who got over because he was white. I am not saying Elvis was not talented but, no way in this world a black man have been promoted and marketed like Elvis.

Sam Phillips said he was looking for a white man who could play this music. Sam knew he could sell more records with a white man then a black man.
That is really the bottom line and all the revisionist history in the world will not change it.
-----


You know I have actually seen the Doc about Chuck Berry and it is awesome. While I may have been out of line to say that neither Berry nor Little Richard acknowledge influences, both, especially Little Richard are prone to making very bold statements about how they created Rock and Roll, which is more to the point of what I was trying to address. You are dead on about what Sam Phillips said about finding a white man to sing black music, but Phillips also went on to say that the music Elvis, Scotty and Bill made was something completely differnt than even he had imagined.

While Little Richard and Chuck Berry might not have been influenced by Elvis, or more specifically may not acknowledge any influence by Elvis, it is still an easy matter of putting on a CD of the music they made before Elvis' regional success in the South to hear the difference in what they were recorded before and after 1954.

I guess at the heart of what I was trying to get at in my initial post is that our generation seems to think that the music Presley made was just some straight imitation of the black music that already existed, when in reality it was a very sophisticated merging of several music forms, both black and white. I am not questioning the powerful impact that the blues/R & B had on Presley, or the sad state of Race relations in our country when Rock and Roll first immerged, but I taking issue with the racist notion that Elvis stole from the blues anymore than someone making an assertion Chuck Berry or Ray Charles stole from country music. These were all men of great talent who were influenced by all of the musical traditions that were alive in our country. As far as finding African american musicians who have acknowledged how Elvis influenced them, the list would be way to long, and really out of place in this already too long and sidetracked topic.

Thanks for a very well thought out response, except of course for the "crap" part. Hopefully with this semester of teaching over I will find time to participate in some of the more serious topics on the org like "what is my favorite Prince lyric, and when did I think the man was prettiest.[/quote
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I said all of the above not kalelvisj. We have to agree to disagree. I just don't think Elvis's music was a sophisticated merging of several music forms.
I think he was a white man who enjoyed RnB and wanted to perform it and he did do a fine job but, when you listen the orignal songs he covered. You can definitly hear the imitation. That said I am glad to see some topic other than P's looks on this board and I don't think P hates on Elvis. I think he is a big fan thus the Funkabilly cuts like Horny Toad and Delirious.
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Reply #135 posted 01/07/05 10:23am

mozfonky

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Karri said:

Here´s everything you need to know about that infamous shoe-shining comment:
http://snopes.com/music/a...sley1.asp. As for Chuck D, I´ve got loads of respect for him as an articulated commentator but he does have a tendency to fly off the handle at times. He seems to believe most everything he gets in his inbox. I remember he even went along with the claim that the word "picnic" originates from the times when white slave owners were entitled to "pick a nigger" to have their way with him. rolleyes

Karri


He also claimed Tupac was still alive and pointed to his Makavelli albums as proof of him faking his death. You would think he would use more sense in coming ot conclusions.
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Reply #136 posted 01/07/05 10:28am

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I said all of the above not kalelvisj. We have to agree to disagree. I just don't think Elvis's music was a sophisticated merging of several music forms.
I think he was a white man who enjoyed RnB and wanted to perform it and he did do a fine job but, when you listen the orignal songs he covered. You can definitly hear the imitation. That said I am glad to see some topic other than P's looks on this board and I don't think P hates on Elvis. I think he is a big fan thus the Funkabilly cuts like Horny Toad and Delirious.[/quote]

Funkabilly, hey I like that, never heard that one.
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Reply #137 posted 01/08/05 12:07am

kalelvisj

mozfonky said:

I said all of the above not kalelvisj. We have to agree to disagree. I just don't think Elvis's music was a sophisticated merging of several music forms.
I think he was a white man who enjoyed RnB and wanted to perform it and he did do a fine job but, when you listen the orignal songs he covered. You can definitly hear the imitation. That said I am glad to see some topic other than P's looks on this board and I don't think P hates on Elvis. I think he is a big fan thus the Funkabilly cuts like Horny Toad and Delirious.


Funkabilly, hey I like that, never heard that one.[/quote]
[quote]

Now funkabilly is a word to reckon with! I am all for agreeing to disagree. Might have put my first post in to heated of a thread biggrin

I of course stand by idea that the music created by Elvis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, and of course the Genius Ray Charles, was a masterful and sophisticated blend of all the best that american music had to offer. Little Richard said that R&B had a baby and they called it rock n roll. All I'm saying is that it sprang from an interracial relationship.

mozfunky, thanks for my new favorite word...funkabilly, need to make a mixtape of the best of it!
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Reply #138 posted 01/11/05 4:08am

Karri

laurarichardson said:

As far as Chuck D from Public Enemy (that guy) he also use to diss Prince but he changed his mind once he was without a recording contract (LOL)


I dunno, Public Enemy sampled the guitar solo in the end of "Let´s Go Crazy" in their song "Brothers Gonna Work It Out" (on "Fear Of A Black Planet", 1990). Certainly that´s paying tribute, not dissing? I don´t think they´d be willing to pay royalties to someone they don´t respect.


Karri
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Reply #139 posted 01/11/05 4:48am

laurarichardso
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Karri said:

laurarichardson said:

As far as Chuck D from Public Enemy (that guy) he also use to diss Prince but he changed his mind once he was without a recording contract (LOL)


I dunno, Public Enemy sampled the guitar solo in the end of "Let´s Go Crazy" in their song "Brothers Gonna Work It Out" (on "Fear Of A Black Planet", 1990). Certainly that´s paying tribute, not dissing? I don´t think they´d be willing to pay royalties to someone they don´t respect.


Karri

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I read a interview were Chuck D said that Prince was an example of what was wrong with music. This was in the Early 90's. I not sure why you would dis someone and then sample their music but let's be real rappers are always putting down RnB and then sampling it on their records.
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Reply #140 posted 01/11/05 4:53am

fartman

Karri said:

laurarichardson said:

As far as Chuck D from Public Enemy (that guy) he also use to diss Prince but he changed his mind once he was without a recording contract (LOL)


I dunno, Public Enemy sampled the guitar solo in the end of "Let´s Go Crazy" in their song "Brothers Gonna Work It Out" (on "Fear Of A Black Planet", 1990). Certainly that´s paying tribute, not dissing? I don´t think they´d be willing to pay royalties to someone they don´t respect.


Karri



is that really prince on brothers gonna work it out????
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Reply #141 posted 01/11/05 5:16am

Karri

fartman said:is that really prince on brothers gonna work it out????

Yep. Most every sample used by PE, among others, is listed on this site: http://www.the-breaks.com. It even mentions some samples Prince has used, such as the drums from "Soul Shack" on "Gett Off", "Funky Drummer" by James Brown, used (at least) on "My Name Is Prince" and "Rock Steady" by Aretha Franklin on "Daddy Pop".

Karri
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Reply #142 posted 01/11/05 5:56am

fartman

Karri said:

fartman said:is that really prince on brothers gonna work it out????

Yep. Most every sample used by PE, among others, is listed on this site: http://www.the-breaks.com. It even mentions some samples Prince has used, such as the drums from "Soul Shack" on "Gett Off", "Funky Drummer" by James Brown, used (at least) on "My Name Is Prince" and "Rock Steady" by Aretha Franklin on "Daddy Pop".

Karri



cool thanx
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Reply #143 posted 01/13/05 4:21am

Karri

laurarichardson said:

[quote]I read a interview were Chuck D said that Prince was an example of what was wrong with music. This was in the Early 90's.

eek I wasn´t aware of that. I could swear that Prince was listed among the most significant influences on Public Enemy in the liner notes of "Fear Of A Black Planet". Maybe they had some beef after that, or maybe the comment you mentioned was made before "Black Planet". It might be that Chuck D had some issues with MTV, after all, Prince was one of the first black artists to hit MTV big time, with "Little Red Corvette".


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Karri said:[quote]laurarichardson said:

I read a interview were Chuck D said that Prince was an example of what was wrong with music. This was in the Early 90's.

eek I wasn´t aware of that. I could swear that Prince was listed among the most significant influences on Public Enemy in the liner notes of "Fear Of A Black Planet". Maybe they had some beef after that, or maybe the comment you mentioned was made before "Black Planet". It might be that Chuck D had some issues with MTV, after all, Prince was one of the first black artists to hit MTV big time, with "Little Red Corvette".


Karri

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This was before Fear of A Black Planet. That is why I was surprised when he used the sample but that appear to be putting cool now.
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