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Thread started 12/15/04 7:07pm

thekidsgirl

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Prince and John Mayer

So I heard on the radio yesterday that Prince
was a huge John Mayer fan and he sends someone to hold a seat at all
of John's concerts in case he decides to show up biggrin

Unfortunately he hasn't made it to one of the shows yet though confused

For Prince to whin so much about the state of todays music
industry, he seems to like alot of current artists, which I think is cool!

It would be nice if he collaborated on a small project with someone hes a fan
of. Nothing big, just maybe something like that song he did with No Doubt?
If you will, so will I
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Reply #1 posted 12/15/04 7:16pm

jillybean

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No such thing
"She made me glad to be a man"
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Reply #2 posted 12/15/04 7:19pm

thekidsgirl

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jillybean said:

No such thing


Yeah, that was a great first single. I like City Love and Neon.
but Im no crazy John Mayer fan boxed
If you will, so will I
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Reply #3 posted 12/15/04 7:23pm

jillybean

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thekidsgirl said:

jillybean said:

No such thing


but Im no crazy John Mayer fan boxed

Neither am I. I was simply saying that in regards to a possible Prince/John Mayer duet, I believe there will be 'no such thing'.
"She made me glad to be a man"
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Reply #4 posted 12/15/04 9:18pm

Hotlegs

jillybean said:

thekidsgirl said:



but Im no crazy John Mayer fan boxed

Neither am I. I was simply saying that in regards to a possible Prince/John Mayer duet, I believe there will be 'no such thing'.


nod The only good song John Mayer was good for is Your Body Is A Wonderland. Other than his first single, he is all washed up and Prince wouldn't go that route.
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Reply #5 posted 12/15/04 10:03pm

Deminarcotix

You're body is a Wonderland?
What the hell is that?
It might as well be,
Your body is Disneyland.
John Mayers lyrics make me want
to crawl in a closet and hide..
I always said though, after a few
addictions and stints in rehab,
he might be pretty flippin good
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Reply #6 posted 12/15/04 10:16pm

BlackandRising

Hotlegs said:

jillybean said:


Neither am I. I was simply saying that in regards to a possible Prince/John Mayer duet, I believe there will be 'no such thing'.


nod The only good song John Mayer was good for is Your Body Is A Wonderland. Other than his first single, he is all washed up and Prince wouldn't go that route.



lol maybe you need to stick to Britney. John Mayer is incredibly mature for his age as a musician. His lyrics, the melodies he comes up with, the whole 9...he's a musician straight up. I've seen him a few times and he's definitely not going to appeal to a certain crowd, but I see this as a good thing. Kind of like Prince when he hit his second record. John Mayer will simply continue to make good music without all fo the bullshit trappings. He is, simply, a musician.
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Reply #7 posted 12/15/04 10:19pm

karebear00738

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I am a John Mayer fan... I think what P. sees in him is what he sees in some of the other younger artists of today that he is a fan of (Alicia Keys comes to mind).. ones that are at least trying to break this pop-song, bubblegum world of music and making real lyrics with real instruments... yah, Your Body is a Wonderland may be a lil corny, but how many times have you heard commercial P. songs and been like "he's so much DEEPER than that!!"... That's how I feel about Mayer, anyway.. ~

Please don't respond w/any hate biggrin ... I was just tryin' to put in my two cents~ twocents ~
~Karebear~


**If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention**
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Reply #8 posted 12/16/04 12:33am

MrSquiggle

BlackandRising said:

Hotlegs said:



nod The only good song John Mayer was good for is Your Body Is A Wonderland. Other than his first single, he is all washed up and Prince wouldn't go that route.



lol maybe you need to stick to Britney. John Mayer is incredibly mature for his age as a musician. His lyrics, the melodies he comes up with, the whole 9...he's a musician straight up. I've seen him a few times and he's definitely not going to appeal to a certain crowd, but I see this as a good thing. Kind of like Prince when he hit his second record. John Mayer will simply continue to make good music without all fo the bullshit trappings. He is, simply, a musician.


nod nod nod

Clarity is simply magic. music
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Reply #9 posted 12/16/04 1:04am

Hotlegs

BlackandRising said:

Hotlegs said:



nod The only good song John Mayer was good for is Your Body Is A Wonderland. Other than his first single, he is all washed up and Prince wouldn't go that route.



lol maybe you need to stick to Britney. John Mayer is incredibly mature for his age as a musician. His lyrics, the melodies he comes up with, the whole 9...he's a musician straight up. I've seen him a few times and he's definitely not going to appeal to a certain crowd, but I see this as a good thing. Kind of like Prince when he hit his second record. John Mayer will simply continue to make good music without all fo the bullshit trappings. He is, simply, a musician.



Shit, his song writing ability is matter of opinion. There is no way in hell that any person with true musical knowelege could even compare or pair with Prince. Aside from his first single, he ain't about shit just like Britney ( same old pop formula). The only thing he is good for is playing the guitar b/c he is far from from being like Jeff Buckley (now that was a true musician and song writer).
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Reply #10 posted 12/16/04 1:12am

BobbyPin

obviously ya'll aint never heard JM play the blues with Buddy Guy.

you'd swear that white boy was at the same bus stop as robert johnson.

lordy.
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Reply #11 posted 12/16/04 1:38am

JesseDezz

Caught him on Carson Daly two nights ago. Cool guy. One of the things he said was that he knows that there is a big difference between his recorded material and his live performances; hence, his next album will be more guitar-oriented. Did anyone catch his performance at that Eric Clapton Guitar Festival? Pretty good...
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Reply #12 posted 12/16/04 1:54am

Hotlegs

JesseDezz said:

Caught him on Carson Daly two nights ago. Cool guy. One of the things he said was that he knows that there is a big difference between his recorded material and his live performances; hence, his next album will be more guitar-oriented. Did anyone catch his performance at that Eric Clapton Guitar Festival? Pretty good...


Ok, I would agree with you that he is alright and got a while to go before I would consider him to be great.
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Reply #13 posted 12/16/04 4:14am

XxAxX

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Hotlegs said:

BlackandRising said:




lol maybe you need to stick to Britney. John Mayer is incredibly mature for his age as a musician. His lyrics, the melodies he comes up with, the whole 9...he's a musician straight up. I've seen him a few times and he's definitely not going to appeal to a certain crowd, but I see this as a good thing. Kind of like Prince when he hit his second record. John Mayer will simply continue to make good music without all fo the bullshit trappings. He is, simply, a musician.



Shit, his song writing ability is matter of opinion. There is no way in hell that any person with true musical knowelege could even compare or pair with Prince. Aside from his first single, he ain't about shit just like Britney ( same old pop formula). The only thing he is good for is playing the guitar b/c he is far from from being like Jeff Buckley (now that was a true musician and song writer).



beg to differ. mayer's first album is every bit as good as purple rain. it's hard for a fam to admit but prince isn't the only amazingly talented musician in town. y'all need to get out more
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Reply #14 posted 12/16/04 8:02am

Hotlegs

XxAxX said:

Hotlegs said:




Shit, his song writing ability is matter of opinion. There is no way in hell that any person with true musical knowelege could even compare or pair with Prince. Aside from his first single, he ain't about shit just like Britney ( same old pop formula). The only thing he is good for is playing the guitar b/c he is far from from being like Jeff Buckley (now that was a true musician and song writer).



beg to differ. mayer's first album is every bit as good as purple rain. it's hard for a fam to admit but prince isn't the only amazingly talented musician in town. y'all need to get out more


Sorry but his first album ain't coming up on shit.His album wasn't as a strong a debut as Jeff Bucley's Grace. However, Mayer's strong point is doing live acoustic performances and maybe thats what he should do with his next album instead of all this pop bulllshit.
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Reply #15 posted 12/16/04 11:36am

BlackandRising

Hotlegs said:

BlackandRising said:




lol maybe you need to stick to Britney. John Mayer is incredibly mature for his age as a musician. His lyrics, the melodies he comes up with, the whole 9...he's a musician straight up. I've seen him a few times and he's definitely not going to appeal to a certain crowd, but I see this as a good thing. Kind of like Prince when he hit his second record. John Mayer will simply continue to make good music without all fo the bullshit trappings. He is, simply, a musician.



Shit, his song writing ability is matter of opinion. There is no way in hell that any person with true musical knowelege could even compare or pair with Prince. Aside from his first single, he ain't about shit just like Britney ( same old pop formula). The only thing he is good for is playing the guitar b/c he is far from from being like Jeff Buckley (now that was a true musician and song writer).


True, it is a matter of opinion. If I asked a 13 yr old what she thought of Britney or Ashlee, she would probably say that their talents were on par with God. It's an opinion, but you have to take it for what it's worth and consider the source. Kind of like yours. If you think that JM's stuff is the formulaic pop drivel that drives radio, then more power to you. But to say that anyone with true musical knowledge cannot compare the two, i.e., Prince and JM, which I do not think anyone has done...well, now, you have me thinking that you have some sort of advanced degree in music theory, or you've played with some of the big hitters. Seeing as neither is probably the case, I'll just assume that you're a Prince fan who doesn't listen to anything else.
In case I'm wrong, and you care to enlighten us with your vast knowledge of music, I'm all ears.
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Reply #16 posted 12/16/04 12:00pm

Hotlegs

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Hotlegs said:




Shit, his song writing ability is matter of opinion. There is no way in hell that any person with true musical knowelege could even compare or pair with Prince. Aside from his first single, he ain't about shit just like Britney ( same old pop formula). The only thing he is good for is playing the guitar b/c he is far from from being like Jeff Buckley (now that was a true musician and song writer).


. If you think that JM's stuff is the formulaic pop drivel that drives radio, then more power to you. But to say that anyone with true musical knowledge cannot compare the two, i.e., Prince and JM, which I do not think anyone has done...well, now, you have me thinking that you have


If you had read this thread completely and not been such an analylitical asshole, you would have known that some orgers did try to compare Mayer album to Prince's second album which is ludicrous in my opinion. Unlike most, I am musically gifted vocalist, and was offered a scholarship to Berklee School Of Music, and have did session work so I know of what I speak. As I have said previously, John Mayer is good for playing the guitar and is far from being like Jeff Buckley (genius in his own right).

Personally, I could give 2 shits what your so called seasoned musicians in the Bay says about Mayer. I 've dabbled enoughin the biz to know that Mayer isn't a genius and is still a novice in training. So fucking what if he can pick up a guitar but he has a hell of a way to go before he even gets to close Eric Clapton or Prince status. He definitely is not a fucking genius when it comes to his musicianship and songwriting. However, I do feel given sometime he will have perfected his craft enough. His strong points are more so in his instrumentation more so than his vocals.

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BlackandRising

Hotlegs said:

BlackandRising said:



. If you think that JM's stuff is the formulaic pop drivel that drives radio, then more power to you. But to say that anyone with true musical knowledge cannot compare the two, i.e., Prince and JM, which I do not think anyone has done...well, now, you have me thinking that you have


If you had read this thread completely and not been such an analylitical asshole, you would have known that some orgers did try to compare Mayer album to Prince's second album which is ludicrous in my opinion. Unlike most, I am musically gifted vocalist, and was offered a scholarship to Berklee School Of Music, and have did session work so I know of what I speak. As I have said previously, John Mayer is good for playing the guitar and is far from being like Jeff Buckley (genius in his own right).
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LOL..Oh, so you're a gifted vocalist. Wow. Now, that is probably the most impressive reason to take anyone's opinion as fact since I've been reading the org. That is what you're saying...that because you were "offered" a scholarship to the Berklee School of Music, and that you've done session work, that you know what makes a good musician moreso than anyone else here? That's a bit pretentious seeing as how you cannot know everyone's background here on the org.
And I did read the thread. If you would be so kind as to quote some direct comparisons between Mayer and Prince, it would be appreciated.
I know plenty of SUCCESSFUL musicians here in the Bay area, all of whom have great respect for John Mayer. In fact, this is how I came to see him here twice. These musicians have a bit more than session work under their belt.
So, while you may have done some session work here and there, I think that I'm going to go with the opinions of seasoned musicians who know of what they speak, thank you. wink
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Reply #18 posted 12/16/04 11:21pm

BlackandRising

Hotlegs said:

BlackandRising said:



. If you think that JM's stuff is the formulaic pop drivel that drives radio, then more power to you. But to say that anyone with true musical knowledge cannot compare the two, i.e., Prince and JM, which I do not think anyone has done...well, now, you have me thinking that you have


If you had read this thread completely and not been such an analylitical asshole, you would have known that some orgers did try to compare Mayer album to Prince's second album which is ludicrous in my opinion. Unlike most, I am musically gifted vocalist, and was offered a scholarship to Berklee School Of Music, and have did session work so I know of what I speak. As I have said previously, John Mayer is good for playing the guitar and is far from being like Jeff Buckley (genius in his own right).

Personally, I could give 2 shits what your so called seasoned musicians in the Bay says about Mayer. I 've dabbled enoughin the biz to know that Mayer isn't a genius and is still a novice in training. So fucking what if he can pick up a guitar but he has a hell of a way to go before he even gets to close Eric Clapton or Prince status. He definitely is not a fucking genius when it comes to his musicianship and songwriting. However, I do feel given sometime he will have perfected his craft enough. His strong points are more so in his instrumentation more so than his vocals.

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Well, given that he is only 25 yrs of age, I would agree that he is still "in training." Most people still are at that age. And I don't see anyone arguing that he is/is not a genius comparable to Clapton or Prince(except you). But, you are I suppose. But I digress; from what you have stated in your posts, you are obviously one who has so much talent as to be able to judge those who are making it in the tough world of music. After all, you were offered a scholarship to Berklee, AND you have done session work? You must be humble to be so blessed, but only use your voice to make others sound good doing session work. Damn, who am I to disagree with you!
You're right; JM is just a hack. He may as well be playing a ukelele.
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