Anxiety said:

I agree with you Anxiety. There are some very funky songs on this cd. Unlike Rave which I think is mostly pop crap. I don't hate Rave, but IMO the best song on that cd is Pretty Man, whereas TRC has many great songs if you can get past the narration.

i think a lot of TRC was written and recorded with live performance in mind. so many of the songs just came to life for me when i heard them on the ONA tour.

[/b]Kisses all OVA whatEVER Prince lay down!!!

Anxiety said:

Hot Wit' U

Man ‘O’ War NO!

Thanks a lot guys! I think I'm gonna go with "The Rainbow Children".

LovesexyIsThe1 said:

the version of man'o'war on rave IN2 completely turned my ears around on that song. i couldn't deal with the original version...LOVE the reworked version. LOVE it.

Buy Rave.

Despite songs i like, such as Last December and Family Name, RC is too mired in obligatory religious dissertation. If you want to study whether you're a banished one or rainbow child get it. If you're offended by someone thinking their religion is the only one and if you don't follow it you're going to hell, stay away from RC. Just when you start to like a song, here's comes the chorus or verse about Jesus. (no offense to believers)

For all its 'experimentation' Rainbow Children is boring because the themes are so bare and repetitive. There's no mining for meaning. Some say they just listen to the music and ignore the lyrics. If you can do that, more power to you. The music on RC is awesome. But as a complete project, you can't ignore the weight of the words and the prejudice of the lyrics.

Now, Rave is no masterpiece, but I like Tangerine, So Far so Pleased, Everyday is a Winding Road, Man of War, I love you but i don't trust you anymore,and Whereever you Go. This is an album that , with the right singles, could have been in the Billboard top 5. Unfortunately,he choose the wrong songs to release. There is a lot of desperate pop fare on here, like he's pandering to the younger generation. But if you hang on, you'll find a half-dozen songs you'll like (unlike RC). Even after the album is finished, you'll get a surprise kick out of the bonus Pretty Man.


Let's just say, I like RAVE the moment I put it in my stereo (even the outdated better when it was made in the 80s title cut).

I had to listen to Rainbow three times to like it. And I still force myself out of intellectual discipline to like it.

I mean, technically, RC is a masterpiece of musicianship. But music isn't just about mechanics, but about the feeling and emotion it evokes. RC leaves me cold except for Last December.

Let's

You must buy Rave, if only for 'I love U but I don't trust U anymore'(one of his best songs ever) but as an whole album TRC is more special.
But eventually you will buy them both.

foowee! just buy both and skip lunch for a week

Actually, the title track "Rave" is about the only track on the album I thoroughly enjoyed simply because it was an "outdated 1980s cut". The rest of the album pissed me off because he followed current trends of hip hop and followed the lead of Michael Jackson by having guest artists on the album.

"The Rainbow Children" is definately one of his worst albums but at least it wasn't a "sellout" album.

Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic. It's an all-around good album with no need to push the skip button. I would buy it, if for nothing else, The Greatest Romance Ever Sold. It's utter fantasy paradice.


Sirah

Buy both!

I love all of his work.

Rave is utter shit. Get TRC, his best album for quite awhile, certainly his most interesting (content-wise) ever. Possibly.

purpleworld said:

mistake, U might like it because you think U should.
Thats an unpopular opinion but I will always stand by it. Live, its OK.
1+1+1=3 is overrated.
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Anxiety said:

For me too.

I never really liked TRC much until I saw the ONA tour, afterwhich, I was loving it for weeks.

Rave !!!

I really don't understand why so many people
here don't like it
It's great !!
except maybe for Eve's rapping on "Hot wit u"
and "The sun , the moon and the stars"
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Dewrede said:

i don't mind eve's rapping on "hot wit u", though i prefer hearing her on gwen's songs..."the sun, the moon and the stars" is another one of those that was completely redefined for me by the rave IN2 album...it sounds like something he woulda written on a vacation with his honey, just very mellow and relaxed and at peace. not a favorite by any means, but it's pleasant enough.

Well , those two things were the only "weak"
things i could think of on the album

Unfortunately i haven't heard Rave in2
Is it still available ?

Dewrede said:

i think you can still order it from the members section of npg retail. i highly recommend it.

Thanks

Dewrede said:

Yeah, I just ordered it this past weekend so it's definitely still available.

OK , guess i'll have to become a member then

Hey , anxiety , they quoted you !

Dewrede said:

Registering right now (although is suppose i'll need to get a Visa card or something)

But what's the meaning of "include a free gift message" , what should
i fill in ?!

Oh yeah , sending myself a gift message
i filled in "Well ,here it is" (in Dutch)
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For duets with Gwen Stefani, Eve and Chuck D. buy Rave, for some deep shit buy Rainbow Children. (I like Rainbow best, but Rave is fun) Rainbow is a deep album. Psychedelic trip.

i can't believe i'm saying this, but get "the rainbow children". neither are favorites of mine, but at least TRC has some really interesting moments on it

I guess they'll also charge money for delivering packages ,
damn that'll cost me more than 30$ , well , what the heck
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