kisscamille said:

Define "snob".

hellz yeah -- step off and talk 2 the hand
dont hate me because im fabulous


well i know IM not a music snob cuz i listen 2 EVERYTHING...well ALMOST everything that is lol

im open 2 new things...i jus kinda avoid pop

Had I not been spoiled at age 8 by some of the funkiest music on the planet, God knows what garbage I'd be listening to right now.

I am darn proud of loving prince for
twenty years and it has paid off .
Now I know what I like Princes good music.

7salles said:

This is a good example of why we are snobs. Taste is an individual thing and who's to say mine is better than an MJ fan's. Even Prince fans-- or should I say especially Prince fans-- have various tastes. I wouldn't put Zappa up there with the greats, but some of you would. Many Prince fans love Madonna, Janet, and other pop acts just as much, if not more than Prince.

I don't know if I'm a complete snob because I can enjoy Mj, Janet, Usher, etc. and still differentiate between that and the artistry of Prince, Jimi, Ani, Miles, Dylan, etc. I can even appreciate the artistry of groups like the Beatles whom I don't even care for. I think a snob is somebody who acts like somebody's music is beneath them and unworthy just because it doesn't have the complexity or innovation that the greats have.

UndercovaBrotha said:

We may be called snobs because we recognize true talent when it slaps us in the face. Once you get that whiff of talent, it's hard to turn back and be able to listen to just anything else.

Some Prince fans THINK they are music snobs.

whodknee said:

NouveauDance said:

and some music snobs THINK they are P fans.

And some music fans think they r P snobs.

And some P snobs think they r music fans.

Calling ourselves music snobs is a good ego rub. And it's good to carss your ego, now and again. So, altogether now

NO


prince is not underground stuff. prince is considered commercial pop shit

I admit that I am a music snob. But I generally keep my opinions to myself if someone is talking up a much less talented singer/musician than Prince. But The voice in my head says, they are inferior to Prince in musicianship, creativity, etc.Can't you see that? I'm sure some Prince fans can relate. For me, Prince is the guage in which to measure everyone else. I make no apologies. My own twin sister(who challenges everything) never challenges me on Prince's superiority. I've converted her, she makes Prince comparisons too.

whodknee said:

I proudly wear the snob title then.

AsianBomb777 said:

i think you're talking about prince fans from before the 'change'.
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you people scare me. there are TONS of people out there making music who are just as talented as prince. you need to listen to a wider variety.

and whenever prince starts that snobbish shit about 'real musicians playing real music' put your fingers in your ears and hum loudly to drown him out. bad enough he's spouting this egotistical nonsense, don't let him suck you in, too

Of course, there are more people in the world who are excellent musicians, but what makes Prince so special is that he managed to combine a high artistic level with commercial success and an interesting personality. He just is beyond compare.

Back to topic, I think that many people see me as a music snob, but I don't care. I was a Prince fan during the name change period when everybody laughed at me and made stupid jokes about him. The same people now complain about the low level of pop music these days and the shit they play on the radio. They are not making jokes anymore.

If there were more "music snobs" (or better "music gourmets") out there, the quality of today's pop music would be much higher. Nowadays, I prefer classical music most of the time, Prince is one of the few pop artists I still adore, just too much crap out there.

XxAxX said:

Yeah, but don't you want to hear real musicians playing real music?

What's wrong with being a music snob ??? LOL

There's nothing wrong with having taste, and being able to discern what's actually good from what's crap . Also it's important to sometimes know what level something is on, even if you enjoy it. For example, McDonalds tastes good sometimes, but you can't really compare it to a gourmet meal. The same way you might enjoy someone, like say, Usher or Lil Jon or kid rock, but can realize that it's not on the same artistic level as a Prince or a Miles Davis or a Sinatra or Dylan .

One of the reasons that I love Prince is because he's very knowledgable about a lot of music styles , and can incorporate them into his work. If a CD is all ballads, or all hard rockers, or all hip-hop, I get bored. Instead I prefer variety and mixture, which you get from the best artists like The Beatles or Led Zep or Prince

jjhunsecker said:

I totally agree.

XxAxX said:

No, there are not. There are thousands upon thousands of artists out there but maybe only a hundred that even play real instruments. I'm not interested in listening to a machine.

XxAxX said:

When Prince says "real musicians playing real music", he doesn't say that he is the only one doing so. He's just pointing out what his view of music is, and that may imply that his performance will be different from those a lot of today's "radio favourites" usually do. He doesn't disrespect people like Bowie or Sting with it. It's your interpretation that makes it snobbish, not Prince's words themselves.

skywalker said:

I get accused of being a freak.

Prince fan? Yup

Snob? U betcha

minneapolisgenius said:

i knew i'd take heat for that post.

let me explain. i think prince is being 'snobbish' in his attitude these days because real music is in the ears of the beholder and it's not his call to make in determining what music qualifies as 'real'.

obviously the world of music is in a sad state today, cart leading the horse and all, corporate band 'packages' being put together for their boy/girl good looks, lip-synching all over the place. we all know this. technology has changed musical form significantly in the last 40 years, allowing posers to take the stage and look good while sounding okay. is it important to have mastered an instruement well enough to perform live? perhaps.

but whether or not a musician can take the stage and jam in the fashion prince approves, the 'old style' method of live performing, is one thing. to call a musician less than 'real' because they don't measure up to this standard is. .. well, snobbish in my opinion.

i guess i prefer a humbler prince, the one who can remember when he himself played all the 'instruments' in his basement on that first demo tape (read drum machines and samples on the synth) to the prince who raises himself above all those he considers less than 'real'. just my 2c

XxAxX said:

Well I don't really mind him going on about "real" musicians, but I don't understand him when he keeps saying that if kids don't pick up an instrument we're going to be "just a bunch of machines" when he used a drum machine for the first ten years of his career. You can still still be a real musician IMO and use a drum machine, becuase it's all in how much creativity you have to program it. Prince had lots of it. But it is like he's forgetting nowadays that he ever used one.

To understand the funk is a luxury not anybody can afford.

It's not his call, XxAxX?
He's earned the right 2 xpress his musical bliefs, wouldn't u agree?

4 the record, he's ALWAYS held himself above others
No1 xpects u 2 adhere 2 the ways of the pharaoh

SquarePeg said:

i agree. talent is talent and the result is what matters, imo, not the process of achieving results.


i get what he's saying about playing live instruments. for thousands of years music has depended live performance of an instrument capable of holding it's own without an amplifier. vibrating string/vibrating body/various percussion. sound traveling through the air and hitting our ears in real time.

and there really is nothing like hearing a guitar chime in its harmonics on that perfect chord, or feeling a grand piano actually strum along with your own hands. if the electrobabble of this world ever goes away the vibrating string is still our friend. i can understand why he would advocate playing real instruments, and the more the better really.

but to say other musical style isn't 'real' seems disparaging, imo. i dunno.

i guess i shouldn't have burst onto this thread and accused 'you people' of scaring me. i don't really hate prince. the truth is i'm bummed about the inauguration and so am generally cranky today. prince ain't helping and well, there you have it. poor prince. poor org.

poor, pitiful me. i better take my cranky ass on outta here back into the P&R forum where people are more quarrelsome like me

XxAxX said:

When was he ever humble?

A great artist has to have some form of snobbery. You have to believe that what you're doing is the best way to do it. When this is your mindset you're bound to let it show from time to time. I'm not saying it's good or bad.