Dewrede said:

Please get a grip! too easy...

I would just want to hang out, talk, & give him a kiss he'll never forget.

FunkMistress said:

First off, I haven't heard too many stories of male rapists who took the time to make waffles, sing a song, or conversate with their victim, so basically, the whole, "let's reverse the genders" statement is rendered null and void to me. Note to self: Next time, I'll just say I'd invite him in for tea and biscuits and a "good time", but only if he wants to, so people don't get all women's lib and double-standardish .

estelle1981 said:

I think your missing the point
The word rape means an act of rage and hate and cowardice, is this what people want to do to prince?

estelle1981 said:

Knowing how Prince is an intelligent man and all, my bet is that he would only enjoy "conversating" with a person who realizes there is no such word as the word "conversate".

paintsprayer said:

Well, in the context of this thread, I use it as just a generic term, like some people would say "That's cool", "That's hot", or "That's funky", and not be referring to ice, fire, or smell. That's how I interpreted it in this thread. Now, I've heard some males on the Org say that they would like to "fuck" or "have sex with" a beautiful female celebrity in a thread that is not even based around that context and I realize that it's just their fantasies. But, in reality, do these guys actually think that these women would even agree to have sex with them? In my fantasy, I would "rape" or "take advantage" of that man, or at least his face, but in reality, I don't think I would be able to even get close enough to him to say, "Hello". Between his bodyguards, male and female fans, his bandmembers, and Mani, getting a glimpse of him outside of his concerts might be a little difficult. In reality, does anyone honestly believe that Prince would just walk up to their door without his bodyguard(s) or his wife being with him? Trust me, I wouldn't be following Prince down a dark alley with the intent of actually raping him....dude, I ain't following nobody down any dark alleys. Anyone who wants to come back to fantasyland with me for just a little while is more than welcome...but just on this post.

TimCalhoun said:

You mean "conversate" isn't a word?

estelle1981 said:

If you want to have a fantasy of "fucking" him go ahead, and use a word that means that. To fantasize about sex with a celebrity is not the same as a fantsy of forcing the person. It is a powerful word and you should be aware of it's effect before using it. "cool" "hot" or "funky" are not the same as they don't conotate hate. The word has about the same meaning or worse if you said "ladies when I meet Prince I want to murder and dismember him", and then told me you were just saying that in the context of this thread. I do not have anything personal against you, I just think people should understand what they are saying when they say it.

estelle1981 said:

No, it isn't.

TimCalhoun said:

I was jokin' wit cha. I remember when Nelly said it in one of his songs a couple years ago and someone was like, "Since when is 'Conversate' a word?" That had everyone running for their dictionaries.

estelle1981 said:

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if it does end up in the dictionary soon.

I realize language is an ever evolving animal but until "conversate" does get included in the dictionary, I'm going be a about its usage (and probably tick some people off in the process, but oh well. )

paintsprayer said:

Telling someone that you think they're "funky", and that person might not be up on the lingo, could be interpretated as being a hateful and/or harmful statement by that person. I feel that way about anyone who throws around the words, "I love you" or "I hate you". Having a family member, close friend, or your other half say "I love you" is completely different from when a stalker says it. Everyone interprets things differently, from music to slang, so you have to go on the context of the subject at hand and, that is, "hypothetically speaking", what female Prince fams would do if they had Prince to themselves? The word, "rape", is even used by the poster of this subject. My interpretation of the use of the word, "rape" in this thread was throwing Prince down and having your way with him, not following him down a dark street and using a dangerous object to make him do what you want him to do. You interpreted it differently, which I think is great. To use a musical reference to support my feelings on the how things are misinterpreted, I use a lyric from Prince himself in " Hate U": "U're Honor. If it pleases the court, I'd like to have the defendant place her hands behind her back....so, I can tie her up real tight and get into the act." Well, what if she doesn't want to place her hands behind her back and be tied up? But, in the context of the song, I wasn't going to throw a hissy fit about this....now, let him have said it in a normal conversation and he probably would have been mased and kneed in the balls. I agree with you that some words and expressions are thrown around a little too leisurely at times, just like how my female friends and I, jokingly, call each other 'Bitches'...ohh, but trust me, I can tell when they aren't joking, because it'll be used out of the joking context. They're all just silly little expressions that get thrown around...with the exception of that "I want to murder and/or dismember Prince", that's a little much, don't you think? If someone throws that expression around, I would be getting as far away from that person as I could, because, he/she might get the urge to practice on somebody. Words can be damaging no matter what their intent may be...it's all based on each person's individual interpretation of that word. But, since the use of the word is offensive to some, I personally won't use it anymore on this site, out of respect for other's feelings. But, I would still like to make him some waffles and have him play me a song...if he didn't mind .
[Edited 12/17/04 8:27am]

estelle1981 said:

I hope you are either very young or are just trying to one up me to respond like this. The point is that some words are not just silly expressions that get thrown around. I am aware of how many people used it lightly on this thread, but you are the won who responded, that is why I said it wasn't personal.

paintsprayer said:

Well, considering what the topic is and how the word was used from the very beginning, I can't understand how comments weren't made about it then. It offends me when people use that "you must be very young" expression. It's insulting, considering the fact that there are people 3 times my age that use derogatory statements that are just as bad, if not worse. I've met people younger than me, who have been all over the world and have had some detrimental life experiences that they lived through, so I learned a long time ago, that age doesn't really mean squat. I've done and experienced more in my 23 years on this earth than both of my parents. Nor, was I trying to "one up" you. You replied to my post, so I replied back, something that commonly happens on message boards. Plus, despite me being "very young"(as you say), I am more than happy to apology for offending anyone. Never once did I say my interpretation of the word was law. I just said, it was my interpretation of the word in this thread. To you and some others, it's wrong, so I apologize for offending and I won't use it anymore. Personally, it offends me when guys, not just on this site, say they want to "fuck" a girl that they don't even know, just because she's pretty or has a nice body. If that girl doesn't want to have sex with that guy, who's to say that he won't take advantage of her, in which case, the word "fuck" turns into "rape". But, that is how I feel about that and how I interpret it, not how everyone feels. But, this is not even worth an argument, because, like I said, everyone interprets things differently, just like how you interpreted my response to you as me trying to "one up" you when all I was doing was clarifying my personal interpretation. So, I apologize to you for offending you and anyone else, that was never my intent.

It is not about offense, it is about what the language means, it it actually scares and saddens me that you use analogys of people wanting to fuck someone and try to compare it to rape. I'm gonna stop now because this has just turned into I'm right your wrong type of thing
[Edited 12/17/04 9:05am]

paintsprayer said:

Actually, this is a debate about a word that has offended someone, otherwise, no one would be saying anything about it. Secondly, this is a personal opinion/interpretation thing...nobody can be right or wrong. Where was I comparing fucking to raping? I said, someone that says they want to fuck someone and that other person doesn't want it has, in some past cases, turned into rape. That's not comparing, that realizing that one thing can lead to another if someone doesn't think it through properly. Any sexual talk or action has the potential of turning into an act of aggression if one person wants it more than the other. It can and has happened, more than once, in more than one country. You're 100% right that the word shouldn't be thrown around so leisurely as it is offensive to some, which is why I apologized and won't use it ever again on this site. If something I do or say is offensive to even just one person, I'm more than happy to apologize.
[Edited 12/17/04 9:26am]