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Thread started 12/03/04 9:25pm

booyah

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Which Prince songs use unusual time signatures?

I'm not a musician, and I'm not very familiar with musical terms, but considering the huge wealth of Prince material, it seems he uses 2/4 and 4/4 a lot. Listening to Glass Cutter recently, though, I realised that that song must have a very different time signature.

What other songs use a different / unusual time? Am I making a broad statement which isn't true? It's quite possible that I'm just not well trained, but this is something I'd be interested in finding out more about.
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Reply #1 posted 12/03/04 9:42pm

Anxiety

what signature is "ballad of dorothy parker" in? i seem to remember it being in a wacky time signature, but i'm listening to other stuff at work right now and i'm not able to map it out in my head...mad
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Reply #2 posted 12/03/04 11:26pm

glamslamkid

What's up with that off beat horns part in Mountains? And babyGoGo skips, and there's a part in Extra Loveable that jumps..
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Reply #3 posted 12/04/04 1:14am

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Dorothy Parker is in 4/4 time. The percussion is in a schizo time signature, but Prince pulls it together to make the song standard rock/funk. The same with If I Was Your Girlfriend.
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Reply #4 posted 12/04/04 4:10am

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Glass Cutter is also just 4/4 time. I think non-musicians sometimes get time signatures confused with interesting and syncopated rhythms within the time signature.
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Reply #5 posted 12/04/04 5:59am

wyld1

How about Rebirth of the Flesh? The time changes when it goes into the bridge. Brilliant.
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Reply #6 posted 12/04/04 7:48am

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bryanpage said:

Glass Cutter is also just 4/4 time. I think non-musicians sometimes get time signatures confused with interesting and syncopated rhythms within the time signature.

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Reply #7 posted 12/04/04 7:50am

booyah

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How about Power Fantastic?
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Reply #8 posted 12/04/04 7:52am

Xagain

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"Curious Child" is in 3/4.
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Reply #9 posted 12/04/04 10:02am

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Power Fantastic is either 3/4 or 6/8. Most likely 6/8.

Pretty much all of Prince's songs are standard 3/4 or 4/4. Which is most of any popular musician's songs. One of the few exceptions I can think of is probably Sting, he uses all kinds of strange time signatures like 5/8 and 7/8.

Classical music is where you'd go to find the really unusual time signatures.
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Reply #10 posted 12/04/04 10:16am

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jtgillia said:

Power Fantastic is either 3/4 or 6/8. Most likely 6/8.

Pretty much all of Prince's songs are standard 3/4 or 4/4. Which is most of any popular musician's songs. One of the few exceptions I can think of is probably Sting, he uses all kinds of strange time signatures like 5/8 and 7/8.

Classical music is where you'd go to find the really unusual time signatures.


Funny you should mention Sting - it was one of his songs, Seven Days, that really got me thinking about this. I think Seven Days is written in 7/8 or something like that, and listening to that, I was thinking I wonder if Prince has written anything in that time.
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Reply #11 posted 12/04/04 10:20am

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I think 'She loves me 4 me' is in 6/8, right? At least somebody told me.
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Reply #12 posted 12/04/04 10:58am

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The correct definition of an "odd" time signature is one where the beats can't be subdivided in groups of two or three. For instance 5/4, 7/8, 11/8 etc. Therefore, 3/4, 6/8, or even 9/8 are not really odd time signatures, although they may be unusual in certain types of music.

As some of you have noticed, Prince sometimes use syncopated rhythms that might give the illusion of an odd time signature, when it's really in "regular" 4/4 time. The first example that comes to mind is "Schoolyard", which actually took me quite a while to figure out...

I wouldn't be surprised if some of Prince's more "progressive" rock material (such as "3 chains o'gold", parts of "Rainbow children" etc) has an occasional 5/8 bar here and there. But as far as I know, he hasn't written (or at least not released) any complete song in an odd time signature.

However, I read somewhere that he sometimes played Paul Desmond's "Take Five" in concerts a couple of years ago...that's in 5/4 swing time.
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Reply #13 posted 12/04/04 6:32pm

prettymansson

SCHOOLYARD ....superfunky !
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Reply #14 posted 12/04/04 7:02pm

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booyah said:

I'm not a musician, and I'm not very familiar with musical terms, but considering the huge wealth of Prince material, it seems he uses 2/4 and 4/4 a lot. Listening to Glass Cutter recently, though, I realised that that song must have a very different time signature.

What other songs use a different / unusual time? Am I making a broad statement which isn't true? It's quite possible that I'm just not well trained, but this is something I'd be interested in finding out more about.


I think the most bizzare Prince has gotten in terms of time signatures is a waltz that he has which is 3/4. I think it's called "A Place In Heaven"...off of Prince's Crystal Ball...not prince's Crystal Ball


this is the edit:
I guess he has more, like others statted earlier in the thread. But 3/4 & 6/8 is all he's done besides 4/4. In terms of his time signatures, Prie isn't too avant garde...but them most Pop/Rock/R&B artist arent. It's hard to listen to music in weird time sig's anyway.
[Edited 12/4/04 19:06pm]
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