Do you think it would made any diffiernce in the commerical success of SOTT?? I saw the Loevesexy tour and it wasn't all that bad, but I think the SOTT tour would faired much better. He had the momentum in the fall of 1987 with the U got look and I could never..singles on the pop charts and Adore and Hot Thing on thr r&b charts.

I will just chalk it up to one of many Prince blunders....

Prince did tour with Sign of the Times: he did Europe. He even put one of the concerts out on video/dvd...

bds70 said:

dennis said:

But he didn't tour the USA!!!!!

bds70 said:

that's true, but that doesn't mean he didn't take it on the road...

How many times do we have to repeat....there is land outside the US...yoú are not an island

bds70 said:

That is coz he likes Europe sooooo much.. there has got the be a difference

I was there in too in Utrecht / Holland
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Dewrede said:

so was I! 6th row, centerstage! my first show! I got in the stadium, started walking to my seat and the stage just kept getting bigger and closer!

That's cool ! It was my first concert too
When i was there it started to rain and he wanted to stop because
he thought his equipment could get wet or something

Then the whole crowd started shouting ; "Hij is een hondelul, hij is een hondelul"

Meaning something like "He's a prick" (well, literally dog's prick)
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bds70 said:

As an Amreican I'll answer your question...YES SOTT was/is a better album. R&B radio were playing cuts like adore, hot thang, and you got the look etc...I remember reading somewhere Dr. Fink beg Prince to play the states but he refused. Like you said one of his many blunders.

SOTT was released all across the US in major theaters. It was just like a tour, but without the roadies and sweat stains.

bds70 said:

The SOTT tour was a massive success.

Are you just doing the typical blinkered american thing? "If he didn't tour here, then something wrong?"

There is more money to be made worldwide that in the US alone. Now is Prince the fool??

You want to chalk it up at one of Prince's blunders.

Everyone one else chalks it up as American ignorance.



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I can't enough of watching SOTT!!!

bds70 said:

Now that's just a damn shame.

okay american dudes here is how it was back in 87, u stopped listening when the man did not put out purple rain 2, u know when he put out the wonderfull physcodelic a.t.w.i.a.d the exuisite parade and the ground breaking SOTT , 4 sum reason his fellow yankees found it all 2 complex!!! and us euoro's took him 2 our hearts, all these albums selling more in liberated europe than religious fucked up america so the man came to the people who adored him hence SOTT was given 2 the people who would accept it 4 what it was. A MASTERPEICE>

THe man lived his potent years in euorope cause u lot and your fuckin double standards pissed him off. U GOT WHAT U DESERVE IN THAT FUCKER BUSH, U HAD A CHANCE 2 REDEEM YOURSELVES BUT WHAT DID U DO, U FUCKIN ELECTED A MONKEY THAT MAN IS AS THICK AS MY 9'DICK CANT U SEE WHAT HE IS DOING 2 U'r NATION IN THE EYES OF THE REST OF THE WORLD OUTSIDE THE USofA?? STAND UP AND ORGANIZE AGAINST THE NEW BREED.

GLAD HE DIDN'T TOUR THE STATES WITH SOTT! SAW IT ON CABLE THE OTHER DAY, THAT WAS THE SADDEST CONCERT I'VE SEEN PRINCE PERFORM I HATE CONCERTS WITH THE EXTRA PEOPLE ON STAGE ESP CAT ON STAGE WITH HER HOUSESHOES . IT WAS EMBARRASSING, EVEN THOUGH PRINCE LOOKED GOOD IN HIS OUTFITS


LET THE HATING BEGAN!



BY THE WAY SOTT SUCKS MAJOR ASS!

GLAD HE DIDN'T TOUR THE STATES WITH SOTT! SAW IT ON CABLE THE OTHER DAY, THAT WAS THE SADDEST CONCERT I'VE SEEN PRINCE PERFORM I HATE CONCERTS WITH THE EXTRA PEOPLE ON STAGE ESP CAT ON STAGE WITH HER HOUSESHOES . IT WAS EMBARRASSING, EVEN THOUGH PRINCE LOOKED GOOD IN HIS OUTFITS


LET THE HATING BEGAN!


c what i fuckin mean 'even though prince looked good in his outfits' , how the fuck did this man come from u'r shores he belongs with bowie beatles stones who led zeplin pink floyd and robbie williams 4 the love of the wee man SOTT and u never got it. just listen 2 the variety of song, the change of style, oh a give up am sure PRINCE has got scottish blood in him anyway!!

SPOOKYGAS said:

FIRST OF ALL, SOTT WAS NOT GROUNDBREAKING. IT WAS A MAJOR CROSSOVER THAT PRINCE MADE, WHICH MOST ARTIST DO AND LOSE A BIG PART OF THEIR FAN BASE AND IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICE IT WAS DOWNHILL FOR PRINCE (IN THE DETROIT R&B MARKET)

SECOND YEAH, HE WENT TO LIBERATED EUROPE AND SOLD MORE ALBUMS, AND CAME BACK TO THE SO-CALLED FUCKED-UP USA AND BANKED HIS MONEY WITH THE FDIC BACKING, YOU TRICK!

THIRD, I LISTENED TO THE VARIETY OF SONGS ON SOTT AND IF I DON'T LIKE, I DONT'T LIKE!

FOURTH, I DIDN'T VOTE FOR BUSH 1ST OR 2ND TERM

FIFTH, I DON'T HAVE TO REDEEM MYSELF TO YOU OR NOBODY ELSE IN THIS ASS SORRY WORLD

debbiedean2 said:

You forgot point 6.

You had a lobotomy.

FIRST OF ALL, SOTT WAS NOT GROUNDBREAKING. IT WAS A MAJOR CROSSOVER THAT PRINCE MADE, WHICH MOST ARTIST DO AND LOSE A BIG PART OF THEIR FAN BASE AND IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICE IT WAS DOWNHILL FOR PRINCE (IN THE DETROIT R&B MARKET)

SECOND YEAH, HE WENT TO LIBERATED EUROPE AND SOLD MORE ALBUMS, AND CAME BACK TO THE SO-CALLED FUCKED-UP USA AND BANKED HIS MONEY WITH THE FDIC BACKING, YOU TRICK!

THIRD, I LISTENED TO THE VARIETY OF SONGS ON SOTT AND IF I DON'T LIKE, I DONT'T LIKE!

FOURTH, I DIDN'T VOTE FOR BUSH 1ST OR 2ND TERM

FIFTH, I DON'T HAVE TO REDEEM MYSELF TO YOU OR NOBODY ELSE IN THIS ASS SORRY WORLD

sott was not a crossover u fuckin dimwit it was a nod in the direction of all the man's influences with his tilt, the crossover was purple rain which is why u yankees baulked at the experimental music that followed!! for fuck sake most of your biblebashin states tried 2 ban the cover of LOVESEXY cause the man's penis looked like a flower!! SOTT was almost 2 overreaching in its attempt 2 cover so many styles of music but the man pulled it off. It is widley considered 2 be his best album by the critics so if u dont like it then fuck
off and stop making an arse of yourself by making ridiculous statements about one of the greatest albums of the late 20th century. and as 4 u'r president im glad u didn't vote 4 the fuckin war monger but can u have a word with some of your compatriots and tell them this man is providing the world with more terrorists than bin laden or saddam could have wished 4. 'Cinnamon girl'

LovesexyIsThe1 said:

Might I ask why???

SquirrelMeat said:

Dude..RELAX!!!

Just a question...The fact is Lovesexy album/tour in the US was a failure. Period.Amen.

At the time, specficaly the fall of 1987, his music was doing alright here, to keep it going he should of brought that tour to the US. But he gave us an album which IMO is alright, but lacked any commercial appeal,and his album and tour suffered from it.

It does matter where you live, but according to most post here the SOTT album is his best, and some of us feel cheated that we didn't get to witness it, that's all. Don't go reading into any further than that.

This thread got outta hand real fast huh!

SPOOKYGAS said:

wasn't it the other way round?

The Lovesexy shows included the SOTT show, except for a couple of songs (SOTT, PITS, G&B, Hot Thing, ICNTTPOYM, IIWYG, FIML and IGBABN). All other songs that made up a SOTT show were also in the Lovesexy show - in exactly the same arrangements and with the same choreography and light effects.

In 1987/1988 it didn't matter what show Prince would have taken to the US: it would have failed anyway... rap/hip-hop and house emerging on the dance spectrum and garage rock emerging on the pop spectrum: he didn't fit in either and he did not make a crossover as he did in the early eighties with rock, new wave and disco. With his love, peace and God message of Lovesexy... he had no chance in the musical violence that ruled the late eighties.
But I wouldn't call it a blunder. He just followed his heart and gut-feelings, or better said: Prince did what Prince always sings about... what's wrong with that?

I always thought that Prince made a huge mistake by not bringing his 'SOTT' to the US.There was ALOT of momentum with that album,and alot of critics and fans were saying it was his best album yet.In addition,in the fall of 1987,singles like "U Got The Look" and "I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man" were climbing the Top 10 charts,while non-singles like "Hot Thing" and "Adore" were receiving tremendous airplay on R&B radio stations.If there was ever a right time to do a lengthy tour,this was it.

"the lovesexytour" it wasn't all that bad...yeah right!! it's the best thing he's ever done...

101 said:

okay..in what regards was it the best thing??? That was the 1st tour of his I ever saw and I have seen him 9 times after that, and some of those shows put the Lovesexy show to shame.

If I wanted a sermon I would have went to church, hey look I happy he found God again that's great. Just play the music we all love.

I would of love to seen the Gold Experience tour, the songs, the vibe of that era, and the F.U. to Warners Bros.

I respect your opinion of Lovesexy.

bds70 said:

How do you witness the GREATEST CONCERT... EVER!, by anyone... including Prince, and not realize it?