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Reply #30 posted 11/13/04 1:29pm

rainbowchild

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It's obvious that it's because of these radio stations who refuse to play the song but we already know that...
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



"We had fun, didn't we?"
-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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Reply #31 posted 11/13/04 4:46pm

LoveAlive

BT11 said:

MattyJam said:

Cinnamon Girl is flopping because it's weak. It's nothing new. It sounds cliched and dated.

Simple as.

Had he released ICP&C or What Do U Want Me 2 Do it would've been a different story.



Yup.



Yall are laughable to say that Cinammon Girl is not doing well because the song is not good...thats saying that the songs that are doing well on the top 40 is because they are good, stellar and groundbreaking..PLEASE!!!

is that what yall are saying??? what a joke!
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Reply #32 posted 11/13/04 4:56pm

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LoveAlive said:

BT11 said:




Yup.



Yall are laughable to say that Cinammon Girl is not doing well because the song is not good...thats saying that the songs that are doing well on the top 40 is because they are good, stellar and groundbreaking..PLEASE!!!

is that what yall are saying??? what a joke!



It's sad that Prince gets no respect these days (as always, money talks)...
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



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Reply #33 posted 11/13/04 5:09pm

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Cinnamon Girl cannot do well because of its message. Calling the War on Terror an alibi, showing a girl blowing up an airport on account of being stigmatized (even if it's only fantasy) is not going to get you a lot of airplay and rotation in 2004, especially not after Bush's win. The song quality is irrelevant -- Cinnamon Girl may not be the best song has ever written, but it's quality material in an accessible way.
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Reply #34 posted 11/13/04 5:55pm

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BT11 said:

MattyJam said:

Cinnamon Girl is flopping because it's weak. It's nothing new. It sounds cliched and dated.

Simple as.

Had he released ICP&C or What Do U Want Me 2 Do it would've been a different story.



Yup.


But ICP&C and What Do U Want Me 2 Do are nothing new either. The drum machine sound on "What Do U Want..." is so similar to "The Ballad of Dorothy Parker" from 18 years ago... and "ICP&C" sounds like many of his '90s jams. I really don't think there is anything new on "Musicology"-- it is not an innovative album. It's more focused and tightly produced than most of his albums since "The Gold Experience," but it is not innovative. It isn't really meant to be innovative, though-- I think it was meant to get him back into the mainstream public eye and show that he could still put out a well-crafted, focused album that would appeal to people outside of his hardcore fanbase.

"Cinnamon Girl" is a decent song for a single... I don't know, I don't know if Prince is really the "Top 10 hit" kind of artist anymore. Not in today's marketplace where all the good music is slept on. He is trying to do what he did in the 80s-- release songs that have his own stamp on them, but were also hits. Hence a song with a message in it. At least it still has an element of bravery in it that way. Whether or not it sells big-- does that even matter anymore? It only matters if the purpose of this album was to "sell," which I think it was. Prince wants to be an artist for art's sake while also wanting to sell millions of records. He was lucky that he was able to do this for as long as he did-- most people never can.
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Reply #35 posted 11/13/04 7:50pm

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O+> "I Just Can't Beleive,All The Things People Say"!.I'm Buying It,"Shut Up Already!Damn" Peace O+>
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Reply #36 posted 11/14/04 3:20am

TheAStarr

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I think it could be rocked up
Starrfighter
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Reply #37 posted 11/14/04 9:34am

JonSnow

had Cinnamon Girl been a quickly released 2nd single, on the heels of Musicology and when the tour was still going strong, i think it would have done much better. It's a repeat of SOTT, where Prince relesed the wrong 2nd single. But back then, he had enough commercial clout on the radio to recover from it, and U Got the Look was still a massive hit.

Alas, that is not the case today for Prince.
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Reply #38 posted 11/15/04 5:49pm

audience1

Aerogram said:

Cinnamon Girl cannot do well because of its message. Calling the War on Terror an alibi, showing a girl blowing up an airport on account of being stigmatized (even if it's only fantasy) is not going to get you a lot of airplay and rotation in 2004, especially not after Bush's win. The song quality is irrelevant -- Cinnamon Girl may not be the best song has ever written, but it's quality material in an accessible way.


You are absolutely right. Given the sad nature and politics of the election, there will be much resistance to alternative views of the War on Terror. Unfortunately, Pop radio hates to rock the boat on issues not related to sex. This is especially the case when the topic is as political as this one is. However, I think that he can still make this one of his signature protest songs that his diehard audience gets to hear whenever he tours. Kinda like our own little way of fighting the power when he's in town (if that makes any sense).

It might also help the CM cause if Prince were to appear somewhere on television and perform the song. This way, even if radio doesn't have the guts to play it, the song can still develop a solid underground following. The Tavis Smiley show... or anywhere else. Althought difficult, there are ways of Prince getting around conservative radio stations if he so chooses.
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Reply #39 posted 11/16/04 8:31am

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People I know, that are not into prince, only seem to get hooked by "Illusion Coma Pimp...."

they shrug off "cinnamon girl".
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Reply #40 posted 11/18/04 11:37pm

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howcomeudontcallme said:

Hate to say i told u so, but i knew that this single would do nothing here in the UK. Terrible song.

The
Song
Sucks!
lips
much
much
better
music
out
there
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Reply #41 posted 11/19/04 5:10am

Rhondab

sucky ass song.....
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Reply #42 posted 11/19/04 11:54am

garnis

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duggalolly said:

BT11 said:




Yup.


But ICP&C and What Do U Want Me 2 Do are nothing new either. The drum machine sound on "What Do U Want..." is so similar to "The Ballad of Dorothy Parker" from 18 years ago... and "ICP&C" sounds like many of his '90s jams. I really don't think there is anything new on "Musicology"-- it is not an innovative album. It's more focused and tightly produced than most of his albums since "The Gold Experience," but it is not innovative. It isn't really meant to be innovative, though-- I think it was meant to get him back into the mainstream public eye and show that he could still put out a well-crafted, focused album that would appeal to people outside of his hardcore fanbase.

"Cinnamon Girl" is a decent song for a single... I don't know, I don't know if Prince is really the "Top 10 hit" kind of artist anymore. Not in today's marketplace where all the good music is slept on. He is trying to do what he did in the 80s-- release songs that have his own stamp on them, but were also hits. Hence a song with a message in it. At least it still has an element of bravery in it that way. Whether or not it sells big-- does that even matter anymore? It only matters if the purpose of this album was to "sell," which I think it was. Prince wants to be an artist for art's sake while also wanting to sell millions of records. He was lucky that he was able to do this for as long as he did-- most people never can.

Get your head out of your ass please.
All the gals say hoe if your man's giving up the gold. All the fellas say ruff if you're only giving up the bone.
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Reply #43 posted 11/19/04 4:18pm

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Never cared much for the song before; I love it now!!
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



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