vainandy said:

I have the book Possessed and read it 2 and he could have said it but I don’t remember Dez saying that. And if he did he may have exaggerated on the incident. Further more the people were searched when coming into the stadium. I can’t see everyone coming in there with fruit and further more if someone was going 2 throw fruit they would have been seated on the ground level close 2 the stage and even then it would have been hard because of the security protection they have. The seating on the ground was pretty far from the stage and heavily secured with security so if they did throw fruit or whatever at him security would have stopped it immediately and thrown there ignorant asses out of there in a hurry. The Coliseum security don’t play that shit. The Coliseum is located right in the heart of the ghettos and they’re ready 2 take your ass 2 jail and u can believe a lot of people went 2 jail that 1st night. Further more it’s loaded with security and plain clothes men and undercover cops. They can’t stop the booing but they would not have allowed them 2 throw anything on stage. Half the things Hahn wrote in that book was questionable anyway. Again he could have gotten booed the 2nd night which I’m totally unaware of and I will stick 2 that story until I have actual facts and it wont be from Hahn. According 2 the L.A. Times Prince performed 3 songs the last night of that concert.

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I only read the book once and I tried to read the first part of it very slowly, paying close attention because the early years are the ones I was interested in most. I could be wrong but I do believe it states that it was Dez that said these things. One of the band members at that time said it, according to the book anyway.

I had no problem with the early part of the book until it got into the friction between Prince, Lisa, and Wendy and the alledged comments he made on their sexuality and later comments he made with Larry Graham about them also. I hope the book is unreliable also. Like I said, I read it only once over last year's Thanksgiving weekend and then gave it to a friend as a Christmas present.

Speaking of more unreliable sources, I also saw an episode of VH1's "Rock and Roll Jeapordy" and one of the contestants said he used to work security at that arena. He said when Prince opened for the Rolling Stones, the audience "began throwing things and pelted his ass".

That’s way 2 funny Vainandy! Trust and believe me if P had gotten pelted by an object thrown by someone in the audience we would have heard about it. Thanks 4 the info.

Read Dez Dickerson's book "My Time With Prince". It covers the whole story.

David1974 said:

Thanks David1974 I'll do just that

Thanks. I've been meaning to check out that book also. A friend of mine has it and I've been meaning to borrow it from him but we've both been working so hard that our paths haven't crossed recently.

David1974 said:

Oh if forgot 2 ask u is it a good read and worth purchasing?

vainandy said:

The source of 80% of the contents of this book is the previously published book Days Of Wild.

Get that instead if you want a less gossipy but far more generous account of Prince's career.


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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

Yes

Supernova said:

True, but I heard an interview conducted by the BBC regarding Prince a while back. Brown Mark (who made his live debut at this particular concert) and Dr. Fink both commented on the Rolling Stones concert. Mark even talks about being hit with a bucket of chicken on the second night, and his bass going out of tune.

Prince left the tour due to the poor audience response both nights, and not just because of the opening night. In this instance, Possessed is correct.

Wow, you had this holding up for so long - but - do we really care??? Such a looooong time ago...

great read

Keith's such a sad cliche old-school rock guitarist. And what makes it all the more satisfying is when, in the Undertaker video, Prince gets some '81 vengance and steals and totally gives rebirth to Honkey Tonk Woman, showing Keith how a fucking lead rock guitar SHOULD be played.
School's in session Keith - wipe away those tears and watch how a guitar is meant to be played...

So its not mine tipe shouting against any artist,but opening for the Stones isnt very easy for anyone.
they are a rock audience,waiting for a long time to see what they paid for so come on,would you like to see Metallica opening a Prince Musicology show?and before them another 30 minutes show of Ozzy Osborne?
Maybe i am exagerating,but for them, rock fans Prince probably looked like a skini gay mutherfoker with a ridiculous outfit.
But i loved your story anyway!

KrystleEyes said:

Stop for a moment,Keith is a very good rockguitarist,he doesant need to learn from Prince what a rock riff its all about.He created so great rifss,and if you dont know that you dont understand nothing about guitar!
I love Prince at the guitar one of my favorites,but you should respectKeith for what hes done for rock,and Keith should respct Prince.

Krid said:

I could care less whether u care or not about my story in seeing P for the first time. Check out the people that viewed this topic. This is a Prince web site. Everyone gets on this site and talk about whatever they want 2 talk about pertaining 2 him and about him, so this gave me the opportunity 2 share my story. The people I know and associate with are not into Prince so this is more than a pleasure 2 be apart of this site and communicate with P fans. So many of you are knowledgeable of him and I have the utmost respect 4 U because of that. A lot of the things people talk about on this site are from a long time ago. So what’s your point in pointing this out 2 me?

pennylover said:

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Great account of back in the day, nice one.
What other bands played that day in support?

todd305 said:

First I heard it was Prince that was hit by a piece of fruit and now its Mark Brown being hit by a bucket of chicken LOL….. U guys r way 2 funny. 1st of all you can’t just up and bring food into the coliseum during a concert event. Maybe something small, defiantly not a bucket of chicken and further more they weren’t selling chicken in the Coliseum. This is a money making business. There money is from gate sales, food and novelty stands. The food being sold at that time was and still is hot dogs, sodas in paper cups, popcorn, peanuts etc. So I find it funny that you mention what Mark Brown said about being hit with a bucket of chicken. How can u be hit with a bucket of chicken from a far distance without all the chicken falling out of the bucket? I feel there is some exaggeration put into his story. I don’t believe half the things Hahn said about P anyway. Hahn didn’t paint a good picture of P imop. Was Dr Fink with them at the time? Further more u guys have proved your point in him being booed twice, but some of your witnesses have left me with doubts about there experiences during that time.
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Dr. Fink was with Prince from the very beginning. I've heard several versions of the story also. Some sound reasonable and some sound far fetched. As far as the possibility of fruit and other items being snuck into the arena, that is 100% possible. Look at all the drugs and alcohol that are snuck in. As for security not allowing the throwing, a few security guards and policemen cannot control an angry mob.

As far as which version is true, I don't know because I wasn't there. But it is very possible to sneak items in and it also possible to throw them in the presence of security.

pennylover said:

You are right - sorry,!!!

No, I don't think the booing in the beginning of "Pop Life" is from that Stones concert. I think that came from a sound effects album, maybe even the same one (or same series) that contained the baby laugh in "Delirious".

pennylover said:

It was not a bucket of chicken it was a bag of raw chicken parts. Remember this was a sports arena in 1981 where people are used to tailgaiting in the parking lot. So it's not hard to imagine where the food came from.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

This is going 2 far! Raw chicken? Please! Don’t believe everything u hear. I know all about the tailgating parties in the parking lot the whole bit. I worked 2 many Raider football games and there’s nothing more rowdy than Raider fans. The Rolling Stones fans were meek kittens compared 2 them. The chicken story is a bit 2 much for me, that’s goes 2 show u how stories get so freakin twisted. No it was not a sports arena, capacity crowd 18,000. Read the thread it was the Coliseum, capacity crowd 100,000. Enough said!

Krid said:

Besides, time is a trick! (see Purple Rain Rave Un2 The Year 2000)

I'm a tad that you didn't give me a heads up that you had finally posted this.
But that's cool. The point is that you finally did it.

I was there on the floor of the Coliseum, don't remember which show, but the booing did occur. I seem to think the order of acts was different (George Thorogood and The J.Geils Band) but it's been over 20 years. This my recollection of what happened distortions and all. He went into Jack U Off and at some point in the tune asked for audience participation. Something to the effect of "When I count 3, I want you to say Jack Me Off." The 1st time he did this, the 100K plus crowd roared back at him "FUCK YOU". I guess this was an indication of how unseasoned he was at the time because to my amazement he tried it again. Another "FUCK YOU" was received. This caused him to leave the stage in a huff. At this point the promoter, Bill Graham came out and gave the crowd a tongue-lashing about having respect for an artist that was trying to perform. Prince came back onstage but the crowd was not having it. Amidst more catcalls and booing, he exited the stage for good. During one of these exits, the Hohner was slammed to the floor of the stage.

Your description of the crowd's inebriated temperament was right on point.
Don't know if you remember the Floor vs. Stands ice fight.

Your analysis as to why the booing occurred is probably accurate.
I'd add that for this particular crowd, including a relatively unknown funk/rock act like Prince with more familiar (to them) blues based acts like George Thorogood, J.Geils and the Stones, was more than their tripping, sun-stroked, pot-baked, "We want the Stones now" minds could handle.
Bill Graham used to put on shows featuring divergent acts all the time at the Fillmore East in NYC.



This has always been an interesting observation to me as I also attended 2 of those Forum shows and was tempted to ask some of the folks sitting around me if they had been at the Coliseum shows in '81 and what their impressions were.

To me it was just another indication of the fickle trend-following L.A. music scene in general.

Great story Little Miss Lover.

tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm

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theAudience said:

Thank u theAudience! U r way 2 kind. I’m glad u answered this thread. You did a great job of recapturing the moment. I wanted 2 hear from someone like yourself who was actually there. I enjoyed hearing your story. You were able 2 tell a more accurate account of the booing than I did. It’s totally different when you’re attending an event apposed 2 working one. I tried my best to recapture the moment and share my story with all. U did a great job and I do appreciate it. I could never tell the line up because I never even head of those other performers, only the Stones and P. There was a lot going on that day and night so yes I could very well see them having ice fights in the stands. I will never forget his last words 2 them “Go Jack Off”. By the way my dear one “were u one of the ones booing our man” (Smile).

pennylover said:

My pleasure.
I've run into very few folks here that were at that historic performance so it was a welcomed surprise to run into you.
It was quite a day indeed.

And NO I was not one of the booing hordes.
I was actually quite stunned.

Btw, at the Forum shows, I always wished I was one of the dudes Sheila E. called up to sit in "the chair".
One of the cats got so "excited" (wink,wink) that he had to wait a while before he could get up and leave the stage.

See ya at the next show!

tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm

pennylover said:

Tell that to Matt Fink. He was the one who said a bag of raw chicken parts was thrown at them. Since he was actually on the stage I think he might know.

WOW!!! awesome story!!!! thanks so much for telling it!! got anymore?