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Thread started 10/29/04 11:38am

blackboab

SIGN O THE TIMES CONCERT DVD...ANY GOOD?

i saw a sign o the times dvd in fopp records...i think its the dutch version...anyone tell me if its worth getting...what is the quality like?..
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...and on the subject of dvds, what about a dvd version of 3 chains o gold, i really enjoyed watching that.
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Reply #1 posted 10/29/04 11:53am

Lennon

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blackboab said:

i saw a sign o the times dvd in fopp records...i think its the dutch version...anyone tell me if its worth getting...what is the quality like?..
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...and on the subject of dvds, what about a dvd version of 3 chains o gold, i really enjoyed watching that.


It is not a remaster or something, i think it is a copy of the laserdisc.... I like it though... It depends on how you like the video...
I bought it not immediatley, but later (when it was 5 euro's)
The cover says it is in 5:1.... but I think that is a little bit of a lie...

It's your own choice, but if you are a true fan, quality doesn't matter??? lol

It is not that bad anyway.....Just not digitally remastered....so what? I'd say go and get it!
the beautiful ones, you always seem to loose
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Reply #2 posted 10/30/04 12:52pm

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The dutch DVD is a copy of the VHS ...
with a lot of disturbances / little light dots

The speed is too fast ....
I really can't watch it!!!

SAVE YOUR MONEY
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Reply #3 posted 10/30/04 2:50pm

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sad It's bad. I have the Laserdisc version to compare it to and I confirm it is too fast and of questionable quality. I do not understand that this was released...
"In Funk We Thrust" - Bootsy Collins
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Reply #4 posted 10/30/04 5:31pm

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blackboab said:

i saw a sign o the times dvd in fopp records...i think its the dutch version...anyone tell me if its worth getting...what is the quality like?..
...
...and on the subject of dvds, what about a dvd version of 3 chains o gold, i really enjoyed watching that.



Hmmm .. well it is just ok.. the quality is pretty bad.. although if your a real fan then i suppose that wouldnt really matter ey!
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Reply #5 posted 10/31/04 5:10am

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i like it !

the surround sound is nice. eventhough it is not mixed very well (the guitar is quite low sometimes, as well as his voice), it brings some sounds to the foreground which are great to listen to.

like HOT THING.

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yes SIR!
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Reply #6 posted 10/31/04 5:16pm

Tonylover

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i like it !

the surround sound is nice. eventhough it is not mixed very well (the guitar is quite low sometimes, as well as his voice), it brings some sounds to the foreground which are great to listen to.

like HOT THING.

headbang


I know hot thing is just 2 good to be true.. an his dancing is 2 sexc.. OMG..
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Reply #7 posted 11/05/04 6:07am

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I like it 'cuz that DVD is a better quality than the video.Thanx to some orgers,now I know they did a lot of overdubs.I wanted to know if he was singin' live in e.g. Hot Thing and Beautiful night (take a good look.),he isn't...
It's something I can't get out of my head,''cuz at least they should have mentioned that on the cover of the DVD.I loooove the 'forever in my life/It'version,but now I know he might have sung it again and dubbed it over the origional takes,and that's not LIVE,folks!
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Reply #8 posted 11/05/04 6:10am

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By the way,anybody in Holland remembers the world premiere of the film in Rotterdam?A lot of people were dancing during the film!It was great and something I have never experienced again,and I don't think I ever will again...
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Reply #9 posted 11/06/04 1:14am

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jkj10 said:

I like it 'cuz that DVD is a better quality than the video.Thanx to some orgers,now I know they did a lot of overdubs.I wanted to know if he was singin' live in e.g. Hot Thing and Beautiful night (take a good look.),he isn't...
It's something I can't get out of my head,''cuz at least they should have mentioned that on the cover of the DVD.I loooove the 'forever in my life/It'version,but now I know he might have sung it again and dubbed it over the origional takes,and that's not LIVE,folks!


From what I understand, in order to get a more polished looking film they shot alot of the footage on the stage at paisley park, with prince and the band miming to the previously recorded audio from the live concert (Thats why you don't see many shots showing the whole audience.) There is definitely some dubbing of vocals, especially in "Its Gonna be a Beautiful Night", but its likely that alot of the lip syncing problems are due to the reshooting. Also, I think the genuine live concert footage (of which there is some) is cut together from two or three different nights while the audio is from just one, again resulting in a few obvious "syncing" problems.

So, yes, they're stretching the meaning of "live" in several ways. But, luckily, we fans who've seen him live know that all that audio/video trickery isn't employed to cover up a second-rate performance ( as it has been with many other performers), instead its an attempt by the film makers to communicate the joy, the excitment, the sheer genius of a Prince performance via a fairly restrictive format. For this, I forgive them.....Amen

Of course I may be completely wrong. I'm sure some of the more rabid orgers well correct me if I am.

Peace etc.
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Reply #10 posted 11/07/04 1:24am

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SDNafka said:

jkj10 said:

I like it 'cuz that DVD is a better quality than the video.Thanx to some orgers,now I know they did a lot of overdubs.I wanted to know if he was singin' live in e.g. Hot Thing and Beautiful night (take a good look.),he isn't...
It's something I can't get out of my head,''cuz at least they should have mentioned that on the cover of the DVD.I loooove the 'forever in my life/It'version,but now I know he might have sung it again and dubbed it over the origional takes,and that's not LIVE,folks!


From what I understand, in order to get a more polished looking film they shot alot of the footage on the stage at paisley park, with prince and the band miming to the previously recorded audio from the live concert (Thats why you don't see many shots showing the whole audience.) There is definitely some dubbing of vocals, especially in "Its Gonna be a Beautiful Night", but its likely that alot of the lip syncing problems are due to the reshooting. Also, I think the genuine live concert footage (of which there is some) is cut together from two or three different nights while the audio is from just one, again resulting in a few obvious "syncing" problems.

So, yes, they're stretching the meaning of "live" in several ways. But, luckily, we fans who've seen him live know that all that audio/video trickery isn't employed to cover up a second-rate performance ( as it has been with many other performers), instead its an attempt by the film makers to communicate the joy, the excitment, the sheer genius of a Prince performance via a fairly restrictive format. For this, I forgive them.....Amen

Of course I may be completely wrong. I'm sure some of the more rabid orgers well correct me if I am.

Peace etc.



I'll accept that explanation..seems reasonable enough...

But then again who am I?
"..Just close your eyes and count to 10...and when U open 'em I'll B standing naked with nuthin' but a SMILE on.."
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Reply #11 posted 11/08/04 7:47am

jkj10

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SDNafka said:

jkj10 said:

I like it 'cuz that DVD is a better quality than the video.Thanx to some orgers,now I know they did a lot of overdubs.I wanted to know if he was singin' live in e.g. Hot Thing and Beautiful night (take a good look.),he isn't...
It's something I can't get out of my head,''cuz at least they should have mentioned that on the cover of the DVD.I loooove the 'forever in my life/It'version,but now I know he might have sung it again and dubbed it over the origional takes,and that's not LIVE,folks!


From what I understand, in order to get a more polished looking film they shot alot of the footage on the stage at paisley park, with prince and the band miming to the previously recorded audio from the live concert (Thats why you don't see many shots showing the whole audience.) There is definitely some dubbing of vocals, especially in "Its Gonna be a Beautiful Night", but its likely that alot of the lip syncing problems are due to the reshooting. Also, I think the genuine live concert footage (of which there is some) is cut together from two or three different nights while the audio is from just one, again resulting in a few obvious "syncing" problems.

So, yes, they're stretching the meaning of "live" in several ways. But, luckily, we fans who've seen him live know that all that audio/video trickery isn't employed to cover up a second-rate performance ( as it has been with many other performers), instead its an attempt by the film makers to communicate the joy, the excitment, the sheer genius of a Prince performance via a fairly restrictive format. For this, I forgive them.....Amen

Of course I may be completely wrong. I'm sure some of the more rabid orgers well correct me if I am.

Peace etc.

From now on I'll have a different look at the DVD,it sounds acceptable...
Thanx for this new info,though I still think they could have done a better job,making a DVD of one of the best tours I've ever seen!...
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