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Printableshit...would lenny and ttd even be able to perform....I could see them  over Prince.....[Edited 11/1/04 2:09am] | |
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I've seen Lenny perform last summer and he's grown as a live artist. It was an incredible show he gave at a festival in Belgium. Even the peepz who didn't like him were dancing and singing along. He doesn't come close to Prince but he's made some great music and knows how to perform. I especcially like his first album Let Love Rule and 5.
TTD is one of the greatest musicians alive and has a much better voice than Prince has. I love Prince's work since his first album (For You 1978), I also love TTD's work since his first one (Love on Time 1984, later released as the Early Works). As an artist I believe Prince is the best ever, as a singer he doesn't have the quality of TTD. [Edited 10/30/04 10:23am] | |
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MonkeySpunk said: What a joke - Lenny's a corperate nigga, and a total wannabe. In no way shape or form should he compare himself to Prince. What a deluded soul he is! Not the same ballpark, not even the same city.
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GertjandeR said: TTD is one of the greatest musicians alive and has a much better voice than Prince has. Then why has his career bombed so much????? How come he is not as acknowledge as Prince??? Personally, I think TTD is a poser! [Edited 10/30/04 10:41am] | |
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abierman said: GertjandeR said: TTD is one of the greatest musicians alive and has a much better voice than Prince has. Then why has his career bombed so much????? How come he is not as acknowledge as Prince??? Personally, I think TTD is a poser! [Edited 10/30/04 10:41am] Terence has just as much genious. He is a poet and has a better way with words. His symbolism in his music will rival Prince or Lenny. And his vocal capability is also quite superior to theirs. Prince's instrumental capability's are way better than Lenny or TTD. In reference to Lenny, I liked his earlier commitments to musical grittiness as displayed in his earlier albums. But I guess it is all personal apples and oranges people. The reason why TTD isn't doing as well in the states is due to our BIG BROTHA policy! If you don't know what it is you better go ask somebody. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: raveon2tnek said: lenny, prince and ttd should record an album 2gether!
what do u think? i think not.   
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Lenny Kravitz, get your head out of your ass!!! You aren't even close to Prince, nor do I think you EVER will be. You're Fired!!!!! All the gals say hoe if your man's giving up the gold. All the fellas say ruff if you're only giving up the bone. | |
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jojofran said: The reason why TTD isn't doing as well in the states is due to our BIG BROTHA policy! If you don't know what it is you better go ask somebody.
Oh come on.....the real reason ist that TTD, when he came on the scene, presented himself as a pompous asshole. Telling anybody who wanted to listen that he was going to be better than Prince, James Brown and whoever....and then came his Flesh/Fish-album..... 
he's got attitude-issues.....and his work doesn't impress me! [Edited 10/30/04 18:43pm] | |
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i dug lenny until i saw him two years ago in concert, it seemed like one long single, just the same riffs after the other, i have soured on him a little, he might suprise me one day and release something experimentally creative, but i dig his praise of Prince | |
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jojofran said: abierman said: Then why has his career bombed so much????? How come he is not as acknowledge as Prince??? Personally, I think TTD is a poser! [Edited 10/30/04 10:41am] Terence has just as much genious. He is a poet and has a better way with words. His symbolism in his music will rival Prince or Lenny. And his vocal capability is also quite superior to theirs. Prince's instrumental capability's are way better than Lenny or TTD. In reference to Lenny, I liked his earlier commitments to musical grittiness as displayed in his earlier albums. But I guess it is all personal apples and oranges people. The reason why TTD isn't doing as well in the states is due to our BIG BROTHA policy! If you don't know what it is you better go ask somebody. oh. i thought it was because he turned out to be such an ass 5 minutes after he became famous.  "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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GrayKing said: jojofran said: Terence has just as much genious. He is a poet and has a better way with words. His symbolism in his music will rival Prince or Lenny. And his vocal capability is also quite superior to theirs. Prince's instrumental capability's are way better than Lenny or TTD. In reference to Lenny, I liked his earlier commitments to musical grittiness as displayed in his earlier albums. But I guess it is all personal apples and oranges people. The reason why TTD isn't doing as well in the states is due to our BIG BROTHA policy! If you don't know what it is you better go ask somebody. oh. i thought it was because he turned out to be such an ass 5 minutes after he became famous. EXACTLY!!!!  | |
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GertjandeR said: This is a translation from Dutch to English so there might appear some errors in the translation or spelling. I only translated the part where he mentiones Prince and Terence Trent D'Arby.
What they think and say about me, they also say about Prince. A lot of people say about Prince he's had his best years and doesn't have any inspiration anymore, he can't do it anymore. But when you visit a performance of his or my group, you'll see that no-one plays better than our bands. People talk a lot shit, but look at Prince for what he is. He's a genious and an amazing musician. How can you be blind for that? Nobody can outdo him. NOBODY!!! All those bands that are so hot at the moment, wouldn't even dare to crawl up the stage to play with him! Just last night I talked to him. We are commited souls. We support eachother, it's neccesary in this business. He called me to encourage me and said things due to which I feld good. We've got lots of respect for eachother. We are musicians, true musicians. I feel the same connection with Terence Trent D'Arby. I spoke with him recently, he's just finished his new album to which I'm very curious. I'm sure it's a great album. To know that you've only got to put on his previous albums. Do you still hear music like that nowadays? Well, I don't. He's got an amazing voice, really in the order of Sam Cooke, Marvin Gaye or Stevie Wonder. It seems like if he's touched by the mercy of God, on a way which you can only hear back with Aretha Franklin in her best, classical work. You know what connects us? Soul. Soul is something you have or don't have. You can't fake it. But more then the half of the artists on this earth don't have it and pretend if they do. They miss personality. I consider making music really as a mission, and that's something those people don't have. Lenny Kravitz needs to stop acting like he is in the same league as Prince just because he's friendly with him. He's doing all this whinning because he knows he is limited musically and creatively and people aren't buying that "I'm the only great black sexy rock god" crap anymore. He stopped challenging himself musically years ago because he got caught up in his own hype. He's not even in the same league as TDD, and I'm not even a TDD fan anymore. | |
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I know Lenny and Prince and Maxwell are Gemini's.Is TTD a Gemini?Just curious. larry luvlife
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abierman said: GrayKing said: oh. i thought it was because he turned out to be such an ass 5 minutes after he became famous. EXACTLY!!!! TDD would have had a great career in the states if he kept mouth shut and just did his music. That's why I got turned off to him. Bragging to much, and he barely had a career. | |
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jojofran said: abierman said: Then why has his career bombed so much????? How come he is not as acknowledge as Prince??? Personally, I think TTD is a poser! [Edited 10/30/04 10:41am] Terence has just as much genious. He is a poet and has a better way with words. His symbolism in his music will rival Prince or Lenny. And his vocal capability is also quite superior to theirs. Prince's instrumental capability's are way better than Lenny or TTD. In reference to Lenny, I liked his earlier commitments to musical grittiness as displayed in his earlier albums. But I guess it is all personal apples and oranges people. The reason why TTD isn't doing as well in the states is due to our BIG BROTHA policy! If you don't know what it is you better go ask somebody. YOU SAID IT!! | |
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larryluvlife said: I know Lenny and Prince and Maxwell are Gemini's.Is TTD a Gemini?Just curious.
No, he is pisces With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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lbadored said: jojofran said: Terence has just as much genious. He is a poet and has a better way with words. His symbolism in his music will rival Prince or Lenny. And his vocal capability is also quite superior to theirs. Prince's instrumental capability's are way better than Lenny or TTD. In reference to Lenny, I liked his earlier commitments to musical grittiness as displayed in his earlier albums. But I guess it is all personal apples and oranges people. The reason why TTD isn't doing as well in the states is due to our BIG BROTHA policy! If you don't know what it is you better go ask somebody. YOU SAID IT!! Yep, well said. I choose the music I listen to by the quality of the songs and not the number of records sold . That's the reason why I don't listen to people like Britney Spears, but to Sananda, who contrary to Prince and Lenny Kravitz, who both have not impressed me a lot in recent years with their music, is still making brilliant records  .
And all you people who can't get over the fact that Sananda nearly 20 years ago made some tongue in cheek comments about having made the best debut album ever: don't forget that we all are fans of an artist (Prince) who has a history of being an complete ass without having any respect for his fans. I would be very happy if some comments he made in the 80s were the only stupid and embarrassing things Prince did in his career  .With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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Serious said: Sananda nearly 20 years ago made some tongue in cheek comments about having made the best debut album ever: .
with his head in his ass | |
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abierman said: jojofran said: The reason why TTD isn't doing as well in the states is due to our BIG BROTHA policy! If you don't know what it is you better go ask somebody.
Oh come on.....the real reason ist that TTD, when he came on the scene, presented himself as a pompous asshole. Telling anybody who wanted to listen that he was going to be better than Prince, James Brown and whoever....and then came his Flesh/Fish-album.....
he's got attitude-issues.....and his work doesn't impress me! [Edited 10/30/04 18:43pm] Yet, somehow he manages. |
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Serious said: lbadored said: YOU SAID IT!! Yep, well said. I choose the music I listen to by the quality of the songs and not the number of records sold . That's the reason why I don't listen to people like Britney Spears, but to Sananda, who contrary to Prince and Lenny Kravitz, who both have not impressed me a lot in recent years with their music, is still making brilliant records .
And all you people who can't get over the fact that Sananda nearly 20 years ago made some tongue in cheek comments about having made the best debut album ever: don't forget that we all are fans of an artist (Prince) who has a history of being an complete ass without having any respect for his fans. I would be very happy if some comments he made in the 80s were the only stupid and embarrassing things Prince did in his career .What Serious said. | |
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ThreadBare said: Serious said: Yep, well said. I choose the music I listen to by the quality of the songs and not the number of records sold . That's the reason why I don't listen to people like Britney Spears, but to Sananda, who contrary to Prince and Lenny Kravitz, who both have not impressed me a lot in recent years with their music, is still making brilliant records .
And all you people who can't get over the fact that Sananda nearly 20 years ago made some tongue in cheek comments about having made the best debut album ever: don't forget that we all are fans of an artist (Prince) who has a history of being an complete ass without having any respect for his fans. I would be very happy if some comments he made in the 80s were the only stupid and embarrassing things Prince did in his career .What Serious said. Co-sign. I know that their will people such as yourself who can see beyond tiny "incidents" rather then tar and feather a person for the rest of their lives for a misunderstanding. The fact is that he has explained countless of times that he was fooling around and didn't ponder people taking him that serious. He was joking! He retracted his statements in many interviews and tried to clear the air prior to the "Fish or Flesh" album and many times afterwards. Why should someone continuously apologize over and over again for the same thing? His music speaks for himself nowadays. He is one of the most underated artist out there. Any serious musician will be able to confirm this.[Edited 10/31/04 8:52am] | |
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abierman said: GertjandeR said: TTD is one of the greatest musicians alive and has a much better voice than Prince has. Then why has his career bombed so much????? How come he is not as acknowledge as Prince??? Personally, I think TTD is a poser! [Edited 10/30/04 10:41am] I also said: GertjandeR said: As an artist I believe Prince is the best ever, as a singer he doesn't have the quality of TTD.
The reason why his career isn't the way it should have been considering his talents, is because the critics slashed his second album. His second album was way up it's time. When you listen to it these days you might enjoy it, most people couldn't handle it at that time. | |
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abierman said: jojofran said: The reason why TTD isn't doing as well in the states is due to our BIG BROTHA policy! If you don't know what it is you better go ask somebody.
Oh come on.....the real reason ist that TTD, when he came on the scene, presented himself as a pompous asshole. Telling anybody who wanted to listen that he was going to be better than Prince, James Brown and whoever....and then came his Flesh/Fish-album.....
he's got attitude-issues.....and his work doesn't impress me! [Edited 10/30/04 18:43pm] He never said he was the new Prince or that he was going to be better than Prince, James Brown and however. His recordlabel at that time (Sony) announced him as the new Prince, he had nothing to do with that. He always made it clear he's got the upmost respect and admiration for Prince, James Brown, Neil Young, Bruce Springsteen, Sam Cooke, Mozart, Beethoven, Miles Davis and many others. The NFNF album is one of his greatest according to me, unfortunatly most of the musiccritics weren't that open minded for new things. They couldn't handle the great things he was doing on that album, so they broke him down in their columns. The real musiclovers should have heard the great things he was doing, like Prince and Bruce Springsteen heard. I guess you've got to stand open for new things. I admit he had some attitude problems back in the day, but he was still very young.Prince still got attitude problems and he isn't that young anymore. That his work doesn't impress you tells more about you than about his work. You don't have to like what he does but everybody can hear he's a great artist, whether you like it or not. | |
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Sananda, TTD is an amazing artist. Album for album I think he's a better artist than Prince but that's just me. Lenny is nowhere near in league with Prince or TTD | |
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jacktheimprovident said: Sananda, TTD is an amazing artist. Album for album I think he's a better artist than Prince but that's just me. Lenny is nowhere near in league with Prince or TTD
You may be right - album for album.How many albums has TTD done? 5? 6?. Now take 5 or 6 of Princes albums of your choice and ask do they stand up to each other? Or better still, take princes body of work, choose material to make 5 or 6 albums and then compare. No comparison! Prince has done so much that we all recognise that quantity isn't always quality. However we all know that within his work there is more genious than on any of TTD's albums. --------------------------------------------------
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steelyd said: GertjandeR said: This is a translation from Dutch to English so there might appear some errors in the translation or spelling. I only translated the part where he mentiones Prince and Terence Trent D'Arby.
What they think and say about me, they also say about Prince. A lot of people say about Prince he's had his best years and doesn't have any inspiration anymore, he can't do it anymore. But when you visit a performance of his or my group, you'll see that no-one plays better than our bands. People talk a lot shit, but look at Prince for what he is. He's a genious and an amazing musician. How can you be blind for that? Nobody can outdo him. NOBODY!!! All those bands that are so hot at the moment, wouldn't even dare to crawl up the stage to play with him! Just last night I talked to him. We are commited souls. We support eachother, it's neccesary in this business. He called me to encourage me and said things due to which I feld good. We've got lots of respect for eachother. We are musicians, true musicians. I feel the same connection with Terence Trent D'Arby. I spoke with him recently, he's just finished his new album to which I'm very curious. I'm sure it's a great album. To know that you've only got to put on his previous albums. Do you still hear music like that nowadays? Well, I don't. He's got an amazing voice, really in the order of Sam Cooke, Marvin Gaye or Stevie Wonder. It seems like if he's touched by the mercy of God, on a way which you can only hear back with Aretha Franklin in her best, classical work. You know what connects us? Soul. Soul is something you have or don't have. You can't fake it. But more then the half of the artists on this earth don't have it and pretend if they do. They miss personality. I consider making music really as a mission, and that's something those people don't have. Lenny Kravitz needs to stop acting like he is in the same league as Prince just because he's friendly with him. He's doing all this whinning because he knows he is limited musically and creatively and people aren't buying that "I'm the only great black sexy rock god" crap anymore. He stopped challenging himself musically years ago because he got caught up in his own hype. He's not even in the same league as TDD, and I'm not even a TDD fan anymore. Exactly! Lenny likes to think that he is this great,amazing musician but the truth is,his music is bland and un-original.Everytimn I hear one of his songs,it always sounds like something I already heard....decades ago.He is nowhere NEAR Prince's league. | |
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Come2getheras1 said: jacktheimprovident said: Sananda, TTD is an amazing artist. Album for album I think he's a better artist than Prince but that's just me. Lenny is nowhere near in league with Prince or TTD
You may be right - album for album.How many albums has TTD done? 5? 6?. Now take 5 or 6 of Princes albums of your choice and ask do they stand up to each other? Or better still, take princes body of work, choose material to make 5 or 6 albums and then compare. No comparison! Prince has done so much that we all recognise that quantity isn't always quality. However we all know that within his work there is more genious than on any of TTD's albums.  I respect your opinion that you think more of Prince's work is genius than of Sananda's , but you cannot speak for others as it is just your personal opinion. If I'd take all song by Sananda I know (albums, b-sides, downloads from his site) and compare them to the same number of songs by Prince taken from all songs I've ever heard by him (albums, b-sides, loads of outtakes) and I choose the Prince songs I love most I'd end up with at least as many songs I'd consider genious by Sananda.With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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MonkeySpunk said: What a joke - Lenny's a corperate nigga, and a total wannabe. In no way shape or form should he compare himself to Prince. What a deluded soul he is! Not the same ballpark, not even the same city.
Good lord almighty. What an harsh oppinon you've got there. Corporate nigga!!! Me thinks you are a bit arrogant there... I am sure that you think nobody should compare himself to Prince, cause he is your one and only idol (and surely you are deeply convinced that everything Prince does is touched by magic...) |
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Come2getheras1 said: jacktheimprovident said: Sananda, TTD is an amazing artist. Album for album I think he's a better artist than Prince but that's just me. Lenny is nowhere near in league with Prince or TTD
You may be right - album for album.How many albums has TTD done? 5? 6?. Now take 5 or 6 of Princes albums of your choice and ask do they stand up to each other? Or better still, take princes body of work, choose material to make 5 or 6 albums and then compare. No comparison! Prince has done so much that we all recognise that quantity isn't always quality. However we all know that within his work there is more genious than on any of TTD's albums. Also counting Love On Time from 1984 (re-released in 1989 under the name "Early Works" with more songs on it), he's got 6 albums. When counting the double CD Greatest Hits, he comes on 7 albums. The Greatest Hits album includes some of his B-sides and other rare tracks. He's done quite some songs on other peoples albums and several songs on Soundtracks. He also gives away lots of free downloads at his site. I like all Sananda (TTD) songs, I like most of Prince's songs. I'm more a Prince fan but Sananda is second on my favourite list.When it comes to geniality, TTD has proven his geniality with all his albums especcially with Neither Fish Nor Flesh (1989). I'm not saying he's more a genious than Prince, but he also isn't less genious. | |
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MonkeySpunk said: What a joke - Lenny's a corperate nigga, and a total wannabe. In no way shape or form should he compare himself to Prince.
What a deluded soul he is! Not the same ballpark, not even the same city. CO-SIGN!!  | |
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