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Thread started 10/25/04 11:05pm

MrSquiggle

Why do people hate on "1999: The New Master"?

I just got it, it's so funky!! What the hell do you people think is wrong with it?
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Reply #1 posted 10/25/04 11:14pm

asylum

it is simply not the original, mr. squiggle.

hans also feels it should be packaged with moist towlettes.
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Reply #2 posted 10/25/04 11:16pm

Anxiety

where do i begin? with doug e. fresh or with the rosario dawson dramatic interpretation? ill
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Reply #3 posted 10/25/04 11:43pm

vainandy

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I like the first track on the CD. It could have been better but it serves it's purpose of putting a little modern twist to the song so it will fit in well with a good mix on a modern dance floor.

I don't care for the other versions on the CD. They stray too far from the original. I like a remix to sound pretty much like the original but have a little something extra like an extended loop when the song breaks down with a little something extra mixed in...maybe the beat from another song mixed over the loop or a particular word of phrase mixed over both beats. I've heard DJ mixes of "1999" that are much better than Prince's "The New Master".
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #4 posted 10/26/04 2:21am

NWF

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It might've been cool then, but it certainly ain't cool now.
NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.
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Reply #5 posted 10/26/04 3:02am

Thirdeye

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This just might be the worst thing in my collection even worse than NPS. but at least its a pretty purple colour.
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Reply #6 posted 10/26/04 3:07am

NouveauDance

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"Why do people hate on "1999: The New Master"?"

Erm, to state the obvious - it's utter shit, in every possible way.
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Reply #7 posted 10/26/04 3:18am

mozfonky

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It was a halfhearted attempt to capitalize on the year. If Prince were serious about a comeback then, he would have went about it differently.
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Reply #8 posted 10/26/04 3:42am

metalorange

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I've always said, as a song on it's own, it would have been okay, but in comparison to the great original, it falls flat. The original had a timeless, classic quality - the new version was very much anchored to that particular time in Prince's career, the dreaded NPS era, when his music didn't have a live, earthy feel to them, and especially with all the guests who were 'in' for that brief period only.

As well, the original had that massive epic 'wall of sound' feel to it, whereas the new one is made to feel like just some party song.

It's hard to remake perfection. Prince would have been better off just improving the sound and mix.
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Reply #9 posted 10/26/04 3:49am

vainandy

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metalorange said

It's hard to remake perfection.


Now that's VERY true! biggrin
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #10 posted 10/26/04 3:57am

NWF

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Exactly. nod
NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.
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Reply #11 posted 10/26/04 4:01am

TheFrog

it's diabolical.

i had nothing to do with the org when i bought it, and didn't know a single person who even liked prince's music past the sort of kiss / purple rain level, and so i had no idea what to expect.

i can honestly say it's the worst piece of work by prince i've ever actually paid for*. neutral





* i stole Kama Sutra.
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Reply #12 posted 10/26/04 4:07am

MrSquiggle

TheFrog said:


i can honestly say it's the worst piece of work by prince i've ever actually paid for. neutral


Really? I actually think it makes for better listening than the original "1999" LP.
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Reply #13 posted 10/26/04 4:07am

AndGodCreatedM
e

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TheFrog said:

it's diabolical.

i had nothing to do with the org when i bought it, and didn't know a single person who even liked prince's music past the sort of kiss / purple rain level, and so i had no idea what to expect.

i can honestly say it's the worst piece of work by prince i've ever actually paid for*. neutral





* i stole Kama Sutra.


disbelief

Lord some ppl can be so ignorant sad

Still love you Froggie hug
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Reply #14 posted 10/26/04 4:14am

TheFrog

AndGodCreatedMe said:

TheFrog said:

it's diabolical.

i had nothing to do with the org when i bought it, and didn't know a single person who even liked prince's music past the sort of kiss / purple rain level, and so i had no idea what to expect.

i can honestly say it's the worst piece of work by prince i've ever actually paid for*. neutral





* i stole Kama Sutra.


disbelief

Lord some ppl can be so ignorant sad

Still love you Froggie hug


omfg don't tell me you dig The New Master?

Oh deary me. disbelief

you poor, poor thing AGCM. comfort God bless, and i'll pray for you. pray
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Reply #15 posted 10/26/04 4:18am

AndGodCreatedM
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TheFrog said:

AndGodCreatedMe said:



disbelief

Lord some ppl can be so ignorant sad

Still love you Froggie hug


omfg don't tell me you dig The New Master?

Oh deary me. disbelief

you poor, poor thing AGCM. comfort God bless, and i'll pray for you. pray



mad


I like it nod just like i like Juice neutral




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Reply #16 posted 10/26/04 4:23am

subhuman09

One time I saw this dog that could talk.

It told me the secret of life and we talked a little bit, shooting the breeze until the breeze fired back and we had to run. We scaled the trees as we went towards the highest hill we could find.

We spoke of why the world wasn't as tuned in to their surroundings as we were, and how things could change.

I told my talking dog friend (who I believe was named Rufus) about Prince. He asked if I had heard the New Master. I said I hadn't but asked him what he thought.

He told me he loved it and then I woke up.

I realized that I hit my head on the wall and dreamed the entire thing-why?

Because even a dog would know that it's a piece of shit.

confused
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Reply #17 posted 10/26/04 6:30am

sexxi

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MrSquiggle said:

TheFrog said:


i can honestly say it's the worst piece of work by prince i've ever actually paid for. neutral


Really? I actually think it makes for better listening than the original "1999" LP.

stop baiting people dude,you are soooo obvious.
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Reply #18 posted 10/26/04 6:32am

Handclapsfinga
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MrSquiggle said:

I just got it, it's so funky!!

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Reply #19 posted 10/26/04 9:58am

BinaryJustin

The only thing it's good for, is displaying as evidence when people want to compare:

01) The 80s and Lisa's contribution,
02) The 90s and Rosie Gaines' man-sized lungs.
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Reply #20 posted 10/26/04 12:00pm

bananacologne

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The only thing it's good for, is displaying as evidence when people want to compare:

01) The 80s and Lisa's contribution,
02) The 90s and Rosie Gaines' man-sized lungs.


falloff
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Reply #21 posted 10/26/04 1:21pm

mrdespues

i don't know if you're kidding or not, mrsquiggle, but i for one think the title track at least is a really good remake.

not a patch on the original, but there was some good work done to update it in my opinion.

but then, i'm a cheesy bastard.

shrug
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Reply #22 posted 10/26/04 1:27pm

dualboot

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MrSquiggle said:

TheFrog said:


i can honestly say it's the worst piece of work by prince i've ever actually paid for. neutral


Really? I actually think it makes for better listening than the original "1999" LP.


eek May I ask what your age is?
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Reply #23 posted 10/26/04 2:54pm

MrSquiggle

dualboot said:

MrSquiggle said:



Really? I actually think it makes for better listening than the original "1999" LP.


eek May I ask what your age is?


14. And I'm not baiting. I hate the "1999" LP. It's a great album destroyed by mammoth tracklengths dominated by synthy instrumentals. The New Master is considerably more fun to listen to. Keep Steppin and Deep House are basically entirely new tracks, all funky in their own.
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Reply #24 posted 10/26/04 3:11pm

mrdespues

MrSquiggle said:

dualboot said:



eek May I ask what your age is?


14. And I'm not baiting. I hate the "1999" LP. It's a great album destroyed by mammoth tracklengths dominated by synthy instrumentals. The New Master is considerably more fun to listen to. Keep Steppin and Deep House are basically entirely new tracks, all funky in their own.


eek

Wait ten years man and see whether you still prefer the New Master to the original.
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Reply #25 posted 10/26/04 3:20pm

thekidsgirl

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Rosie Gaines' man sized lungs


That made my day biggrin
thanks Binary!
If you will, so will I
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Reply #26 posted 10/26/04 7:32pm

Musicology2004

I dont like the original verson of 1999 even... anyone? anyone at all lol?
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Reply #27 posted 10/26/04 7:47pm

Anxiety

because it makes the police's remake of "don't stand so close to me" sound like frikkin' brian wilson's "smile".
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Reply #28 posted 10/26/04 7:51pm

AsianBomb777

Actually the first track (1999-TNM) is crisper and muhc less boring than the original. HOWEVER, I could have done without the rap and the changed vocal tracks were distracting and almost embarrassing.
It's a track that, if you tweaked it a little, would have been great. But the additions sucked---except the spanish interlude, for some reason I dug that.
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Reply #29 posted 10/26/04 11:26pm

MrSquiggle

mrdespues said:

MrSquiggle said:



14. And I'm not baiting. I hate the "1999" LP. It's a great album destroyed by mammoth tracklengths dominated by synthy instrumentals. The New Master is considerably more fun to listen to. Keep Steppin and Deep House are basically entirely new tracks, all funky in their own.


eek

Wait ten years man and see whether you still prefer the New Master to the original.


I'm talking in terms of albums... the song "1999" is of course perfection in it's original form, and the New Master is a funky lil remix of such. But of course it's not better than the original. But I definetely enjoy listening to the New Masters disc more than the 1999 LP.
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