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Reply #30 posted 10/14/04 8:26am

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The teenage angle is something I had not really considered either, but I certainly felt that this was an American Muslim, not an immigrant. In fact, that's the point, isn't it? The other kids were actually persecuting one of their own (citizens) for a crime committed by foreign terrorists. I'm impressed that this level of thinking is alive and well in our nation's youth. Keep the faith!
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Reply #31 posted 10/14/04 10:12am

Loakum

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Like I said before, glad to see Prince getting mucho attention for a timely and important subject. The fact that the video inspires discussion and debate is only a plus. Like Prince said, "It ain't over".
As for Eminem's video, MJ has done the best job of making himself one big, sad joke. Anything anyone else does doesn't even come close. And shame on BET for pulling the video. They don't have a problem with showing black women being degraded on a daily basis. But let someone make fun of an ugly, white woman, um, I mean MJ, and they yank that from their airwaves. rolleyes

GodDamn.....!!!Your statement is RIGHT ON POINT!!! Now that's what I call keepin it Real!!! I Agree 1000%!
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Reply #32 posted 10/14/04 10:21am

Loakum

I feel the media is just trying to sensationalize "Cinnamon Girl" because the song sheds light on some of the media's sterio-typing of muslim arabs as terrorists! Have we forgotten about the thousands of muslims that were held in federal detainment in the united states just because they were arab-american after the 911 attack! And not to mention the hate crimes commented against mid-eastern americans, and not to mention news agencies reporting topics like..."Why muslims hate americans, instead of why TERRORIST hating americans! Prince's message of "Cinnamon Girl" is labeling a group of people based on hate, only leads to more hate! That's just MY opinion on this matter! Feel free 2 disagree...if U may.....
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Reply #33 posted 10/14/04 10:27am

Loakum

Oh...by the way...let me get this str8! The media is concerned that eminem is making fun of Michael Jackson in a music video!?!? Is this the SAME media that bastardtized MJ for hangin his newborn infant out a twelve story window? Or the SAME media that refer to MJ as "Wacko-Jacko"and routinely talks about MJ's child sleep overs?!?....yeah...whatever!
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Reply #34 posted 10/14/04 10:28am

rockwilder

CNN said,this morning, that an mtv spokesman said they will start showing CM vid ina couple of weeks.
"I'm a pig..so,magic elixir I swill"
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Reply #35 posted 10/14/04 11:26am

threat

Loakum said:

Oh...by nedthe way...let me get this str8! The media is concerned that eminem is making fun of Michael Jackson in a music video!?!? Is this the SAME media that bastardtized MJ for hangin his newborn infant out a twelve story window? Or the SAME media that refer to MJ as "Wacko-Jacko"and routinely talks about MJ's child sleep overs?!?....yeah...whatever!


Man, the media aint concerned about Sh*t. Its Michael Jackson that is concerned (and rightfuly so) and they are reporting on his concerns, like they report on everythang. They are twats, dont get me wrong.
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Reply #36 posted 10/14/04 12:08pm

Pagey

The WGN Morning News in Chicago had a brief note about both videos this morning. No opinion was given on either video, just a summary about the MJ/Eminem thing & a note about Cinnamon Girl with a shot of Prince in concert.
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Reply #37 posted 10/14/04 3:10pm

TurnItUp

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shygirl said:

Like I said before, glad to see Prince getting mucho attention for a timely and important subject. The fact that the video inspires discussion and debate is only a plus. Like Prince said, "It ain't over".
As for Eminem's video, MJ has done the best job of making himself one big, sad joke. Anything anyone else does doesn't even come close. And shame on BET for pulling the video. They don't have a problem with showing black women being degraded on a daily basis. But let someone make fun of an ugly, white woman, um, I mean MJ, and they yank that from their airwaves. rolleyes



I thought BET did the right thing. The video was in poor taste!The man , what ever you think of him is fighting for his LIFE! in a highly prejidicial environment that already has hung him in the court of "popular opinion". we in America still feel that if a person looks different that, that indicates Guilt.The Eminem video is a puzzle to me, haven't we seen this before? I thought Neil Young did something similiar in the early 90's and who is he to be "goofing" on anyone.This "WANNABE" has stated in song that he wanted to RAPE his own MOTHER and kill his WIFE. Your right about the content on BET, but that is a separate issue, this video( as far as the accusation is concerned) was directed towards ONE person and one person ONLY who happens to be on trial. it was improper , and even if you were to remove the MJ image and left the content of that piece in leaving the insinuation in it would still be grounds for removal in my opinion! besides the actal song itself suck!damn did he run out of ideas?


I really don't care about BET pulling Eminem's video because I'm not all that much of an Eminem fan, but as far as him making fun of MJ and that shit you talkin' about MJ fighting for his life, that's a bunch of bullshit! Michael is the one that got hisself in this mess a second time! If he would quit doing stupid shit and stop thinking he can do whatever the f-- he wants Eminem and others wouldn't have nothin' to spoof about and he ain't fighting nothin'. First of all he's hardly had to go to court and second when he has gone it's because he has to this time and he ain't got the money to pay these folks off like he did over 10 years ago and he ain't got Johnny Cochran to defend him, so I don't want hear no sympathetic shit about MJ because he's the one that got himself in this web and I ain't got no respect for him no more. Prince can hold his head up high. He ain't got to deal with no mess like this in his life and I love him for it.
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Reply #38 posted 10/15/04 10:30pm

bohemianhouse

TurnItUp said:

bohemianhouse said:




I thought BET did the right thing. The video was in poor taste!The man , what ever you think of him is fighting for his LIFE! in a highly prejidicial environment that already has hung him in the court of "popular opinion". we in America still feel that if a person looks different that, that indicates Guilt.The Eminem video is a puzzle to me, haven't we seen this before? I thought Neil Young did something similiar in the early 90's and who is he to be "goofing" on anyone.This "WANNABE" has stated in song that he wanted to RAPE his own MOTHER and kill his WIFE. Your right about the content on BET, but that is a separate issue, this video( as far as the accusation is concerned) was directed towards ONE person and one person ONLY who happens to be on trial. it was improper , and even if you were to remove the MJ image and left the content of that piece in leaving the insinuation in it would still be grounds for removal in my opinion! besides the actal song itself suck!damn did he run out of ideas?


I really don't care about BET pulling Eminem's video because I'm not all that much of an Eminem fan, but as far as him making fun of MJ and that shit you talkin' about MJ fighting for his life, that's a bunch of bullshit! Michael is the one that got hisself in this mess a second time! If he would quit doing stupid shit and stop thinking he can do whatever the f-- he wants Eminem and others wouldn't have nothin' to spoof about and he ain't fighting nothin'. First of all he's hardly had to go to court and second when he has gone it's because he has to this time and he ain't got the money to pay these folks off like he did over 10 years ago and he ain't got Johnny Cochran to defend him, so I don't want hear no sympathetic shit about MJ because he's the one that got himself in this web and I ain't got no respect for him no more. Prince can hold his head up high. He ain't got to deal with no mess like this in his life and I love him for it.


First of all what I was saying was that even though we have our opinions we still have to respect the Judicial process, regardless of how you think a person got in trouble . we can SPECULATE all day long.but in AmeriKKKa we still have a due process of law to follow.P.S At first I couldn't take you seriously, you used so many shits and fucks through out your letter I thought I was reading nonsense rambling from some kid (you must be kid ,GOD! I hope your not an adult!)
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Reply #39 posted 10/16/04 5:35pm

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I have'nt actually seen all the Video. They showed a little snippet of it on Sky News over here , in the UK. It seemed to me that Prince was just trying to draw attention to all the probs that have been in the public eye recently. And whats the big deal with this? There are far worst music Videos out there that are NEVER mentioned that can corrupt our childrens minds!

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Reply #40 posted 10/17/04 4:12am

blumer

Eminem's new song and video are horrible. His other first singles (My Name is, Real Slim Shady, and Without Me) were commercial but at least had some lyrical merit to them. This song is a rehash of every other song he has done and sounds way too much like Without Me with the same exact opening. I hope he is spoofing how any crappy song with a dance beat can top the charts and wasn't seriously trying to make a good song here. He has always made goofy videos, but now comes across as a wanabee Weird Al on this vid. I think Weird Al could write a better song than this crap.


Ain't seen Prince's vid yet, but hope they air it on Vh1 and MTV more than Call My Name. Musicology was played quite a bit when it came out but was dropped off their playlists after a couple weeks. Call My Name didn't get much play at all.
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Reply #41 posted 10/17/04 1:46pm

TurnItUp

bohemianhouse said:

TurnItUp said:



I really don't care about BET pulling Eminem's video because I'm not all that much of an Eminem fan, but as far as him making fun of MJ and that shit you talkin' about MJ fighting for his life, that's a bunch of bullshit! Michael is the one that got hisself in this mess a second time! If he would quit doing stupid shit and stop thinking he can do whatever the f-- he wants Eminem and others wouldn't have nothin' to spoof about and he ain't fighting nothin'. First of all he's hardly had to go to court and second when he has gone it's because he has to this time and he ain't got the money to pay these folks off like he did over 10 years ago and he ain't got Johnny Cochran to defend him, so I don't want hear no sympathetic shit about MJ because he's the one that got himself in this web and I ain't got no respect for him no more. Prince can hold his head up high. He ain't got to deal with no mess like this in his life and I love him for it.


First of all what I was saying was that even though we have our opinions we still have to respect the Judicial process, regardless of how you think a person got in trouble . we can SPECULATE all day long.but in AmeriKKKa we still have a due process of law to follow.P.S At first I couldn't take you seriously, you used so many shits and fucks through out your letter I thought I was reading nonsense rambling from some kid (you must be kid ,GOD! I hope your not an adult!)


Yeah I'm an adult who can say whatever they want just like you can and I don't care what you say I don't have to respect no judicial process, MJ, or nothing you got to say. Like I said in the last comment if MJ had've learned his lesson the first time he wouldn't be in this mess for the second time! You can take that seriously or not.
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Reply #42 posted 10/18/04 2:27pm

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I know people like Prince's stance with the new video for Cinnomon Girl -and how it's questioning people's ideas about terrorism---What Prince is doing is great but There is a project I heard about by Warbux Records is putting together called "Five Pillars, Five Elements" whose purpose is to dispell the misconception of Islam by using Hip Hop. Check out www.warbuxrecords.com and in regards to this project. What Prince is doing a start and I think even Prince would appreciate Warbux Record's efforts with the "Five Pillars/Five Elements" CD.....as it's a noble cause it today's political/social environment. Support this project and check out www.warbuxrecords.com.
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