maybe im the only one...(i doubt it) that has noticed that prince is pretty damn rude towards his fans....and the biggest hypocrite EVER....
so many times i have heard him say things like WE
(the people that support his art) ...
have something wrong with ourselves if we look to him for any anything that he may have rammed down the worlds throat once upon a time but now he's through with...how can u try to be a leader that preaches freedom for all...and not being a follower...and and then turn around and become mr religious...and put down all the ways you had before...then cater to your true fans (the only folks that give a S@*# about your freakin RAINBOW WHATEVA....)
then become mr pop again happy to play your old stuff for big $ in arenas....then as soon as the tour is over and theres some free time and your #1 at the bank again....(as he has said in the past)
the only thing you can think to do is sell some stupid book and some candles and shut down all the sites where the TRUE fans are just having a great year along with u trying to get some music...dvds ...videos...and meet likeminded individuals that dig your tunes and want to own things that are gonna be circulating even if u hired 80 lawyers to crack down on the web sites....i think prince is pretty selfish...i love him...respect him....but it sometimes sucks knowing he aint really joking when he said during the acoustic version of cream on the musicology tour...that he wrote the song didicated to himself while looking in the mirror !

Makes you go, "hmmmm"

dont it ?????
i love this man...he means so much to me...his music....but damn...there sure is a long trail of broken hearts and broken commitments and just LIES when u are into him....remember his smooth way of dropping the me and mayte are 4 ever period....uh,,,yeah right...we are getting the marriage annulled cause i aint into contracts....we are still together though....yeah right...or the child issues (although he had a right to keep that private...
why lie and say ITS ALL GOOD) ?????

look, instead of follow...tailgate 'im and you'll wind up with a mouthful of chrome.

Maybe some of us expect to much from the man. He is only human, just like the rest of us. I dont think he intentionally hurts anyone. He does what he feels is right at the time. Dont put too much thought into what Prince does or why and just enjoy the music he made for US! None of us really know what is going on in that pretty little head of his. Do we?

blueyes said:

it'd be scary as hell if we did know, i think...

I think he may be right..

Love him at your own risk.

Prince is being a typical Gemini: flighty,noisy,paranoid etc. That is what has made his music so interesting. He has found a way to intermix that into his music. The only problem lies in the fact he needs someone to keep him focused on music and take care of his business. It shouldn't surprise you that the times people say is Prince's "golden years" is when he had top flight people looking after his business.(1979-1988) When he went on his firing spree after the Lovesexy tour is when the s*$^ hit the fan. His music became less focused and he started doing all of this "crazy" stuff (changing his name, writing slave on his cheek, opening nightclubs without experienced management, dropping albums with no clear theme, making music videos for songs never released). The man is clearly a extremely talented musician who does not have a clue about business.

WHO FUCKING CARES!!!! ulot need a wake up call. Who cares what prince wants to do in his privatre life, at the end of the day if he churns out good music thats all that really matters what BULSHIT thread

mystere38 said:

oh I get it! And then he tries to cover up a flat out mistake on his part and make it sound mystical or something. :fallfoff: :fallfoff: :fallfoff: :fallfoff: :fallfoff:

If he frickin' didn't care, why did he expend so much energy for you during his latest concert?

Puhleeeeeze people!

scandalousalan said:

No, not BS. I think that when you pour your love towards anyone...celebrity or otherwise, one hopes for that love in return...somewhat. aybe we all mistakenly love the guy...and it hurts when we hear that he treats fans in a certain way. Not many artists act the way he does towards their fans.

Being a fan of P's is a love/hate affair. And it goes both ways. Nothing to lose sleep over. He is just another person who has as many contradictions as he does songs. He's not even sure half the time what he really wants.

scandalousalan said:

bullshit to you maybe....but i know many friends and associates that are VERY upset with constantly supporting someone that wants to be in control of even the things WE discuss and own...and an artist that time after time does really inconsiderate things to his so called fans/supporters...i am far from a fanatic nor am i living or dying because of any of princes actions...this post is simply a way of venting feelings many have already expressed.....its real ez to just move on without adding negativity u know....by the way I LOVE PRINCE !

We all know that Prince is a control freak. He like to control anything and that includes what material is available to the public. I understand his point of view, and I also understand fans that can't get enough of him and that want to get every video or music they can get their hands on. Neither party does it out of carelessness or evil. Perhaps he feels like he deserves more respect and that we should be happy wiht the music HE offers us. Prince is a good hearted person.

I did ask myself this many, many years ago then i came to the conclusion why would he after all I’m just a consumer who enjoys his music why would he care about the likes off us and what we think, well that’s my opinion anyway.

Just dig the music, his private life and business adventure is none off my business as long as i enjoy the music i will hang around, maybe i’m tired off it all and just don’t care or maybe i’m just getting old.

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[Edited 10/1/04 16:49pm]

scandalousalan said:

Gotta agree with u on this one!

scandalousalan said:

I second that. I love trading bootlegs but, it is his right to shut down a site that is 75% devoted to helping people circulate unauthorized material that he produces. I'm sure we will all find a way to continue to trade.

i think prince has a lot of love for his fans...only his love is extremely conditional. nobody ever said prince wasn't a fucked-up individual...

He has the same kind of hypocritical tendancies as the rest of us. He just has more money and a larger spotlight.

'could care less' means that he cares. Hence, he could conceivably care less than he does already.

'couldn't care less' means that he doesn't care (and therefore could not care any less, because he didn't care to start with).

Sorry to be pedantic about the English, but it's one of my pet hates.

Carry on, people.

I'd be very surprised if Prince would indeed care about me.

TheFrog said:

It most certainly does not..

HowComeUdontBanMeAnymore said:

must ...fight ...temptation..to...correct ...

when I used to go to Paisley Park for $7 bucks to see a mind blowing performance it seemed to me that Prince was awfully nice to his fans.

Basically it comes down to 2 things:

1. Prince doesn't owe you ANYTHING if you buy his product (his art) then you are doing so of your own free will.

2. Some people are WAY too involved being Prince fans. I mean if something that Prince does really causes you deep pain and/or annoyance-you should check your involvment level with how much time and attention you are spending on Prince etc.
[Edited 10/7/04 16:32pm]

What's wrong with Cream being a song about himself - I could tell that the first time I heard it. I say - GET A LIFE - enjoy the man's music - but don't turn him into your mentor - unless its as a musician. Hmmm

Universaluv said:

The denotational meaning of a word a or phrase depends largely on how it is percieved by the general public.
Language changes all the time, and it just so happens that most people would denotate "I could care less" with the meaning "I do not care"..

And that's the end of today's sociolinguistic lecture kids

HowComeUdontBanMeAnymore said:

If most people understand it to mean that, that is fine, and language naturally changes all the time, but this is an instance of something which originally made sense and has now been bastardised because of a simple error somewhere along the line.

All i'm saying is that in the UK, i don't know anyone who uses the phrase except as it is understood as i've described above. That is to say, in the manner in which (when you logically break down the phrase), it makes sense.

In addition, since use of language does change all the time, it's perfectly proper to try and restrain people from changing a phrase which makes sense, into one which doesn't (but may, because of 'common parlance', be recognised as meaning something it originally didn't.)

scandalousalan said:

i with u and im going to tell yall what my brother told me a long time ago insulting prince"prince dont buy u no clothes to put on your back and dont help with ur education!"ive hated him since that ay but my point is prince does act kind of shitty sometimes

skywalker said:

Exactly!

Some people need to get a little objectivity. I've avoided really commenting on the whole
'Housequake.com' incident, but I think the whole thing was blown out of all proportion.
If people are gonna whine about Prince trying to 'shut down the fans sites' etc. they need
get a reality check and ask themselves 'why' Prince felt the need to do what he did.
Personally I can completely see his point of view on this matter, and I was actually surprised
it hadn't happened sooner.

TheFrog said:

...and that's one of several ways in which language undergoes perpetual change; through "error"..