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Reply #60 posted 10/11/04 5:49pm

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PurpleCharm said:

meow85 said:




Because even though we love the music, most of us have never met him and his skin tone has no bearing on our lives. That's why.

I'd like to know why you think it should matter.



Everything Prince has done has been calculated. If his intentions were to specifically exclude people that 'looked' a certain way, then it did/does matter to Prince. So my point is, if it matters/mattered to Prince, then why get a screw face about his fans caring about it also, even if their reasons for caring is different.


That's like when someone says that Jesus did not have blonde hair and blue eyes, folks start saying that it does matter. Well it shouldn't matter, but obviously the people that painted him that way thought it mattered.


confuse So you're saying that the fans should care what colour his skin is, and "paint" him their preferred shade? I know he's fucked around with his "public" race (i.e. black, white, italian....) but I do understand why he may have done it. But do I actually care either way what he is? No, and neither should anyone else. I don't care what race a fan is or what racial bullshit they may have gone through in their lives -if they're that hung up on a complete strangers' skin colour, perhaps they should turn off the stereo for a while and re-examine their values.

I still don't see why I should care what shade his skin is. It has no significance to me, nor does it affect the quality of his music. Why do people care if he's black, white, or whatever he is? And are you saying that just because other fans care I shouldn't think they're being raging idiots for being hung up on something so superficial?
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Reply #61 posted 10/11/04 7:36pm

PurpleCharm

meow85 said:

PurpleCharm said:




Everything Prince has done has been calculated. If his intentions were to specifically exclude people that 'looked' a certain way, then it did/does matter to Prince. So my point is, if it matters/mattered to Prince, then why get a screw face about his fans caring about it also, even if their reasons for caring is different.


That's like when someone says that Jesus did not have blonde hair and blue eyes, folks start saying that it does matter. Well it shouldn't matter, but obviously the people that painted him that way thought it mattered.


confuse So you're saying that the fans should care what colour his skin is, and "paint" him their preferred shade? I know he's fucked around with his "public" race (i.e. black, white, italian....) but I do understand why he may have done it. But do I actually care either way what he is? No, and neither should anyone else. I don't care what race a fan is or what racial bullshit they may have gone through in their lives -if they're that hung up on a complete strangers' skin colour, perhaps they should turn off the stereo for a while and re-examine their values.

I still don't see why I should care what shade his skin is. It has no significance to me, nor does it affect the quality of his music. Why do people care if he's black, white, or whatever he is? And are you saying that just because other fans care I shouldn't think they're being raging idiots for being hung up on something so superficial?



Let me wrap this up. Nowhere did I say it should matter what race Prince or any other artist is. If a Black person has issues with another Black person trying to deny they are Black, then you need to keep it moving if you don't understand from a historical perspective why they feel that way. It seems like some have issues with even mentioning anything about Prince being Black without the choir singing the same ol' tune 'what difference does it make.' Like I stated before, if obviously made a difference to Prince. neutral
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Reply #62 posted 10/11/04 9:01pm

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PurpleCharm said:

meow85 said:



confuse So you're saying that the fans should care what colour his skin is, and "paint" him their preferred shade? I know he's fucked around with his "public" race (i.e. black, white, italian....) but I do understand why he may have done it. But do I actually care either way what he is? No, and neither should anyone else. I don't care what race a fan is or what racial bullshit they may have gone through in their lives -if they're that hung up on a complete strangers' skin colour, perhaps they should turn off the stereo for a while and re-examine their values.

I still don't see why I should care what shade his skin is. It has no significance to me, nor does it affect the quality of his music. Why do people care if he's black, white, or whatever he is? And are you saying that just because other fans care I shouldn't think they're being raging idiots for being hung up on something so superficial?



Let me wrap this up. Nowhere did I say it should matter what race Prince or any other artist is. If a Black person has issues with another Black person trying to deny they are Black, then you need to keep it moving if you don't understand from a historical perspective why they feel that way. It seems like some have issues with even mentioning anything about Prince being Black without the choir singing the same ol' tune 'what difference does it make.' Like I stated before, if obviously made a difference to Prince. neutral


It still shouldn't matter to any of us. There's no excuse for being a jackass when it comes to racial matters -no matter your race or situation.
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Reply #63 posted 10/11/04 9:55pm

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PurpleCharm said:

meow85 said:



confuse So you're saying that the fans should care what colour his skin is, and "paint" him their preferred shade? I know he's fucked around with his "public" race (i.e. black, white, italian....) but I do understand why he may have done it. But do I actually care either way what he is? No, and neither should anyone else. I don't care what race a fan is or what racial bullshit they may have gone through in their lives -if they're that hung up on a complete strangers' skin colour, perhaps they should turn off the stereo for a while and re-examine their values.

I still don't see why I should care what shade his skin is. It has no significance to me, nor does it affect the quality of his music. Why do people care if he's black, white, or whatever he is? And are you saying that just because other fans care I shouldn't think they're being raging idiots for being hung up on something so superficial?



Let me wrap this up. Nowhere did I say it should matter what race Prince or any other artist is. If a Black person has issues with another Black person trying to deny they are Black, then you need to keep it moving if you don't understand from a historical perspective why they feel that way. It seems like some have issues with even mentioning anything about Prince being Black without the choir singing the same ol' tune 'what difference does it make.' Like I stated before, if obviously made a difference to Prince. neutral
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Reply #64 posted 10/11/04 9:56pm

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PurpleCharm said:

meow85 said:



confuse So you're saying that the fans should care what colour his skin is, and "paint" him their preferred shade? I know he's fucked around with his "public" race (i.e. black, white, italian....) but I do understand why he may have done it. But do I actually care either way what he is? No, and neither should anyone else. I don't care what race a fan is or what racial bullshit they may have gone through in their lives -if they're that hung up on a complete strangers' skin colour, perhaps they should turn off the stereo for a while and re-examine their values.

I still don't see why I should care what shade his skin is. It has no significance to me, nor does it affect the quality of his music. Why do people care if he's black, white, or whatever he is? And are you saying that just because other fans care I shouldn't think they're being raging idiots for being hung up on something so superficial?



Let me wrap this up. Nowhere did I say it should matter what race Prince or any other artist is. If a Black person has issues with another Black person trying to deny they are Black, then you need to keep it moving if you don't understand from a historical perspective why they feel that way. It seems like some have issues with even mentioning anything about Prince being Black without the choir singing the same ol' tune 'what difference does it make.' Like I stated before, if obviously made a difference to Prince. neutral


Obviously????
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Reply #65 posted 10/11/04 9:58pm

priceless

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Reply #66 posted 10/11/04 10:21pm

PurpleCharm

meow85 said:

PurpleCharm said:




Let me wrap this up. Nowhere did I say it should matter what race Prince or any other artist is. If a Black person has issues with another Black person trying to deny they are Black, then you need to keep it moving if you don't understand from a historical perspective why they feel that way. It seems like some have issues with even mentioning anything about Prince being Black without the choir singing the same ol' tune 'what difference does it make.' Like I stated before, if obviously made a difference to Prince. neutral


It still shouldn't matter to any of us. There's no excuse for being a jackass when it comes to racial matters -no matter your race or situation.



What the hell are you talking about..
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Reply #67 posted 10/11/04 10:22pm

PurpleCharm

piscesglenn said:

PurpleCharm said:




Let me wrap this up. Nowhere did I say it should matter what race Prince or any other artist is. If a Black person has issues with another Black person trying to deny they are Black, then you need to keep it moving if you don't understand from a historical perspective why they feel that way. It seems like some have issues with even mentioning anything about Prince being Black without the choir singing the same ol' tune 'what difference does it make.' Like I stated before, if obviously made a difference to Prince. neutral


Obviously????


yes
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Reply #68 posted 10/12/04 6:02am

Novabreaker

I think the most outrageous omission is that the assless pants do get a lot of coverage even to this day, but nobody's talking about the BACKLESS PANTS (worn during the Gold tour).
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Reply #69 posted 10/12/04 7:55am

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Being such a influence on music and how he helped change it.
If god one day struck me blind,
Your beauty i'd still see.
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Reply #70 posted 10/12/04 9:56pm

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PurpleCharm said:

meow85 said:



It still shouldn't matter to any of us. There's no excuse for being a jackass when it comes to racial matters -no matter your race or situation.



What the hell are you talking about..



I was referring to people who get hung up about an artist's race -or even the artist himself. Who cares if race matters to Prince? Jehovah matters to Prince too -does that mean the fans should all convert?
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Reply #71 posted 10/12/04 10:23pm

14u2k

'Name 1 thing Prince doesn't get enough credit for'


His perm. cool
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Reply #72 posted 10/14/04 12:28am

MIGUELGOMEZ

He never got much recognition for the song Uh-huh, you've got the right one baby. I kind of like the full version as opposed to the commercial Ray Charles did for Pepsi.

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Reply #73 posted 10/14/04 12:46am

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HAHAHAAHA!!!! I love that Pepsi song.

Anyhow. Prince never gets enough credit for discovering slutty one hit wonder chicks from the 80's. Vanity would be nothing if it weren't for him. Because of Prince, she became a coke snorting ho who nearly died of a heart attack. And most importantly, she wouldn't have found God without him. lol
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Reply #74 posted 10/14/04 6:05am

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I dont know if anyone mentioned it but...Prince does not get credit for being one of very few artists to release an album or two every single year since he signed his deal in 1978. biggrin
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Reply #75 posted 10/14/04 6:17am

Jon

Prince doesnt get enough credit in Argos. He mostly has to use cash...
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Reply #76 posted 10/14/04 6:33am

mistatee

Never gets enough credit for creating the masterpieces: Lady cab driver, If I was your girlfriend, and The ballad of Dorothy Parker
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Reply #77 posted 10/14/04 6:38am

kisscamille

Perhaps this has already been said, but I can't take the time to read all the comments above.

He doesn't get enough credit for his charity work. What I mean is, he gives a lot of money to charities, but he does it very quietly, so he seldom gets recognition for all the money he's given out over the years. I guess he wants it this way, or he would be inviting the press more often.
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Reply #78 posted 10/14/04 7:57am

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kisscamille said:


He doesn't get enough credit for his charity work. What I mean is, he gives a lot of money to charities, but he does it very quietly.


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Prince definitely has contributed his share with taste.
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Reply #79 posted 10/14/04 8:02am

TheDeacon

He does not get enough credit for his singing ability. He may not be the best singer but he can belt out a tune better than these lipsynching, no talent acts out here today
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Reply #80 posted 10/14/04 8:37am

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TheDeacon said:

He does not get enough credit for his singing ability. He may not be the best singer but he can belt out a tune better than these lipsynching, no talent acts out here today
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Absolutely ...ditto...I love his voice...
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Reply #81 posted 10/14/04 9:09am

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His producing is amazing. He has never won a fucking grammy for his producing. An amazing slight in music history.

People rarely mention his use of backing vocals, the clever way he uses this choir effect in his backing vocals. Many new artists rip his ideas in this area off.

His overrall musicianship is underrated; case in effect being the way people were surprised that Prince was such a great guitarist, after the Hall Of Fame solos.

His piano playing is amazing too. Much of this is Prince's fault, since he has held back these abilities for years.
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Reply #82 posted 10/14/04 9:41am

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littlemissg said:

I'll start.
Not going Hollywood, staying in Minneapolis (and Toronto).


the guy owned a mansion in Los Angeles back in the 80's. I'm sorry, but he went Hollywood.
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Reply #83 posted 10/14/04 11:19am

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The amount of work he's done. He's one of the most prolific musicians of our time.

That he didn't pull a Sly Stone and disappear.

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Reply #84 posted 10/15/04 2:52am

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meow85 said:

Anxiety said:

Hell, there are some people who have no idea that Prince plays all his own instruments. I know people who still think he dresses in ruffles and lace gloves. It's kooky.



There are people who have no idea he plays any instruments.


This is so true. I was talking to a friend about Prince and made a comment on how great his guitar playing is. He just looked at me kinda strangely and said " oh yeah, he looks really good standing with his guitar while someone else plays behind the curtain". I have never been so close to headbutting someone in my whole life!!
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Reply #85 posted 10/15/04 3:03am

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The little-known fact that he's played Elmo on TV's 'Sesame Street' for nearly 30 years.
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Reply #86 posted 10/15/04 7:58am

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dumbass said:

littlemissg said:

I'll start.
Not going Hollywood, staying in Minneapolis (and Toronto).


the guy owned a mansion in Los Angeles back in the 80's. I'm sorry, but he went Hollywood.


Well, he didn't stay Hollywood.
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Reply #87 posted 10/15/04 8:14am

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He doesnt get enough credit for his all of his musical talent because
People are to caught up on how "weird" he is
He is just a colorful, creative personification of his music

It may be different, but its also brilliant

Also I agree he doesnt get credit for being funny and
not taking himself too seriously biggrin
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Reply #88 posted 10/15/04 8:44am

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littlemissg said:

dumbass said:



the guy owned a mansion in Los Angeles back in the 80's. I'm sorry, but he went Hollywood.


Well, he didn't stay Hollywood.

exactly. merely buying a house in another state/country is totally different from moving there and stayin put.
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Reply #89 posted 10/15/04 8:46am

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deebee said:

The little-known fact that he's played Elmo on TV's 'Sesame Street' for nearly 30 years.
eek


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