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Reply #30 posted 10/07/04 1:34pm

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Reply #31 posted 10/07/04 1:35pm

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Starmist7 said:

...that just made him all the more famous.

infamous, more like...
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Reply #32 posted 10/07/04 1:37pm

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Redayh said:

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

Can someone break it down for me because I don't understand why he did it.



The quote I have heard to explain the slave thing, is this:

If you don't own your masters (recordings) then your Masters (WB) own you. (Therefore you are a slave).


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Oh. In that case, I still feel the same way now as I did then. Bad freakin' idea.
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Reply #33 posted 10/07/04 2:22pm

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Jestyr said:

Money doesn't make you immune to slavery. Why are Brits in particular so obsessed with the idea of the word 'slave' being written on his cheek doing some kind of damage to Prince? I don't get it. Exactly what about it was damaging? George Michael (among countless others) was involved in a contract that kept him from the freedom to record what he wanted, and he was very public about it, but nothing is ever said about that damaging him. The assumption that you cannot be a slave simply because you are being paid (whatever the amount) is erroneous. Frankly the dispute was about artistic control and NOT money. Prince wanted his masters to be owned by their creator. Is that damaging?

The difference with Prince though is that he was considered 'wierd' from the start of his career. In most peoples minds they believe because a man wears womens clothes, he has a nut loose. He was always doing different things, which people just don't expect or like. When he started fighting with WB it wasn't really a problem to him, but writing Slave on your face because you want your artistic control to many is what they'd call being childish and ridiculous. He then did interviews where he didn't speak, wearing that veil all the time, the 'wierdness' just increases in the publics eyes and they suddendly start to think that he has both nuts loose. Then changing his name to something unpronounceable was just the icing on the cake for them. He was from then on considered nothing more than a joke, the short mofo that wears womens clothes called 'Mr. Squiggle' is pretty much how many people remember him.

It was most certainly a bad move from his point of view, because people just didn't take him seriously anymore, focusing on the joke over everything else. Hey i'm not bothered what he does really, same with anybody. Its their choice, but from a commercial perspective i think its fairly easy to see, how much of a bad move it was for his career.
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Reply #34 posted 10/07/04 2:25pm

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Redayh said:

Jestyr said:

I know the African American community decided to be offended by it, but I honestly believe Prince is incapable of thinking in the same racial terms that most African-Americans think in. Prince lives in a different world than the rest of us.



Wow, we did? News to me.

I hang with a LOT of African-Americans (hell, I'm even related to a few wink ), and general consensus among those I hung with, was this: "Oh, you know how Prince is. Whatever." I honestly don't recall ANYONE I knew being at all offended.

Also, African-Americans have varied opinions about race matters, but I am sure you know that. I bet some of us even think about race in the same manner Prince does. biggrin




Sarita


Cosign this! Oh and another thing... I don't recall me or my friends calling Prince anything other than prince. And it was no big deal either.
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Reply #35 posted 10/07/04 2:32pm

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Redayh said:

Jestyr said:

I know the African American community decided to be offended by it, but I honestly believe Prince is incapable of thinking in the same racial terms that most African-Americans think in. Prince lives in a different world than the rest of us.



Wow, we did? News to me.


See that's what happens when you don't come to the meetings wink
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Reply #36 posted 10/07/04 2:36pm

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It did seemed to damage his song writing talent, since he hasn't made any great music in years. lol
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #37 posted 10/07/04 2:40pm

Redayh

Universaluv said:

Redayh said:




Wow, we did? News to me.


See that's what happens when you don't come to the meetings wink


falloff



I really gotta start making those meetings again. I might lose my "Official African American" certification if I am not careful.
lol

(LMAAAO. You made me spit water all over my monitor with that one.)
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Reply #38 posted 10/07/04 2:54pm

Universaluv

Redayh said:

Universaluv said:



See that's what happens when you don't come to the meetings wink


falloff



I really gotta start making those meetings again. I might lose my "Official African American" certification if I am not careful.
lol

(LMAAAO. You made me spit water all over my monitor with that one.)
S



Glad to be of service. biggrin I'll make sure to email you the minutes of the last meeting so you'll know what we think about the election.
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Reply #39 posted 10/07/04 2:55pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

It did seemed to damage his song writing talent, since he hasn't made any great music in years. lol



Whatever-if you truly believe this you are a fool. In that era, as he continmues to do now, Prince wrote some great music. Gold Experience ring any bells?
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Reply #40 posted 10/07/04 3:42pm

Jestyr

Redayh said:

Jestyr said:

I know the African American community decided to be offended by it, but I honestly believe Prince is incapable of thinking in the same racial terms that most African-Americans think in. Prince lives in a different world than the rest of us.



Wow, we did? News to me.

I hang with a LOT of African-Americans (hell, I'm even related to a few wink ), and general consensus among those I hung with, was this: "Oh, you know how Prince is. Whatever." I honestly don't recall ANYONE I knew being at all offended.

Also, African-Americans have varied opinions about race matters, but I am sure you know that. I bet some of us even think about race in the same manner Prince does. biggrin




Sarita



Alllll right... I should have said a few African Americans...but also - see Threadbare's post above.
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Reply #41 posted 10/09/04 9:51pm

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Jestyr said:


In most peoples minds they believe because a man wears womens clothes, he has a nut loose.



I think he has a nut loose, but not because of the way he dresses....lol
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