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Thread started 09/29/04 10:22am

scandalousalan

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Baby Knows appreciation

I know rave isn't a favourite album by most, hell alot would say it is crap, but i love "Baby Knows", it is such a cool song, i was dancing about to it earlier. All in favour say "aye"
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Reply #1 posted 09/30/04 1:08pm

Saturn

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Aye! Rave isn't a bad album ... it's in the bottom tier of Prince albums 4 sho, but it was still way better than a lot of other albums that were out and selling millions of CDs at the time.

That's another reason I love Prince ... what some call his "worst" is still fucking fantastic.

Screw what anybody say.


ALL HATERS machinegun
"If we ever naked in the same machine i'm a lick ya baby, joint 2 joint!"


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Reply #2 posted 09/30/04 1:16pm

mrdespues

Baby Knows is about the best song on there, along with Pretty Man.
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Reply #3 posted 09/30/04 1:18pm

Moonwalkbjrain

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mmmmm thats my jaaaaam!
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #4 posted 09/30/04 1:28pm

pennylover

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Love "Baby Knows" it's one of my favorites. Loved when he did it live on cable wink
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Reply #5 posted 09/30/04 1:41pm

Marrk

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Party-poop here! biggrin

It's an average song, perhaps not even that good.
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Reply #6 posted 09/30/04 1:42pm

andykeen

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I haven't heard the album version, but i have heard the 1 on the "rave" vid, and from tht it sounds cool!

Keenmeister
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Reply #7 posted 09/30/04 3:30pm

ConsciousConta
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No aye from me. More of a nay.
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Reply #8 posted 09/30/04 8:08pm

priceless

mrdespues said:

Baby Knows is about the best song on there, along with Pretty Man.


aye aye
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Reply #9 posted 09/30/04 9:39pm

TheBigBang

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One of the worst songs Prince has ever written. Honestly, there is nothing good about this song. Nothing. Lyrically, it's a fucking mess.

She make U call ur boys up in a pow-wow
2 scope a plan
how 2 ditch her man in a trunk of a Lexus
a perplexin' hex this witch has flexed


Huh?

She knows how 2 make U feel
like your stuff ain't brown 2nite


AUUUGGGHHHH!!!

There is no appreciation for this song. And the worst part? List Sheryl Crow as "co-lead vox" and you can barely...barely...hear her. The only thing about this song that's even remotely significant is it marked the last released Prince track with Michael B. on drums.
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Reply #10 posted 09/30/04 10:18pm

karebear00738

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Ahhh, in my opinion, the magic of P... even though the lyrics may be a little off (who really ever fully understands them half the time anyway?).. the music and beat make up for it... what sold me with Baby Knows is the performance on the Rave DVD~
~Karebear~


**If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention**
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Reply #11 posted 10/01/04 2:26am

Novabreaker

Nobody would have complained if a song like this would have been on Sign "O" The Times as well. It's classic Prince - even with the live drumming and harmonica...

Baby Knows; Prettyman; I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore; The Sun, The Moon & Stars are very much vintage Prince. I just wish he would have compiled the entire album in that same vein. Had "Hot Wit U" had a better rhythm track it would have fitted on that list too, and of course the title track is automatically there.

But then again... this is just another case of the "wouldacouldashoulda"-syndrome.
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Reply #12 posted 10/01/04 3:18am

Dewrede

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I like ''Man o' war a lot !
Baby knows i think , is quite mediocre , tho i have a live TOTP video version that's actually quite cool .
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Reply #13 posted 10/01/04 4:09am

MadChemistry

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Song worked live on TV. He did it on like 3 shows in the UK, but it wasn't a single, and so no-one could buy it. What was the point? Dunno if it would have been a hit, but since he did the promotion, it should have been released. Hell, maybe even with some clubby mixes. Maybe there was record company issues or something.
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Reply #14 posted 10/01/04 4:33am

IstenSzek

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I just can't help but wonder what the Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic album sounded like when
the first compilations were sequenced.

Reports from people of Prince's inner circle in THE VAULT narrate of an album that was so
much more "Sign O The Times" than the released product.

There seem to have been much more weird/uncommon songs on it than it ended up with
later. A lot of the weird stuff was replaced by top 40 filler tracks.

I think the core of the album is still easily separated from the later poppy version.

To me, what sounds like the original generic core is this:

Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic
Tangerine
I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore
Pretty Man
Beautiful Strange
Strange But True

Perhaps "Baby Knows" and "So Far, So Pleased" were on that too, but I doubt it. I think
that most of those colabs were recorded after he went label shopping and ended up with
Arista.

However, I think that the Ani Difranco duet was recorded a bit earlier or later but came
off more spontaneous.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #15 posted 10/01/04 8:39am

thekidsgirl

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I love Rave boxed
If you will, so will I
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Reply #16 posted 10/01/04 8:52am

Novabreaker

IstenSzek said:


I think the core of the album is still easily separated from the later poppy version.


The original version was apparently far more rock-based according to older articles and an interview where Prince himself said that the new record was going to be "loud, crazy rock'n'roll". So I'd guess "Baby Knows", "Beautiful Strange", maybe even some kind of a version of "So Far, So Pleased" (most likely without Gwen Stefani in that case) could have indeed been on it too (don't count on it though).

According to some other sources he intended to record something more in the vein of SOTT as well (this might have been a later idea), but I just think he lost his focus in the process. From what it seems it sounds almost like several album projects rolled into one. However, at the time of its release and several years after the general consensus was that the real problem of the record is the insipid drum programming by Kirky J. That's a view I still have to at least partially agree with.

Rave could have been a terrific album had he concentrated a little bit more on it.
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Reply #17 posted 10/01/04 9:11am

LRCorvette

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I LOVE RAVE!!! IT JUST MIGHT BE MY FAVORITE ALBUM!! (Well, aside from C&D) =)~
This love is a private affair...
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