Can please someone explain 2 me, what these lines from "Muse 2 The Pharaoh" mean? ->

"And if the number 13 is sich a bad luck number
when theres no such thing as luck
Then the berries, talons, arrows and stars
Are all superstitions, what the ....."

What the hell is this about?
The only thing i know that has berries, talons, arows , stars and the number 13 on it is an One-Dollar Bill? Has this anything to do with Dollar Bills?

Any Clue?

Thanks,
Soulstar77A
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Some Jehova Witness mumbo jumbo I guess.

or that we beiele in something that doesn't really exist. Does money exist? Maybe for you and I but not for rich folks who are all about figures.

that's my take.

Soulstar77A said:

Yes

When Prince performed this song during the ONA tour, an image of the dollar bill was shown during the song.

If I recall correctly, the focus would be placed on (amongst other things) the legend 'In God we trust' and the image of the eye in the top half of the pyramid ... around about the time that he would sing 'The opposaite of Nato is ... monotheism'

This presumably has some significance for Prince because I seem to recall a question being asked on the official site about the meaning or symbolism of the separated pinnacle of the pyramid ... around about the same time that a question was also posed about what was the opposite of NATO. An image of a NATO delegation was linked to, showing the French trsnslation of the organisation - which abbreviated reads 'OTAN'.
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I always thought he was referring to things found from Prehistoric man.

Berries and talons being things they collected or used, maybe as currency, arrows and starts being stuff they drew on the cave walls.

I guess he's saying modern society likes to disprove anything intangible, whether it's religious or otherwise- in this case "Luck". No such thing as luck?
If we can't believe in things that can't be scientifically proven, why is it okay to lightly throw around superstitions like "13" being unlucky. It's contradictory.

For example, in Germany, there are no 13th floors. Now, I don't know anything about German rulers or government, but if whomever's in power over the cities would probably not tie in intangible things into running the city, whether it's religious, spiritual, or supernatural. Like I'm sure there are no official city signs around town saying "Don't Forget to Say Your Prayers at Night" or "NOTICE: HAUNTED HOUSE". Or public service announcements reminding you to thank your Guardian Angel. So why should it be acceptable to not have a 13th floor on a building because it's unlucky?

It's kind of hard to get across what I'm saying. But that was my interpretation of the "If the number 13 is such a bad luck number, when there's no such thing as luck" lyric.

Again, the second part of the lyric I interpreted as cave drawings and evidence from prehistoric times. I think it's Prince's way of making a "Religious People vs. Nonreligious People" statement, by saying, well "If there are no angels, or if Jesus wasn't the Messiah, why should we believe these cave drawings/ excavated artifacts are proof of ancient civilization? They're held with such belief and esteem, when somebody could've drawn them with sidewalk chalk yesterday.

Why is it okay for us as a society to believe 'this' , and when we can't believe
that' ?

Sorry, it was a little difficult for me to put into words the idea I'm trying to communicate.

That's just something I felt when I first heard it.

EcstaticFanatic said:

Cave drawings and the remains of civilization aren't intangible. And no, they couldn't have been written by anyone with sidewalk chalk yesterday. Ever hear of carbon dating?

Otan i think was the god that Neffretiti created.

kind of makes some sense as Prince is kinda into egyptoligy(sp)

jacktheimprovident said:

This wasn't really an in-depth analysis or anything, just a feeling I got.
And it goes without saying something physical isn't intangible.

The remark about the chalk wasn't literal, and I know of carbon-dating. My idea just got lost in my attempt to describe it lightly.

muirdo said:

Actually it was a god invented by Amenhotep in an attempt to ideologically homogenize the population by imposing a new monotheistic faith on everyone and thus get rid of the disparite faiths of the different cities and regions. It failed miserably

Look at a dollar bill -- (New World Order Seclorum (without God))

13 leaves in the olive branch
13 bars and stripes in the shield
13 arrows in the right claw
13 letters in the "E Pluribus Unum" on the ribbon
13 stars in the green crest above
13 granite stones in the Pyramid. (The 13 layers represent the 13 Illuminati bloodlines)
13 letters in Annuit Coeptis

It should also be noted that the Eagle has 32 feathers right wing, but 33 in its left wing. The 32 feathers representing the number of ordinary degrees of the Scottish Rite, and the 33 feathers representing the 33º of Freemasonry. (32+33=65) The tail feathers number 9, the number of degrees in the York Rite. The eagle itself is a prominent icon of Masonry, being used extensively in the Scottish Rite.

Looking just above the eagles head you will see 13 pentagrams within a cloud. The pentagrams are arranged in the shape of a hexagram - or greater Seal of Solomon. The hexagram is a powerful tool used by pagans and sorcerers to invoke Satan. It is also the sign of Anti Christ with 6 points, 6 angles and 6 planes ( 666). ) The 5 pointed pentagrams multiplied by the 13 stars equals 65, the same cabalistic number as mentioned above. This makes one wonder with whom or what, we are to dwell in unity!

In Freemasonry, the Pentagram is found commonly in the inner chambers of the lodges. Its ancient origins are as a symbol for the star Sirius, inextricably linked through the Masonic lore to the Egyptian goddess Isis. As such, it has become the symbol for the Order of the Eastern Star, the female counterpart to the exclusively male brotherhood of Freemasonry.

The eagle replaced the Phoenix in 1841 as the national bird. The Phoenix has been a Brotherhood symbol since ancient Egypt. The Phoenix was adopted by the Founding Fathers (Freemasons) for use on the reverse of the first official seal of the United States after a design proposed by Charles Thompson, Secretary of the Continental Congress.

To the right of George Washington's portrait on the front of the American Dollar Bill you will see the Seal of the Department of the Treasury. It comprises of a key, the scales of justice and a square which is a very important symbol in Freemasonry. If you look at the square you will see 13 holes in it. There are also 39 green dots which surround the square, key and scale. Remember 39 ? Thirty nine divided by two is 19.5 . The number 19.5 can be seen within the design of Cydonia, Mars, Avebury, England and Washington D.C.

There is a small owl just to the left of the "1" which appears on the upper right hand corner of the Dollar Bill. Leaders from all over the world meet once a year in northern California at the Bohemian Grove and practice ceremonies around a huge owl statue.

The Illuminati was founded in 1776 -- this number on the dollar bill is not in reference to American independence.

The letters on the base of the Illuminati pyramid stand for certain numbers. And all those numbers when added up equal 1776, the year the Illuminati formed.

"MDCCLXXVI"
M=1000 / D=500 / CC=200 / L=50 / XX=20 / V=5 / I=1 =1776

(M ÷ D) x (CC ÷ L) x (XX ÷ V) x 1 = 32 Scottish Rite

(M ÷ D) x (CC ÷ L) x (XX ÷ V) + 1 = 33 Freemasonry

222+222+222=666 666+666+222+222=1776 666x3=1998 (fullness of the age - Pisces) 1998-1776=222 1776-444=1332

The year 1332 was heavy with the possibility of Antichrist's advent, following perhaps the turn of the century prophecies of Arnold of Villanova, and some speculative mathematics by Olivi in his Commentary on the Book of Revelation.

More than one method exists for arriving at 1776. However, there is only one way to arrive at the following sequence. The Babelonian numbering system was used by the Masonic designers of the Seal. That numbering system was not based on ten, but on six. For example, "600" would be 1000, "60" would be 100 and "6" would be 10.

The Occult is Trinitarian, i.e. it's main teachings are grouped in three's. The Number Sequence "93 and 93, 93"; or 600, 60, and 6 is the "current" of the new age of Aquarius - the Water Bearer, which heralds the end of the age of Pisces - the Fishes (an early symbol of Catholic Crusaders who were called "Christians") in the teachings of the Order of the Eastern Templars or O.T.O. (Ordo Templi Orientis).
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