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Reply #120 posted 09/30/04 11:51am

prodigalfan

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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

Copycat said:

Only an arrogant, fan-bashing bastard like Prince would attack sites dedicated to him.
[Edited 9/30/04 9:34am]
If it were your music and it was your livelyhood, you wouldn't try to stop people from selling/trading it?

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is this for real? Has anyone tried to call the number? I WANT TO SEE I hate U video,
fit and since MTV and VH1 and BET won't play ur old chit from the 90's there is no way for me to see it!!!!! (I know you're watching Prince. lurking) corrected a spelling error just for hands.
[Edited 9/30/04 11:55am]
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"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #121 posted 09/30/04 11:53am

superspaceboy

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Anxiety said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


omfg anx, shhhhh! you just said the verboten word!!!! omfg


so if i'm wearing boots and i think they make my gams look pretty, i'm not allowed to brag about it??? i got real pretty bootlegs, you oughtta see me in a pair of docs in the summer. why, i could be a catalog model! mad


You could be the Elle McPherson of Sears Catalogs!

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #122 posted 09/30/04 11:56am

superspaceboy

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prodigalfan said:

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

If it were your music and it was your livelyhood, you wouldn't try to stop people from selling/trading it?

[/


is this for real? Has anyone tried to call the number? I WANT TO SEE I hate U video,
fit and since MTV and VH1 and BET won't play ur old chit from the 90's there is no way for me to see it!!!!! (I know your watching Prince. lurking)


See my reply right above yours. He gives us a place to call...yet doesn't pick up. Not even a recording of Mani or something.

Kind of like "the complaint department" is really just a purple gabage can where all the complaints go.

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Reply #123 posted 09/30/04 11:57am

Handclapsfinga
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superspaceboy said:

Anxiety said:

how are we supposed to request a damn vibe if we're not even allowed to mention it without getting a dang ambulance chaser sicced on us? i mean, REALLY! what does emily post have to say about bootlegs??! mad


I just tried 1-800-NEW-FUNK to request a vibe as his letter says...but all it did was Ring and ring and ring and ring and ring and ring and ring and ring and ring..It feels like the Crystall Ball Fiasco ...alll over again.

the cb fiasco....*shudders* shake
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Reply #124 posted 09/30/04 11:57am

TheOrgerFormer
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prodigalfan said:

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

If it were your music and it was your livelyhood, you wouldn't try to stop people from selling/trading it?

[/


is this for real? Has anyone tried to call the number? I WANT TO SEE I hate U video,
fit and since MTV and VH1 and BET won't play ur old chit from the 90's there is no way for me to see it!!!!! (I know you're watching Prince. lurking) corrected a spelling error just for hands.
[Edited 9/30/04 11:55am]
wink
[Edited 9/30/04 11:56am]
redface I shoulda said this note was from years ago.
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Reply #125 posted 09/30/04 12:08pm

theblueangel

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Redayh said:

I gotta tell you, the most trippy part of all this to me, is that at least one individual who has traded DVDs on the Housequake site, has gotten a letter from Prince's legal team. I think I would fall over if I opened my mailbox this evening, and there was a letter from Prince's attorneys in there. I would understand that it was his right, but I would be completely shocked.



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No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

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Reply #126 posted 09/30/04 12:18pm

bananacologne

XxAxX said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


ya'll keep jinxin a site and the Paisley Legal Mafioso will be here, purple billy clubs n'all. no no no!



oh honey i betcha he's already tried it. matt likely told him where to file his complaint.

but now the gallery is up .. ..


Just 4 the record, if that was 2 happen, I would feel sorry for the Org as a whole because of it's members losing out. But 4 me personally I wouldn't lose much sleep over it, hell - it's just a bunch of pix at the end of the day - I enjoy my 'job' but there are far more important things going on in the world 2 get worked up and riled over like the Ken Bigley situation etc etc.

Im not speaking 4 anyone else here, but I am speaking 4 me, and Ive said it before, and Ill say it again - HQ and I have had our differences and we dont see eye 2 eye, and as 4 the 'there is no us and them mentality' that's just such utter rubbish, Im sorry - there always has been, and there always will be - 2 say any different is like sticking your fingers in your ears and going 'LALALALALALALA' very loud. lol What I dont understand is why people look upon this as such a negative, and try and brush it under the carpet - it just IS. Plain and simple. It's the natural sense of competition that makes websites 2 strive 2 be better than the rest and be ahead of the pack. But that doesnt change the fact there is plenty of room 4 all - and that in itself is the essence of what we should be fighting 4 here.

OUR VOICES.

HQ will come thru this, Im sure of it, and differences aside, when/if it comes 2 the crunch - the Org will have their back. Why? Because we're all here 4 the same reason...aren't we?

Kerchiing twocents

PS: HI BLUE!! wave hug
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Reply #127 posted 09/30/04 12:21pm

serpan99

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

...and in other news, i just noticed something in that letter p wrote up there. he misspelled the word livelihood. (shuddup, i'm a stickler for correct spelling, okay? mad)

that is all mr.green

And in more news..in letter 3 they forgot the word "be" (or "B" for some wink ) just before it says "Prince Bootleg Section" mr.green
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Reply #128 posted 09/30/04 12:22pm

OdysseyMiles

theblueangel said:

Redayh said:

I gotta tell you, the most trippy part of all this to me, is that at least one individual who has traded DVDs on the Housequake site, has gotten a letter from Prince's legal team. I think I would fall over if I opened my mailbox this evening, and there was a letter from Prince's attorneys in there. I would understand that it was his right, but I would be completely shocked.


[Snip - luv4u]


Reported! lol
I'd love to see your name in the papers too. biggrin
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Reply #129 posted 09/30/04 12:22pm

TheOrgerFormer
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theblueangel said:

Redayh said:

I gotta tell you, the most trippy part of all this to me, is that at least one individual who has traded DVDs on the Housequake site, has gotten a letter from Prince's legal team. I think I would fall over if I opened my mailbox this evening, and there was a letter from Prince's attorneys in there. I would understand that it was his right, but I would be completely shocked.


If any of the PeePee goons are watching, here's my information for your lawsuit against me:

Removed at request of poster
Langebleu


I have participated in bootleg trading and will continue to do so. In no way am I scared of your ridiculous scare tactics and I would LOOOOOVE to see my name in the papers. Go for it.
omg Blue, take your address off of here.
They know where you live anyways.
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Reply #130 posted 09/30/04 12:23pm

superspaceboy

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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

prodigalfan said:





[Edited 9/30/04 11:56am]
redface I shoulda said this note was from years ago.


I know that. I was being a smarty pants. I also DID call the number to bring up that old Nauseous feeling.

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Reply #131 posted 09/30/04 12:25pm

avatarfunk

hah!@Pee Pee Goons.

that's funny!
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Reply #132 posted 09/30/04 12:25pm

Handclapsfinga
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serpan99 said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

...and in other news, i just noticed something in that letter p wrote up there. he misspelled the word livelihood. (shuddup, i'm a stickler for correct spelling, okay? mad)

that is all mr.green

And in more news..in letter 3 they forgot the word "be" (or "B" for some wink ) just before it says "Prince Bootleg Section" mr.green

lol hi, serge! long time, no see! hug
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Reply #133 posted 09/30/04 1:09pm

Neversin

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OdysseyMiles said:

It's funny...my av over there had nothing to do with Prince.

Mine neither... I've used same one for years on every forum I frequent...

Let's hope they bring back the avvies that people either created on their own or had nothing to do with P.

Seems to me they have no choice... And I think Prince.org can't be far off concerning "unauthorised" pics and shit...
I guess it's back to amp then... Maybe it'll be a good thing when all the ole skool regulars start posting there again...

Neversin.
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Reply #134 posted 09/30/04 1:10pm

yasetshego

That just further supports the argument that his music getting out there be4 he intended it 2 is HIS fault....

>> yes I know in the past Prince has given tapes to women he was involved with who then turned around and passed them around, so no need to go there.)

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"Ain' nobody BAAAAAAAD like Meeeee!" c. Morris Day
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Reply #135 posted 09/30/04 1:13pm

serpan99

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


hi, serge! long time, no see! hug

Hiya Deja...that hug felt good, so....hug again... biggrin
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Reply #136 posted 09/30/04 1:15pm

yasetshego

Jon said:

The bootlegs are apart of the Prince legacy just as much as his official releases and Prince knows it. Do you think the Black album was just some kind of executive decision change at the last minute? I think not. It was very well calculated and thus became the biggest, ‘must have’ bootleg of the time.

It is the sum of the whole that makes us admire his genius. Not just our admiration for 20 or so albums. I can only speak for myself here, but I started turning to the bootlegs in the late 90’s for two reasons. The first reason was because they were there and I really wanted to know more and hear more from Prince. The second reason was because his official output was, to be quite blunt, pretty shit.

As far as I am concerned, it is the bootlegs COMBINED with the official stuff that has kept me interested in this freak and in my own small way contribute to the success of Musicology. But take away the bootlegs and I would have jumped ship in the late 90’s, bored and fed up with a freak that had lost his touch.

And I think I can quite confidently say that if there were no circulating bootlegs at all, Princes fan base would be somewhat smaller than it is now. Maybe Prince should ask himself how successful Musicology would have been without his fan base. He would have never made it through the 90’s without us.

The man is seriously confused about the whole issue. My god, there is no doubt in my mind that Prince has used the bootleg market to his own advantage in the past. He cant suddenly turn against it at a whim because he suddenly feels he doesnt need it. And to direct his displeasure at the very people that have helped him struggle through the past ten years is just downright stupid.

By turning against the bootleg market, or more specifically his fans that have delved into the bootleg market, he is categorically stating that he only wants us to listen to his official releases. In my opinion, his official releases alone diminish his standing as a true genius, especially over the last decade. And I think that Prince thrives on the perception people have of him.

It really doesn’t have anything to do with buying bootlegs or trading them. Go on Kazaa and type in Prince and see what comes up. The majority of it is official stuff. This is very different to bootlegging, this is pirating and is a completely different moral and financial argument altogether. But bootlegs are not for sale, never have been for sale and would otherwise be collecting dust and deteriorating in a vault somewhere. The fact that someone has got hold of them and is now selling/trading them unofficially does nothing except enhance the legacy of the artist.

If he doesn’t want them out there to be discussed/traded/sold, then perhaps he should beef up his security and stop leaving stuff lying around to be picked up by a passer by. Or is that the real plan behind this whole charade?

The bootlegs have been good for Prince and always will be.



You are SOOOO right!
"Ain' nobody BAAAAAAAD like Meeeee!" c. Morris Day
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Reply #137 posted 09/30/04 1:21pm

serpan99

Neversin said:


Seems to me they have no choice... And I think Prince.org can't be far off concerning "unauthorised" pics and shit...
I guess it's back to amp then... Maybe it'll be a good thing when all the ole skool regulars start posting there again...

Neversin.

Regarding the avatars...I would assume HQ had no other option then delete every avatar at once since they had 2 remove every Prince pic at once. It would not be realistic 2 decide on every single avatar if it's allowed or not at the moment right?
No idea if this site will be questioned about showing the Prince images, but one would assume that if they do go to court sueing one site then why not others...
The 3rd letter HQ received pointed out that they are not just aiming at HQ regarding the trading of bootlegs, also bootleg labels, and newsgroups like the trading via binaries and stuff would be looked at. Even individual traders have been under close watch...so I fear there's more 2 come...
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Reply #138 posted 09/30/04 1:34pm

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Dedicate 2 Prince:

Prince, shhhhh
Break the vault
I don't wanna hear any other sound
Bootlegs
Are fan's thang
Keepin' us from tradin' 'em, U betta not dare
U should really break the vault, vault vault

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Reply #139 posted 09/30/04 1:44pm

Zelaira

Ask PRINCE what he thinks of ZELAIRA??? He thinks me a CRAZY FOOL. Like he DON"T KNOW he's ALL that and SOME MORE! Pisses me Off that he says Takes ALL Kinds when we think he's a SEx BOMB or Wanting him to show his STUFF! The Man is Fine as All Hell and Acting like his skin be OLD??? HE be Drinkin or Smokin some BAD SHIT! Prince , is the ULTIMATE ORGASM...DON'ty YA KNOW?? YA SHOULd or SHUT-Up .....ALREADY....DAMN!!!!
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Reply #140 posted 09/30/04 1:47pm

Handclapsfinga
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Zelaira said:

stuff

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Reply #141 posted 09/30/04 1:54pm

Neversin

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serpan99 said:

Regarding the avatars...I would assume HQ had no other option then delete every avatar at once since they had 2 remove every Prince pic at once. It would not be realistic 2 decide on every single avatar if it's allowed or not at the moment right?

I get that...

No idea if this site will be questioned about showing the Prince images, but one would assume that if they do go to court sueing one site then why not others...
The 3rd letter HQ received pointed out that they are not just aiming at HQ regarding the trading of bootlegs, also bootleg labels, and newsgroups like the trading via binaries and stuff would be looked at. Even individual traders have been under close watch...so I fear there's more 2 come...

This is so 1996 again...
I was sent a "Cease and Desist" letter concerning SELLING "unauthorised" and "illegal" recordings back then with an "order" to send all of it back to Paisley Park, of course I sent them a letter back telling them to literally show it up their peehole since I never had and never will sell any of that stuff... Never heard from 'em again...
But what fucked with me the most was how they got all that information on me and who "sold out" (but I probably already know considering Love4OneAnother/NPGonlineLTD/NPGMC...)
I don't know what they can do about NG's but probably nothing, same goes for filesharing and P2P software like Bittorrent (which is legal...)
So anyone with a website dedicated to that little fool beware cos the dogs have been sent out... Yet again... And they're coming to bite the hands that feed them...

Neversin.
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Reply #142 posted 09/30/04 2:13pm

SynthiaRose

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How ironic people are defending prince when he files a lawsuit, simply because its his right to do so. But GOD FORBID, some of us filed BBB complaints back in 2002, when that was our right to do so as well.

BS like this is the #1 reason I have no problem asserting my rights as well when the "club" fucks around with it's customers.

This is also the same reason Prince deserves to get sued when his bodyguards steal someones camera...

And I have less and less sympathy for his battle with the big bad record companies. Because after all, he signed it away, it's their right to keep it.

It's all about ethics, when Prince needs something and the law isn't on his side. But when Prince wants to start some shit of his own, its all about the letter of the law.




Hear, hear!
An excellent perspective
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Reply #143 posted 09/30/04 2:13pm

theblueangel

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Neversin said:

But what fucked with me the most was how they got all that information on me and who "sold out" (but I probably already know considering Love4OneAnother/NPGonlineLTD/NPGMC...)



If you're talking about who I think you're talking about, then I would bet money you got your (ahem) man.
No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

Need more sleep than coke or methamphetamine.
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Reply #144 posted 09/30/04 2:17pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Zelaira said:

stuff



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Reply #145 posted 09/30/04 2:51pm

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This thread has more lives than a black cat! I keep seeing it disappear and then reappear. It's obviously not deleted..is it hidden?

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Reply #146 posted 09/30/04 3:08pm

bananacologne

superspaceboy said:

This thread has more lives than a black cat! I keep seeing it disappear and then reappear. It's obviously not deleted..is it hidden?


It was banished 2 the 5th dimension 4 awhile 'tis all. stoned
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Reply #147 posted 09/30/04 3:43pm

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bananacologne said:

superspaceboy said:

This thread has more lives than a black cat! I keep seeing it disappear and then reappear. It's obviously not deleted..is it hidden?


It was banished 2 the 5th dimension 4 awhile 'tis all. stoned


I'm going to laugh when he comes down on this board too....all of you think you are safe, but we'll see.
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Reply #148 posted 09/30/04 3:57pm

bananacologne

RupertZ said:

bananacologne said:



It was banished 2 the 5th dimension 4 awhile 'tis all. stoned


I'm going to laugh when he comes down on this board too....all of you think you are safe, but we'll see.


Your point please.
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Reply #149 posted 09/30/04 4:36pm

Neversin

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bananacologne said:

Your point please.

The guy is obviously new to this whole "cease and desist" shit, so just point and laugh...

Neversin.
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