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Some people just want Prince to go back to the way we perceived him 20 years ago. I say if you can't accept him as he is, then you are not a true fan. I prefer the Prince of 20 years ago. A true fan has been there since the early days (before "Little Red Corvette") and has stuck with him through all the weird style changes throughout the years. There's a difference between a fan and a fanatic. Some people are so obsessed that they will agree with every thing Prince does and change themselves to follow Prince's program. We are all individuals just the same as Prince is and do not have to agree with every little single thing he does. That does not mean we are not true fans. If I weren't a true fan, I would have turned my back on him after "Around The World In A Day". [Edited 9/26/04 6:35am] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: psykosoul said: There's really no valid reason why people should believe that Larry made a significant change in Prince's music. Prince's music became lightweight funk/formulaic R&B with Emancipation, that album he was born to make which was prior to Prince's first meeting with Graham in 1997. So Larry had nothing to do with Prince's music starting to suck. I think folks need someone to point the finger at besides Prince and Larry is just happening to play the scapegoat.
There are going to be tons of responses that say Larry got Prince too caught up into God and religion which is a bunch of bullshit that really doesn't deserve a response considering Prince has been into "God stuff" and "pseudo-preaching" since the early 80s. Saying you don't like their collaborative efforts is one thing, but hating the day they met and feeling the need to become violently ill at the thought of Graham is just plain stupid. Some folks act like Graham is to Prince was Yoko was to the Beatles. The only difference is that Prince had been "broken up" long before Graham came along. One of the main reasons I think folks are so quick to hate Graham is because of the stigma and misconceptions about the Jehovah's Witness faith. What's silly is that when Prince is pretending to stand for something (i.e. 'Slave' on the cheek, assless pants, and name changes) the ideals may not be embraced by everyone, but it's respected as a decision that Prince made because he felt he had to. I don't understand why the same isn't applied in the Larry/JW era. I welcomed the change because it got his music out of that formulaic R&B rut he'd been in for 5 years. [Edited 9/24/04 19:18pm] Prince had been into God for forever. Nobody is saying he wasn't. Larry was there to push him over the edge when he needed therapy, not some guilt trip. ----- Please stop with you blanket statments about religion. Eveybody that is religious is not mental. For some people religion is the thing that holds them together. No one has a right to put down someone's else belief. I do not agree with everything that goes on with JW's but Prince has a right to believe what he wants and be happy. It is not for anyone else to say. Beside he appears to be more down to earth and rational. | |
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Hotlegs said: jpav said: I was just thinking about this today...
Listened to my "live" CD of the NPS tour show I saw in Philly, and remember Larry walking in with his wife, past the line of folks waiting to get into the show. (I didn't know who he was to look at him), and I remember thinking, "What a nice guy!" He spent time with fans, taking pictures, shaking hands, smiling. Later when I realized who he was, saw the show, and witnessed the three hours of slammin' bass he and Prince layed down, I was blown away!!! Simply stated, there are two groups of people who dislike Larry: 1) People who don't like funk. 2) People who are threatened by anyone in entertainment who expresses their religious beliefs publicly. The guy's chops are without question, his place in funk history is secure, and he's one hell of a nice man, a true gentlemen... Those who berate him and put him down, show who they really are!   I couldn't said it any better myself. You hit it right on the nail. ----- You did hit the nail on the head. The combonation of "Funk haters and anti-religious people on this board is unreal. | |
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I don't understand why everyone is so upset that Prince found religion. He seems to be more at peace with himself. If you admire someone's work, or "love" him as many people say they do, then don't you care about his spirit, his soul. I don't like that Prince has let go of some of the more risque' behavior and lyrics, but I support him trying to be happy and at peace.
We all have to die one day and some people feel the need to be in harmony with their greater power, whether that is God, Jehovah, Allah, etc., when the moment of transition is at hand. It just seems very selfish and self centered to criticize Larry for alledgely introducing prince to JW. When Prince is taking his last breath, he is not going to worry about this song or that concert... and I guarantee you, you won't either. Most likely you will be thinking about what is waiting for you around the corner. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: . Larry was there to push him over the edge when he needed therapy, not some guilt trip.
I guess I missed this part. When did Prince need some therapy? What did he do to make people think this? Was this during the  era? Was this during the period of
1) leaving the only record label he ever been with, 2) getting married 3) baby dying 4) marriage ending 5) losing both parents within a year These events grouped within a 5 year span would make anyone re-evaluate their life and beliefs. Some people find solace talking it out, others find solace in talking it out with God. If the end result is that you are at peace with yourself, I think either way is fine. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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psykosoul said: It's not censorship. It's a choice. He's not pretending like that portion of his catalog doesn't exist. If Prince chooses not to sing certain words anymore, it doesn't leave any restrictions on him as a performer nor you as a listener. Go to the show. Admire him as a performer. When you get home, pop in the original classics and live it up with all of the "shits", "asses", "fucks", and "muthafuckas" you like. There's no reason anyone shouldn't get their preference. [Edited 9/25/04 18:52pm] [/quote] "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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Moonwalkbjrain said: ok now...first off...prince has been a Godly dude since day one u feel me? listen to ANY album from like controversy on down and there is @LEAST one God reference on there...as for mr. graham i could give 2 shits about him introducin P to the Jehova's Witness faith.....IT'S WHAT THEY DO!!! u all act as if prince is a child and larry is the daddy and he's makin prince do it...all larry did was lower the bait into the pond and prince took it...if u wanna b mad @ anyone be mad @ prince and God...but C i knooooo u all aint about to start hatin on God HISSELF!! so then be pissed @ prince...i personally don't agree with the jw.faith..no offense to anyone here who is one but i kind of view the jw as a legalized cult..but then i kinda view most religions that way...BUT its prince's choice and i respect it cuz i respect him...now did any of yall think that maybe just maybe prince turned to religion because he was goin thru some shit? his kids dead...his career aint doin that good...his marriage is on the rocks...AND on top of it all he has to act as if everythin is just PEACHY! man thats enough to make a some what sane man go bizerk! so on that front i'm a bit happy he got closer to God..even if tha do mean joinin an organized religion....so i guess to end this all don't hate larry just cuz he got to prince b4 u did!
cosign!  "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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Moonwalkbjrain said: Soulchild82 said: So are catholics a cult since they follow the pope? i don't really view cults as groups that follow a man....although i kno thats a way of defining it...but its like they have all these super strict rules...and then all that cover up nonsense...and with the whole jw u gotta go door to door and its all those rules...no long hair, no blood transfusions (yes o yes i'd rather let my child die then help them), they keep tabs on u..i mean no offense to any one out there who is one, its just my view of the whole thing. thats just how i c it. i feel like u shouldn't have to follow stuff to a T to beleive in and love god.. No long hair???  You mean Prince can't grow his hair long again???
Oh well THAT did it!!! I can't take these JW rules anymore. 
first erotic city and now this. Next you are going to tell me that Prince can't wear proccessed hair and he has to wear a short natural.
j/k (well j/k a little bit) "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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vainandy said:[quote If I weren't a true fan, I would have turned my back on him after "Around The World In A Day".
[Edited 9/26/04 6:35am] [/quote] OK OK!!! So what I turned my back on him after AWTWIAD!! I'm back! ok??!! I have apologized, you don't have to rub my nose in it!  "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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prodigalfan said: Moonwalkbjrain said: i don't really view cults as groups that follow a man....although i kno thats a way of defining it...but its like they have all these super strict rules...and then all that cover up nonsense...and with the whole jw u gotta go door to door and its all those rules...no long hair, no blood transfusions (yes o yes i'd rather let my child die then help them), they keep tabs on u..i mean no offense to any one out there who is one, its just my view of the whole thing. thats just how i c it. i feel like u shouldn't have to follow stuff to a T to beleive in and love god.. No long hair??? You mean Prince can't grow his hair long again???
Oh well THAT did it!!! I can't take these JW rules anymore.
first erotic city and now this. Next you are going to tell me that Prince can't wear proccessed hair and he has to wear a short natural.
j/k (well j/k a little bit) ok i knew this crap and im baptist.omg this is like the post ive dreamed of   oh thats the good life | |
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Soulchild82 said: Moonwalkbjrain said: i feel like u shouldn't have to follow stuff to a T to beleive in and love god.. well you shouldv'e said that instead of finger pointing at Prince's faith. i wasn't pointin a finger at prince's faith...if u view my original post i said i personally don't agree with the jw.faith..no offense to anyone here who is one but i kind of view the jw as a legalized cult..but then i kinda view most religions that way.. stank u and have a nice day!  Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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1) why's this in the wrong forum?
2) why does this have to be asked again? thought we've already gone over this numerous times, man... | |
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