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Prince bigger than Madonna

Could Prince become as huge as Madonna in Popularity?
What do U think?
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Reply #1 posted 09/16/04 9:17pm

AsianBomb777

No.
He doesn't have a vagina.
Makes for a poor beaver shot.
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Reply #2 posted 09/16/04 9:44pm

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Well, Madonna has never had a successful movie or an album that was number 1 for 6 monthes. I'd say back in 1985, Prince was a LOT bigger than Madonna. And today, he has a very successful album(something she hasn't had in a couple of years) and a huge tour. Of course, she got on the bandwagon when she saw Prince making his comeback, and decided to do a "hits" tour herself. What a surprise. Madonna copying someone. We've all heard the hype about how well her tour is doing(at $300.00 a ticket for lip syncing), but we all know she can only sell out venues in really large cities. Madonna could not sell out Raleigh North Carolina, Columbia South Carolina or any other secondary market. Why do you think she's writing children's books now? What happens when music artists can't sell records? They write books or try to act. Prince wins in the end. He has a lot more respect from the industry and right now from the general public.
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Reply #3 posted 09/16/04 9:57pm

priceless

AsianBomb777 said:

No.
He doesn't have a vagina.
Makes for a poor beaver shot.


lol i know what u mean
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Reply #4 posted 09/16/04 10:03pm

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jstarr2000 said:

Well, Madonna has never had a successful movie or an album that was number 1 for 6 monthes. I'd say back in 1985, Prince was a LOT bigger than Madonna. And today, he has a very successful album(something she hasn't had in a couple of years) and a huge tour. Of course, she got on the bandwagon when she saw Prince making his comeback, and decided to do a "hits" tour herself. What a surprise. Madonna copying someone. We've all heard the hype about how well her tour is doing(at $300.00 a ticket for lip syncing), but we all know she can only sell out venues in really large cities. Madonna could not sell out Raleigh North Carolina, Columbia South Carolina or any other secondary market. Why do you think she's writing children's books now? What happens when music artists can't sell records? They write books or try to act. Prince wins in the end. He has a lot more respect from the industry and right now from the general public.



but Madonna (the Madonna Louise Ciccone) has more websites, in more books (biographies, history and other), pictures, merchandise, video clips and other movie appearances, people working for her etc etc
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Reply #5 posted 09/16/04 10:04pm

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As far as popularity goes, Prince was way more popular than Madonna in the early 1980s. Madonna passed him in the late 1980s. I think if he had never changed his style after "Purple Rain", she would never have even come close to touching his popularity.

By the way, good comparison! It was very obvious from 1989 till around 1991, that Madonna was following in the early Prince's footsteps with sex and controversy.
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Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #6 posted 09/17/04 1:36am

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From a musical point, Prince IS bigger than Madonna, in the way he's influenced generations of artists and musicians (including Madonna).

But Madonna is bigger in a purely popularity sense. And she's influenced pop culture a lot too. But then, she's always been actively seeking that popularity in a way that Prince never has. Madonna would never deliberately make an experimental, difficult, obtuse album, she always wants something that is gonna be a hit and sell lots. She follows the current trends, Prince goes his own way (mostly).
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Reply #7 posted 09/17/04 2:02am

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jstarr2000 said:

Well, Madonna has never had a successful movie or an album that was number 1 for 6 monthes. I'd say back in 1985, Prince was a LOT bigger than Madonna. And today, he has a very successful album(something she hasn't had in a couple of years) and a huge tour. Of course, she got on the bandwagon when she saw Prince making his comeback, and decided to do a "hits" tour herself. What a surprise. Madonna copying someone. We've all heard the hype about how well her tour is doing(at $300.00 a ticket for lip syncing), but we all know she can only sell out venues in really large cities. Madonna could not sell out Raleigh North Carolina, Columbia South Carolina or any other secondary market. Why do you think she's writing children's books now? What happens when music artists can't sell records? They write books or try to act. Prince wins in the end. He has a lot more respect from the industry and right now from the general public.


Yes in 1985 Prince was bigger than Madonna.

Other than that everything you have just said is utter toss.

Give the girl credit where credit is due and stop making such ridiculous comments please.
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Reply #8 posted 09/17/04 2:11am

robertlove

Well, as much as i like Prince, Madonna has been much more popular than Prince for years! He may have a sold out tour right now...but that's the only thing. In Europe for example, Musicology didn't do well, u never see him on tv and a lot of people i talk to don't even know he still makes records. Sure, MAdonna's latest didn't do that well, but 'Die another day' was huge, Music was huge, Don't tell was huge, and in Holland she sold out 2 huge concert halls, with those ticket prices, Prince wouldn't have....
I'm glad his latest cd was a succes in the US, but i still have doubts with the ticket+cd method... i know it's all 'legal' but it doesn't show that he's popular or not, without this method, the cd would have been down for a long time.... it just says people don't go to the record store to buy the Prince cd.....
But.....is it very important that an artist is popular? I just like Prince to make great music, as he does..... does it really bother he's not in the charts?
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Reply #9 posted 09/17/04 2:39am

DavidEye

jstarr2000 said:

Well, Madonna has never had a successful movie or an album that was number 1 for 6 monthes. I'd say back in 1985, Prince was a LOT bigger than Madonna. And today, he has a very successful album(something she hasn't had in a couple of years) and a huge tour. Of course, she got on the bandwagon when she saw Prince making his comeback, and decided to do a "hits" tour herself. What a surprise. Madonna copying someone. We've all heard the hype about how well her tour is doing(at $300.00 a ticket for lip syncing), but we all know she can only sell out venues in really large cities. Madonna could not sell out Raleigh North Carolina, Columbia South Carolina or any other secondary market. Why do you think she's writing children's books now? What happens when music artists can't sell records? They write books or try to act. Prince wins in the end. He has a lot more respect from the industry and right now from the general public.



Do not get me started! rolleyes


Madonna has had several successful movies..."Desperately Seeking Susan","Dick Tracy","Truth Or Dare","A League Of Their Own" and "Evita".And Madonna has recorded only ONE album that can truly be called a flop ("American Life",which still managed to sell over 5 million copies worldwide).It's worth noting that her previous album 'Music' has sold over 14 million copies worldwide.So much for your theory that she hasn't "had a successful album in a couple of years".As for Madonna "jumping on the bandwagon with a tour of her own when she saw Prince making a comeback"...lol....you are so fuckin' clueless! As if Madonna sits around and watches what Prince does,and then decides to copy his every move.Just so you know,Madonna was talking about a tour way back in spring 2003, LONG BEFORE PRINCE ANNOUNCED A TOUR .Using your logic,I guess we could also accuse Sting,Annie Lennox,Fleetwood Mac,Eric Clapton and others of trying to "steal Prince's thunder" since these artists all went on tour this summer too.And Madonna's tour could sellout ANYWHERE on the globe,her popularity is massive.I just read an article in Billboard about her tour grossing a total of $124 million,but I suppose you're gonna try to dismiss that too,huh? Seems to me that the real problem you have with Madonna is that she is still massively successful and you can't stand it.
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Reply #10 posted 09/17/04 2:41am

Nikki4u

Madonna knows how to hype herself thats what she has done for years ...she has two young children: yet kissed two women on stage in front of millions ...to get more headlines more attention .look at her sex book,or all the rumours she fucked her way to the top..Prince has more talent .musically ..i dont think he cares about her being more popular he is a better musician /singer ....Madonna is a media whore who borrows other peoples music and producers to make her albums ..i think Prince prefers his talent to her popularity.
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Reply #11 posted 09/17/04 2:56am

DavidEye

MADONNA ENDS REINVENTION TOUR ON HIGH NOTE
TREK GROSSES $124.5 MILLION,PLAYS TO 880,000

September 15,2004 11:00 AM ET
By Ray Riddell,Nashville (Billboard)


Madonna wrapped up her Reinvention Tour last night (Sep.14) with the second of two sellouts at the Pavilhao Atlantico in Lisbon,Portugal.

The tour,destined to be the top-grossing trek of 2004,grossed $124.5 million and played to 880,000 people,according to producers.

The tour was produced worldwide by Clear Channel Entertainment's touring division."Madonna's Reinvention tour was a brilliant success on every level," Arthur Fogel,president of CCE Touring,tells Billboard.biz

Madonna was particularly hot in the U.K.,where she grossed $9.8 million from four sellouts at Wembley Arena in London,$6.3 million from two sellouts at Earl's Court in London,and $5.1 million from two sellouts at the Manchester Evening News in Manchester,England.

Reinvention's North American run was topped by six sellouts at New York's Madison Square Garden that grossed $12.7 million; she also took in $7.9 million from four sellouts at the United Center in Chicago,$7 million from two sellouts at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas,$7 million from three sellouts at the Forum in L.A.,and $6.4 million from four sellouts at the Centrum in Worcester,Mass
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Reply #12 posted 09/17/04 3:04am

DavidEye

jstarr2000 said:

We've all heard the hype about how well her tour is doing(at $300.00 a ticket for lip syncing), but we all know she can only sell out venues in really large cities. Madonna could not sell out Raleigh North Carolina, Columbia South Carolina or any other secondary market.



Bullshit.Madonna could sellout anywhere on the globe.I heard that Clear Channel tried to convince her to extend her tour until Christmas,because it was doing so well.They wanted to add dates in places like Texas,Michigan,Ohio,etc and there is no doubt that she would have sold out those places too.Hate her music,hate her style,hate her movies,fine.But when it comes to touring,at least you can admit that she knows what she's doing.
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Reply #13 posted 09/17/04 3:20am

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Nikki4u said:

Madonna knows how to hype herself thats what she has done for years ...she has two young children: yet kissed two women on stage in front of millions ...to get more headlines more attention .look at her sex book,or all the rumours she fucked her way to the top..Prince has more talent .musically ..i dont think he cares about her being more popular he is a better musician /singer ....Madonna is a media whore who borrows other peoples music and producers to make her albums ..i think Prince prefers his talent to her popularity.


Sorry. Is there something wrong with kissing a woman?
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Reply #14 posted 09/17/04 3:58am

Nikki4u

adoreme said:

Nikki4u said:

Madonna knows how to hype herself thats what she has done for years ...she has two young children: yet kissed two women on stage in front of millions ...to get more headlines more attention .look at her sex book,or all the rumours she fucked her way to the top..Prince has more talent .musically ..i dont think he cares about her being more popular he is a better musician /singer ....Madonna is a media whore who borrows other peoples music and producers to make her albums ..i think Prince prefers his talent to her popularity.


Sorry. Is there something wrong with kissing a woman?
Yes she is a 46 year old married mother she is not 24 any more ...its not kissing the woman its just she is attention mad ...she hated Britney or Christina stealing her limelight eek
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Reply #15 posted 09/17/04 4:02am

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Nikki4u said:

adoreme said:



Sorry. Is there something wrong with kissing a woman?
Yes she is a 46 year old married mother she is not 24 any more ...its not kissing the woman its just she is attention mad ...she hated Britney or Christina stealing her limelight eek



It's part of being an entertainer.Remember when Prince appeared on the VMAs in 1991? His dancers were simulating an orgy and he was wearing ass-less pants.
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Reply #16 posted 09/17/04 4:04am

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Nikki4u said:

adoreme said:



Sorry. Is there something wrong with kissing a woman?
Yes she is a 46 year old married mother she is not 24 any more ...its not kissing the woman its just she is attention mad ...she hated Britney or Christina stealing her limelight eek


It was just a kiss, honey.

You obviously don't like the woman and refuse to give her any credit for her achievements which is fair enought but don't go all self-righteous. A kiss between two women is only offensive to the sort of narrow-minded people who tried to sue Janet Jackson for flashing a breast.

Jees. neutral
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Reply #17 posted 09/17/04 4:06am

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DavidEye said:

Nikki4u said:

Yes she is a 46 year old married mother she is not 24 any more ...its not kissing the woman its just she is attention mad ...she hated Britney or Christina stealing her limelight eek



It's part of being an entertainer.Remember when Prince appeared on the VMAs in 1991? His dancers were simulating an orgy and he was wearing ass-less pants.


lol


Aah - DavidEye - it's you and me fighting the fight again!
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Reply #18 posted 09/17/04 4:06am

jayaredee

wow the people who hate Madonna should really use facts and stop pulling shit out of their ass. they reall look dumb when posting a whole bunch of slanderous things.
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Reply #19 posted 09/17/04 4:07am

adoreme

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jayaredee said:

wow the people who hate Madonna should really use facts and stop pulling shit out of their ass. they reall look dumb when posting a whole bunch of slanderous things.


Hurray! Another one!

Well said, Jayaredee. biggrin
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Reply #20 posted 09/17/04 4:07am

DavidEye

adoreme said:

DavidEye said:




It's part of being an entertainer.Remember when Prince appeared on the VMAs in 1991? His dancers were simulating an orgy and he was wearing ass-less pants.


lol


Aah - DavidEye - it's you and me fighting the fight again!



lol
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Reply #21 posted 09/17/04 4:08am

DavidEye

jayaredee said:

wow the people who hate Madonna should really use facts and stop pulling shit out of their ass. they reall look dumb when posting a whole bunch of slanderous things.



clapping
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Reply #22 posted 09/17/04 4:29am

PurpleShades

I'm afraid not. Madonna is so much more than just a pop star.
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Reply #23 posted 09/17/04 4:32am

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Nikki4u said:

adoreme said:



Sorry. Is there something wrong with kissing a woman?
Yes she is a 46 year old married mother she is not 24 any more ...its not kissing the woman its just she is attention mad ...she hated Britney or Christina stealing her limelight eek



If it had been about Britney or Christina stealing her thunder, she would have pulled a stunt on her own instead of including them.

So what's your point? What do her being a 46 year old mother of two and her kissing other women have to do with each other?
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"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #24 posted 09/17/04 4:35am

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Nope! Prince is a teeny guy. Madonna's bigger. nod
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #25 posted 09/17/04 4:37am

jayaredee

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Nope! Prince is a teeny guy. Madonna's bigger. nod


LOL

But actually, when my aunt's boss was up close at the show and she came out on to the catwalk she said that Madonna is very petite.
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Reply #26 posted 09/17/04 4:51am

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jayaredee said:

meow85 said:

Nope! Prince is a teeny guy. Madonna's bigger. nod


LOL

But actually, when my aunt's boss was up close at the show and she came out on to the catwalk she said that Madonna is very petite.


I believe that. Just saying, Maddy's likely got at least a two or three inch edge on him in the height department.
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Reply #27 posted 09/17/04 4:55am

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Madge is 5'4 (the average height for the american woman). I think Prince is 5'3 so there's only an inch in it.
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Reply #28 posted 09/17/04 4:59am

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priceless said:

Could Prince become as huge as Madonna in Popularity?
What do U think?


Huh? Prince has ALWAYS been bigger than Madonna. Sure, she puts books out showing her cooter, but Prince, musically, has always been bigger (at least with the critics).

Luv & Peace,
Alex
Did rock just die?
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Reply #29 posted 09/17/04 5:07am

DavidEye

omnithanos said:

Madge is 5'4 (the average height for the american woman). I think Prince is 5'3 so there's only an inch in it.



Actually,Prince is 5'2 lol
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