DTrickyB said:

But isn't incest said to be disgusting, vile, and immoral? When I heard that lyric, I didn't think he was promoting incest, I thought he was condemning it after having been sexually assaulted by his sister. Right after he says "Incest is everything it's said to be," he goes on to sing:

"Oh sister - don't put me on the street again
Oh sister - I just wanna be your friend

I was only 16 and only half a man
My sister didn't give a goddamn
She only wanted 2 turn me out
She'd take a whip 2 me until I shout
Oh motherfucker, she's a motherfucker, can't U understand?"

I think the lyric would be irresponsible had Prince said, "Incest is not everything it is said to be." But because it's known as a horrific thing, he's essentially agreeing with this widely accepted opinion of it in light of his experiences with his "Sister." And because he calls her a motherfucker, he obviously doesn't enjoy being whipped by her.

I was just reading over so many of your post and thinking well I was thinking does anyone here have a clue about the what ironic satire is?

For instance the song "Sister". The lyrics were not negative, and would not be considered negative if you not only listen to the words, but also feel the inner of someone who has been molested or constantly raped. Eventually some begin to feel as tho it is the norm. Falling in a "Love" condition with the molestor or rapist.

said Scandulous...



was referring to the common problem with taking some girls virginity (besides not being able to get rid of them) is that some guys who may be a little more blessed than some will cause the HYMEN to rip those causing the virgin to bleed a "river of blood"


and the
"I dont wanna know (I don't wanna know)
Why those before us hated each other

I'd rather believe they never did
I'd rather believe (I'd rather, I'd rather believe)
That there's hope 4 a kid".
lyrics from "Race"
come the f-ck on. Deny as much as you want people but Racism is alive and even someone as rich and famous as Prince knows it. The crazy thing is that Abraham Lincoln was probably a racist and Martin Luther King would have probably went berserk if his daught came home with a white boy.

thescandalouslife said:

Right. Well said.
This song is often misinterpreted.
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P.S. It appears some posters might not understand the word irresponsible ... because some of these responses are so off ....

i was going to say the lyrics from sister, but then someone posted them and i realised it's not a song FOR incest, but against! never realised that till today!


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[Edited 9/10/04 22:40pm]

christtracy said:

JW believe the GOV are workers of the Devil. They make exceptions for JW that work in the Post Office, example. But Prince would be going against his religion if he actually endorsed a candidate.

I think, unless you're retarded, you can figure out which candidate Prince would vote for. Here's a hint: it ain't Bush.

Personally, if you have any integrity, you'll be voting for Nader or another third party candidate you believe in. Kerry is bad. Bush is horrible, rotten and scary. Why vote for either?

Luv & Peace,
Alex
Clubbin' in Mpls/A Night w. Prince
[Edited 9/11/04 1:38am]

purplelullaby said:

I'm finding it hard 2 write a serious reply after readin that lol. Oh man... that's the kind of funny that kills

That terrible advertisement of a hidden track on "Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic". That was sheer capitalism. Shame on you, Prince.

"Make Love Not War" sounds simple enough and good on the surface. But if you look at what happens during lovemaking (the creation of new life) it seems as if he should offer some type of solution to the raising of unwanted children. Even if they are 'wanted' children are often neglected, mistreated and abused. Our society has many issues concerning domestic care and upbringing. Not everyone wants to use birth control pills which destroy life at a very early stage. Maybe the bloodshed isn't as noticeable as it is with slain soldiers when early pregnancy is terminated. Yet many lives will be destroyed in the solution that Prince is suggesting.

lmas said:

I was the one that mentioned that line in I Wanna Melt With U and I know what he is talking about, but I think P has/had an unhealthy obession for teenaged virgins. He makes references to 'jailbait' quite a few times thoughtout his career. He was a grown man when he wrote that song. I hope he is past that phase.

thescandalouslife said:

Well, I just don't like it!

I think his most irresponsible lyric is from "Props and Pounds:

Haaaaa. I know! When I listen to that song, now, I'm thinking: Yech, that would be a turn off. It sounds like something an inexperienced teen-ager (that didn't have s-- a lot and so happy to be around a "hot" girl for the first time) would do!

DTrickyB said:

...I know, thats that what i said at first
[Edited 9/11/04 10:58am]

funkyraveparade14 said:[quote]

DTrickyB said:

.. wait.....so, that actually did happen 2 him?
[Edited 9/11/04 11:01am]

The lyrics to Race are some of his all-time best. He's not saying that racism doesn't exist, he's saying that it'd be great if people could stop obsessing on past injustices and just start over and not treat others with racism. Obviously, he doesn't really believe this, but it is an idealist statement. The opposite of this attitude is people who still whine and complain about American slavery 150 years ago...he's saying "get over it" and move on to a better way of doing things.

I'd have to agree that the "rape" line in Extra Lovable is the worst. The lyrics to sister are a bit extreme, but so extreme that's it's difficult to take them seriously.

purplecloud said:

Personally, I'd prefer that they teach children how to spell, i.e. TAUGHT, RESPONSIBILITY, and CANDIDATE!! It's a shame that bad spelling and poor grammar aren't considered un-American!!

SexyBeautifulOne said:

SOMTIMES PROPER GRAMMER IS A WASTEOF TIME
ENGLISH CLASS IS FULL OF RULES
I LIKE TO BREAK RULES IT IS ONE OF THE REASONS
I WAS ATTRACTED TO PRINCES MUSIC

DTrickyB said:

You're a square. You sensitive wuss lol. Or would it be more appropriate to call you a double drag?
[Edited 9/11/04 11:51am]

AsianBomb777 said:

You might be right on this one.

paintsprayer said:

True. For those who don't understand what he is trying to say, would advise them to check out the Illumanti post in the Politic and Religion Section and they will see what is trying to tell you in a slick way.
[Edited 9/11/04 12:45pm]

DTrickyB said:

Co-sign.

most irrespnsible lyric?? w/o a doubt

"Orion's Arms are wide enough to hold us both together"..BAD PRINCE...BAD PRINCE!

LoveAlive said:

You won't get an arguement out of me on this one. I wasn't feeling that song neither.

DTrickyB said:

lol naah if we goin talk about sister than the most messed up line from that song is

I was only 16 and only half a man
My sister didn't give a goddamn
She only wanted 2 turn me out
She'd take a whip 2 me until I shout
Oh motherfucker, she's a motherfucker, can't U understand?"

good gawd almighty!


good gawd! that illuminati shit is scary..i read a bit about it a while back and don't care to read about it again! whoaaaaa
[Edited 9/11/04 15:01pm]

theblueangel said:

Co-sign. First time I realized these were the lyrics, I was like...WTF!!??!

PurpleCharm said:

considering the way most 18 & over girls look these days and the fact that Prince still has a lot of young girls at his concerts, can U blame him. I mean did you ever get a look at Mayte? She was f-cking awesome. even at 16(?) years old. No offense but if you had to choose between Jessica Simpson and Madonna in bed who would U choose? Me? Jessie all the way for a lot of reasons, but mostly because she's super fine
[Edited 9/11/04 18:34pm]

Snap said:

The 2-party system might be fraught with problems (I think it is), but there ARE differences. Pick one--abortion stance, gay marriage stance, tendency to Imperialist attitudes, record of valor/dedication to country, ability to admit mistakes (or not), etc., and realize that the power of the presidency IS significant, and effects change. Real change! Maybe no president in the near future is going to have a coherent energy policy, a great foreign policy, or even deliver something resembling national healthcare... but if you even care about one of these other issues, the candidate you pick will make a difference.

And voting for Nader is throwing your vote away IMO. If you don't think your candidate has any chance of winning, there's really no point in voting for them. Maybe get active earlier, and try to make it feasible for them to win... but once it's clear they can't, do the smart thing and at least choose the lesser of two evils, if you believe those are the alternatives. Being practical is a bit part of democracy...!

Sly said:

i have been thinking about that verse lately
it seemed to me that he was brushing what had happened under the carpet
and to maybe try to forgive and forget.But it seems now as though he brings things like that up quite abit now,references in Dear Mr Man,When will we be paid,family name.
Which leads me to the lyric that i find completely unnesecary "Holocaust aside,many lived and died but when all truth is told,would you rather be dead or be sold"Now im not saying that slavery wasnt as bad as millions of Jews being killed but to even try and compare the two doesnt seem too fair.

who is more irresponsible?

the one who lit the fuse to the bomb or the one who built it?
[Edited 9/12/04 13:04pm]