http://www.thesmokinggun....ince1.html


Looks like a combination of the current one & the old one..

sample page:


[Edited 9/9/04 12:11pm]

Who's sick? Seems like they need a docotor every day @ 6pm? Strange.

justlikethesun said:

I'm sure it's in case someone trips and falls an needs immediate care. Or some psycho fan grabs Prince, squeezes and hugs him until he smashes our little hero...

And if this B-12 injection thing is true, looks like Prince is fighting something besides his daddy's hairline: age.

http://www.antiagingarts....tloss.html

It's all good. Whatever he needs to do to keep touring and making magic through his music... more power to him.

The last two pages are from a previous concert since they have been up long before the current started. Also note the reference to the 'Artist' as opposed to Prince.

LovesexyIsThe1 said:

He doesn't look at all like he is losing his hairline....?

2elijah said:

You got that right. It's called Rogaine.

It's biologically impossible to have a bald father, and not go bald or have thinning hair yourself.

That's why I said: "Prince is fighting something besides his daddy's hairline."

Vegans reqioure B12 injections

LovesexyIsThe1 said:

I thought baldness came from your mother's side.

andyman91 said:

For some strange reason, everybody does. It's an old wives tale that has passed from generation to generation.

I know from firsthand experience, and extesive research on the subject. Ask any bald man you know, if his father was bald, 9 maybe even 10 times outta 10, you'll get a "yes" answer.

Either way, you inherit both parents genetics. If both parents have weak nerve endings in their scalp, you'll go bald.

andykeen said:

not really...in fact, it's quite understandable if you think about it: you wouldn't want folks touchin your food and havin it out in the open.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

I was thinking the exact same thing. That's actually a pretty wise and safe provision if you ask me.

LovesexyIsThe1 said:

Male Pattern Baldness is hereditary, you get it from your mother! The explaination is genetic and linked to your mother's X-Chromosome. There is also an explaination of how your mother got the gene! There is currently a popular commercial on television talking about a hair loss prevention product that is stronger than heredity. The commercial has a young man who talks about his father, who like most men in his family, was bald by 30. The commercial is both right and wrong, Male Pattern Baldness is hereditary and you get it from your mother!


The explanation is that the genetic reason for Pattern Baldness is linked to your mother's X-Chromosome. Everyone get one-half of their genetic make-up from their mother and their father. The final chromosome pair of the 23 pairs is the sex determining set. While males are XY and females are XX the determination of an individuals sex is made by the father. It is the father who gives either the X chromosome, which matches with the womans X resulting in XX and a female child or the Y chromosome which joins with the womans X resulting in an XY match and a male child. It is the X chromosome or female sex chromosome that contains the gene for Male Pattern Baldness.


Since men have only one X chromosome, the gene for baldness is a single expression gene that shows up because there is no possible dominant gene to suppress what would normally be a recessive or hidden characteristic. Since Male Pattern Baldness gene is only on the X chromosome and men can only get that chromosome from their mothers, it is simple to see how this type of baldness is passed from mother to son.


The fact that it seems that men in families often have many generations of bald men tend to make this explanation of hard to believe, yet genetics explain it. Male Pattern Baldness is a condition that as previously stated is on a gene on the X chromosome. Since this form of baldness is recessive, it will be hidden if only one of the dominant genes is present. Since women have the XX chromosome pair, baldness will not occur unless both chromosomes have the recessive gene that causes baldness. A woman could have one of three genetic conditions:


Both X chromosomes with normal gene represented by Xn Xn this would appear as normal. One normal and one baldness gene on the X chromosome pair represented by Xn Xb, this would appear as normal. Both X chromosomes with the baldness gene represented by Xb Xb, this would appear as a woman with pattern baldness



Given these three female genetic possibilities there are 4 possibilities for male offspring:


1 for the first woman - 1 normal male XnY

2 for the second woman 1 normal/ 1 bald male XnY / XbY

1 for the third woman 1 bald male XbY


Once a male is born with the baldness gene he automatically passes it on to all his female offspring. If his mate is normal with the gene for baldness (Xn Xb) each female child born has a 50-50 chance of being born with male pattern baldness. This is because bald men can only give the Xb gene. This causes bald men to pass the gene and deplete the stock of Xn Xn females. This is how the women are able to keep producing males with pattern baldness. In total population about 30% of all females are Pattern Bald.


Below is a set of charts that illustrate the pattern.


Key Xn = normal Xb = Pattern Bald

XX = female XY = male


Normal Male Normal Female


Xn Xn


Xn Xn Xn Xn Xn

Y XnY XnY

Results All Normal




Normal Male Female recessive


Xn Xb


Xn Xn Xn Xn Xb

Y XnY XbY

Results: 2 normal females (one with trait for baldness) 1 normal male 1 bald male



Bald Male Female recessive


Xn Xb


Xb Xn Xb Xb Xb

Y XnY XbY

Results: 1 normal females(with trait for baldness) 1 bald female 1 normal male - 1 bald male



Bald Male Bald Female


Xb Xb


Xb Xb Xb Xb Xb

Y XbY XbY

Results: All Bald

PAPAROBBIE said:

Loved your punnet squares, but if i remember from my biology and genetics clases baldness is sex-infulenced and not sex linked. Which means it is not found on the 23rd X chromosome. If it was truley sex-linked there would be more bald women. Also that the pattern is more on the paternal side.... My dad's maternal grandfather bald... he's not.... my oldest brothers maternal grandfather is bald he is not. So far I still have mine

As I stated earlier... this is where the "old wives" tale comes in.

Here are some more current facts, discovered by todays scientists:

The causes of male pattern baldness are thought to be complex and are not completely understood. However, as suggested by its medical name (androgenetic alopecia), male pattern baldness seems to involve both hormonal (androgen) and genetic factors. Many different types of hormones play roles in the regulation of scalp hair, but the hormones with the largest effect are the androgens. Testosterone and its more potent derivative dihydrotestosterone (DHT) are responsible for increasing the size of hair follicles in areas such as the beard and underarm during puberty, but can also cause hair follicles in the scalp to decrease in size later in life. These contrasting responses to DHT might be explained by genetic differences in the individual hair follicles. Similarly, in men who are balding, genetically determined characteristics of hair follicles in the scalp may cause the follicles to be more likely to degrade in the presence of androgens. Hair follicles become miniaturized, and the hair consequently becomes thinner and shorter. The growing phase of the growth cycle becomes progressively shorter, which means more hairs are shed. Although the follicles still have an adequate blood supply, they continue to shrink, and some eventually die.

Whatever the exact causes of male pattern baldness may be, it is a hereditary trait. There are multiple genetic factors that influence male pattern baldness. A tendency toward baldness in the men on either the mother's or father's side of a man's family indicates a genetic predisposition to baldness. The speed, pattern, time of onset and degree of balding are all influenced by heredity. Generally, the earlier the onset of balding, the more extensive the degree of hair loss will eventually be.

Contrary to popular myth, balding is not caused by wearing hats. Massaging or brushing the scalp will not help regrow hair, and excessive cleaning of the scalp will not "unclog" follicles and allow hair growth. While extreme psychological stress may contribute to a form of hair loss known as alopecia areata, normal everyday stress does not contribute to balding and is not a cause of androgenetic alopecia.

And the only proven steps to fighting hair loss, are:

Hair Transplants (hair taken from the back of the scalp and moved to the top of the head)
Rogaine (regrows hair on top of the scalp)
Propecia (blocks the damaging DHT hormone)

The final proof? Men on my mother's side have always had a full head of hair. My uncle is 70 years old, and not only has a full head of hair, no sign of thinning.

My father: BALD, his father: BALD, me: going BALD! My brothers... both my brothers have thinned out and have BALD spots.

Therefore if Prince's daddy is bald, he's going to feel the effects 1 of 2 ways. Going completely bald, or thinning.

It is biologically impossible to have a bald father and not see some of the same effects on yourself, be it a high hairline, bald in front not in back, bald in back not in front. One way or another your dad's hairline will affect you. If not in your 20's or 30's, it might be your 50's or 60's, but it will get you.

Edited for spelling.
[Edited 9/9/04 12:53pm]

Prince is part of the Pepsi generation.
No accordian for him and Jimi!

"3 dozen assorted pastries from a real bakery (danish, cinnamon rolls, croissants, muffins)"

So don't try sneaking in any Hostess Snowballs or Little Debbie snack cakes, or those gross apple pies you can buy at gas stations!

B-12 injections are believed (by some) to give people more energy. It was kind of a fad for awhile in the 60s.

Other than treating anemia, there is no actual documented fact b-12 injections do anything for a person but the shots aren't dangerous, either, so...why not

Mmmmmm....chips and salsa.....

SnowQueen said:

I don't know anything about shots, but I take B-complex capsules everyday. They are supposed to help convert food into energy. I wouldn't know if it works, because I've never not taken them.

TheJourney4all7 said:

Yeah I take B-complex, too because I don't always eat the most healthfully and I'd read that B-complex supposedly can help with stress. Like you I don't know how much they really do help but I take them anyhow.