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Thread started 09/06/04 7:47pm

LifeCanBeSoNic
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Who did Prince date first? Nona or Carmen?

I'm really confused about who he dated first. I read a Nona Gaye article and she dated him when she was 18 for 2 years. I don't know when he dated Carmen but Nona said that their relationship ended when she found out that he was engaged to Mayte.

Damn it'd be amazing if I could figure out of his relationship in chronological order, but I don't have that kinda time.
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Reply #1 posted 09/06/04 8:36pm

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He "dated " Carmen while making Symbol.
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Reply #2 posted 09/06/04 8:38pm

Zelaira

He Left Every GOOd Woman for Mayte and Look what Happened! Sin isn't it? Carmen Man was the ONE.. I Love Carmen...
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Reply #3 posted 09/06/04 8:42pm

Zelaira

If Mayte Cheated on PRINCe with That JAQUINE GUY who was Also with Naomi Campbell she's Really Uncool. The Tommy thing after the Hepatitis C is Gross really.
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Reply #4 posted 09/06/04 8:46pm

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OK, Carmen is really good looking.

But with all her makeup she sometimes looks like a drag queen.
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Reply #5 posted 09/06/04 8:52pm

Zelaira

Never... Dave Navarro Knows a GREAT THING...
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Reply #6 posted 09/06/04 10:11pm

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Does it really matter? eek
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Reply #7 posted 09/06/04 10:23pm

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bluelight said:

Does it really matter? eek


lol
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Reply #8 posted 09/06/04 10:47pm

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bluelight said:

Does it really matter? eek


Yes.....yes it does. neutral



.....anyways, just curious.
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Reply #9 posted 09/07/04 12:48am

Novabreaker

Prince actually never had an affair with Carmen Electra. Which is kind of odd, because he spent a lot of money making that record and promoing for it.
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Reply #10 posted 09/07/04 4:10am

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LifeCanBeSoNice said:

bluelight said:

Does it really matter? eek


Yes.....yes it does. neutral



.....anyways, just curious.



OK, he dated ME razz
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Reply #11 posted 09/08/04 3:09pm

TurnItUp

I still don't know what's up with that whole Nona Gaye thing?
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Reply #12 posted 09/08/04 3:21pm

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Carmen of course, she's, what circa 91-93/4? Pre-dates Nona Gaye who was on the scene for a short while, around the time of MBGITW - 94.

Prince named Carmen, as far as I know, she was not 'famous' before Prince.

I have a soft-spot for Carmen's LP, it's crap as hell, but in a good way, it's good humoured.

I bet she could've had a few hit singles if she had released it whilst she was in Baywatch.

Some of the songs are fun pop tracks, Fantasia Erotica, Good Judy Girlfriend, S.T, Go Go Dancer.

Better than Mayte's album, which was a similar affair.

I don't know where it started, but Eye Hate U has often been referred to as being about Carmen, dunno how accurate that is.
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Reply #13 posted 09/08/04 4:17pm

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TurnItUp said:

I still don't know what's up with that whole Nona Gaye thing?


What do you mean?
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Reply #14 posted 09/08/04 4:37pm

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knowing prince he probly dated them both @ once...but then that wouldn't make sense would it? since i hate u is supposed to b about carmen...hmmmmm....prince need 2 write a damn book!
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Reply #15 posted 09/08/04 5:52pm

PurpleCharm

I wonder what Marvin Gaye thought about Prince and how he would have felt if he was alive when Nona was bed buddies with P? hmmm



This pic of Nona and Marvin is just too cute.. biggrin
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Reply #16 posted 09/08/04 5:54pm

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OK, Carmen is really good looking.

But with all her makeup she sometimes looks like a drag queen.

clapping co sign.
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Reply #17 posted 09/08/04 6:23pm

psykosoul

PurpleCharm said:

I wonder what Marvin Gaye thought about Prince and how he would have felt if he was alive when Nona was bed buddies with P? hmmm



This pic of Nona and Marvin is just too cute.. biggrin


From the liner notes of Marvin Gaye's "In Our Lifetime":

Marvin wanted to reestablish his commercial prowess, Rick James- with his highly erotic, fabulously orchestrated funk- had become Motown's biggest star, and Gaye was jealous. Teddy Pendergrass was another star who worried Marvin. "Then there's this new cat," Gaye told me, "that people in the industry are talking about. Prince. Doesn't he know I'm supposed to be the only prince? They say he's sexy and has a high voice that sounds like mine. All these boys are romancing my fans, and I don't like it. I'm getting my fans back. I'm doing a straight-ahead make-out party album.


Personally, I think if Marvin had lived he and Prince would have collaborated... Probably in the mid-90s.
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Reply #18 posted 09/08/04 6:28pm

PurpleCharm

psykosoul said:

PurpleCharm said:

I wonder what Marvin Gaye thought about Prince and how he would have felt if he was alive when Nona was bed buddies with P? hmmm



This pic of Nona and Marvin is just too cute.. biggrin


From the liner notes of Marvin Gaye's "In Our Lifetime":

Marvin wanted to reestablish his commercial prowess, Rick James- with his highly erotic, fabulously orchestrated funk- had become Motown's biggest star, and Gaye was jealous. Teddy Pendergrass was another star who worried Marvin. "Then there's this new cat," Gaye told me, "that people in the industry are talking about. Prince. Doesn't he know I'm supposed to be the only prince? They say he's sexy and has a high voice that sounds like mine. All these boys are romancing my fans, and I don't like it. I'm getting my fans back. I'm doing a straight-ahead make-out party album.


Personally, I think if Marvin had lived he and Prince would have collaborated... Probably in the mid-90s.


Thanks for posting that. thumbs up! That would have been so cool for P and Marvin to have collaborated. P blew up right after Marvin was shot.. sad
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Reply #19 posted 09/08/04 7:08pm

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LifeCanBeSoNice said:

Damn it'd be amazing if I could figure out of his relationship in chronological order, but I don't have that kinda time.


I don't have that kind of time or those kinds of drugs. I tried to get it all straight once and all I got was a big ole headache. smile

Now! Who's going to make the obligatory post that Nona never dated Prince, and those 3 years were just a haze in her drug-filled mind? Somebody? Anybody? wink

PurpleCharm, I love that picture too! But I'm partial to this one:



The way she's looking up at her daddy is just so sweet that it makes a little lump in my throat.

TurnItUp said:

I still don't know what's up with that whole Nona Gaye thing?


I honestly don't think anyone's going to know except for Prince and Nona. And honestly? I think they were both too high to remember it. Apparently, there came a time when Nona thought they were dating and they weren't, because Prince was engaged to Mayte.

What I DO wonder, though, was how much music Nona lost when she and Prince split. I've heard that a lot of her work went down the drain because Prince wouldn't credit her (and she didn't want it anyway). Any light shedding, orgers?
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Reply #20 posted 09/08/04 7:42pm

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Question Was Carmen voice used for the symbol album ? For tracks Love 2 The 9s, The Max and The Three Chains O Gold ? Then when Mayte got introduce and became a member of NPG she just lipsing to the voice.
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Reply #21 posted 09/09/04 12:06am

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kondwanii said:

Question Was Carmen voice used for the symbol album ? For tracks Love 2 The 9s, The Max and The Three Chains O Gold ? Then when Mayte got introduce and became a member of NPG she just lipsing to the voice.

Carmen's voice is on "The Continental", I thought it was Mayte on the tracks you mention.
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Reply #22 posted 09/09/04 6:45am

Novabreaker

Pfft. Carmen once said in an interview that they never got intimate together. Why the hell would she lie about it? She was MARRIED to Dennis Rodman, so I don't think it was because admitting to having had sex with a cross-dressing man would be embarrassing for her.
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Reply #23 posted 09/09/04 7:29am

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well i'm not sure who he had first, i knew he had them at the same time, and on the E! true hollywood story of carmen electra, she said that their relationship ended when he started noticing that Mayte was getting most of P's attention. Nona Gaye she REALIZED it was over when she found out (not thru P) that P was engaged to Mayte. So whether he dated one or the other before or after the other, the point is he dogged both of them out to get with Mayte.
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Reply #24 posted 09/09/04 9:58am

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I think Nona and Prince were in a relationship....but I think Prince simply dogged her for Mayte. I think he was physically more attracted to Mayte and dumped Nona....unforunately.







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Reply #25 posted 09/09/04 12:57pm

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KeithyT said:

kondwanii said:

Question Was Carmen voice used for the symbol album ? For tracks Love 2 The 9s, The Max and The Three Chains O Gold ? Then when Mayte got introduce and became a member of NPG she just lipsing to the voice.

Carmen's voice is on "The Continental", I thought it was Mayte on the tracks you mention.


Carmen name didn't appear in the credits of the symbol album. I wonder why if her voice was used for Continental maybe it wasn't her for the other tracks listed.
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Reply #26 posted 09/09/04 2:47pm

TurnItUp

Rhondab said:

I think Nona and Prince were in a relationship....but I think Prince simply dogged her for Mayte. I think he was physically more attracted to Mayte and dumped Nona....unforunately.









To PurpleCharm: I guess this is what I mean what this orger just said is the answer to my question. I know I'm gonna get bashed for this, but that's ok.
Carmen seemed like one of Prince's typical women. The way things sounded they didn't have an affair, it was a deal. I'll give you a record deal and a career if you give me some p**sy, simple as that.

With Nona as far as a relationship I never thought they were boyfriend and girlfriend. He might have had some physical attraction to her and vica versa but whenever you get through with it why couldn't he be hot and heavy with her in the Love Sign video like he has been with other women in other videos:
(hint--Diamond and Pearl in Gett Off video). Why did they cut away the scene when they were supposed to have made love. Sure you got the message, but you don't see anything and why couldn't have been that Nona had the engagement ring instead of exotic non black Mayte.
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Reply #27 posted 09/09/04 7:57pm

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TurnItUp said:

With Nona as far as a relationship I never thought they were boyfriend and girlfriend. He might have had some physical attraction to her and vica versa but whenever you get through with it why couldn't he be hot and heavy with her in the Love Sign video like he has been with other women in other videos...Why did they cut away the scene when they were supposed to have made love.


You don't think their whopping 6-8 inch height had anything to do with it? That's not a snotty question, mind you - I haven't seen the videos in question so I never saw the blocking. I would just think they would cut away because there's no feasible angle that would make those two look even remotely close to not ONLY the same height, but the same SIZE. Prince is a wispy lil' guy - Nona's on the thick side (for Hollywood). And I think it would've been distracting. Even if they had properly blocked the scene, chances are we all would've been tittering because we'd all know that Prince's feet would probably be wrapped around Nona's knees.

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Other than that - and I hate to say it - but I agree with you. I think back in the day, it was cooler to be seen making out with some biracial/multiracial/nything but black woman than some black teenager from D.C., you know? (Hey, just like today!) Sad, because Nona was beautiful in her day - nothing like she is now (I think her eyes, which have seen sooooo much, gave her a "rode hard and put away wet" look that she's been able to grow out of), but I don't think Nona will EVER be on the level of say...Halle Berry beauty. Why? Not because she doesn't have the looks, but because she doesn't have that so-called exotic look. Nona is, as my friend once said, "good old-fashioned, all-American pure black beauty". And honestly? I don't think Prince would've touched her had she not been Marvin Gaye's daughter.

Then:



Now:

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Reply #28 posted 09/09/04 9:15pm

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NadiaAdare said:

TurnItUp said:

With Nona as far as a relationship I never thought they were boyfriend and girlfriend. He might have had some physical attraction to her and vica versa but whenever you get through with it why couldn't he be hot and heavy with her in the Love Sign video like he has been with other women in other videos...Why did they cut away the scene when they were supposed to have made love.


You don't think their whopping 6-8 inch height had anything to do with it? That's not a snotty question, mind you - I haven't seen the videos in question so I never saw the blocking. I would just think they would cut away because there's no feasible angle that would make those two look even remotely close to not ONLY the same height, but the same SIZE. Prince is a wispy lil' guy - Nona's on the thick side (for Hollywood). And I think it would've been distracting. Even if they had properly blocked the scene, chances are we all would've been tittering because we'd all know that Prince's feet would probably be wrapped around Nona's knees.

[end devil's advocate mode]

Other than that - and I hate to say it - but I agree with you. I think back in the day, it was cooler to be seen making out with some biracial/multiracial/nything but black woman than some black teenager from D.C., you know? (Hey, just like today!) Sad, because Nona was beautiful in her day - nothing like she is now (I think her eyes, which have seen sooooo much, gave her a "rode hard and put away wet" look that she's been able to grow out of), but I don't think Nona will EVER be on the level of say...Halle Berry beauty. Why? Not because she doesn't have the looks, but because she doesn't have that so-called exotic look. Nona is, as my friend once said, "good old-fashioned, all-American pure black beauty". And honestly? I don't think Prince would've touched her had she not been Marvin Gaye's daughter.

Then:



Now:




she's still hot.

I honestly don't think anyone's going to know except for Prince and Nona. And honestly? I think they were both too high to remember it.


falloff: don't need no nona or her cocaine mayte's booty does the same to my brain and i'm high..so high lol

Why did they cut away the scene when they were supposed to have made love. Sure you got the message, but you don't see anything and why couldn't have been that Nona had the engagement ring instead of exotic non black Mayte.


never seen the lovesign vid..but i get what u sayin..and thats probly why..face it prince isn't really attracted to black black women...he'd much rather have someone more like himself..mixed..sad but true...but hey thats his loss..cuz i think nona is just as fine as mayte.
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Reply #29 posted 09/20/04 3:33am

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Moonwalkbjrain said:[quote]

NadiaAdare said:




never seen the lovesign vid..but i get what u sayin..and thats probly why..face it prince isn't really attracted to black black women...he'd much rather have someone more like himself..mixed..sad but true...but hey thats his loss..cuz i think nona is just as fine as mayte.


Prince is mixed? eek lol razz
I couldn't help but ask the dreaded question. I lmbo when I read Prince is mixed or gay. lol
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