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Thread started 08/19/04 8:10pm

sro100

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"Dance With the Devil"

I like this outtake better than many of the pop-flavored songs that made it onto the "Batman" soundtrack; very dark and reminiscent of the film.

Any idea why this never made it onto the CD?
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Reply #1 posted 08/19/04 8:12pm

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sro100 said:

I like this outtake better than many of the pop-flavored songs that made it onto the "Batman" soundtrack; very dark and reminiscent of the film.

Any idea why this never made it onto the CD?


Fairly obvious answer would be it was considered 'too dark'...great outtake
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Reply #2 posted 08/19/04 8:57pm

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mynameisnotsusan said:

sro100 said:

I like this outtake better than many of the pop-flavored songs that made it onto the "Batman" soundtrack; very dark and reminiscent of the film.

Any idea why this never made it onto the CD?


Fairly obvious answer would be it was considered 'too dark'...great outtake


Just discovered this track...love it. So much better than most of the stuff on that album.
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Reply #3 posted 08/20/04 2:02am

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tim burton was pretty picky about the movie's soundtrack as with everything. i believe he prefered the other songs--that meant "dance with the devil" and "rave unto the joy fantastic" didn't make the cut. i love the batman album so no worries. on other hand, i'd love to hear a clean copy of the 1988 "rave.." ("dance with the devil" is a fantastic outtake!).
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Reply #4 posted 08/20/04 3:10am

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Prince's pop-soundtrack is meant to contrast Danny Elfman's original score in the film. There was no need for such a cinematic contribution from Prince himself as Danny was providing that.

Besides the album needed to contain all the hit material they could gather. "Batman" wasn't exactly a small-budget production and it pretty much was a make-it-or-break-it situation for Burton too.
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Reply #5 posted 08/20/04 3:16am

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Novabreaker said:

Prince's pop-soundtrack is meant to contrast Danny Elfman's original score in the film. There was no need for such a cinematic contribution from Prince himself as Danny was providing that.

Besides the album needed to contain all the hit material they could gather. "Batman" wasn't exactly a small-budget production and it pretty much was a make-it-or-break-it situation for Burton too.


I imagine after the relative commercial failure of Lovesexy in the U.S. that WB were up Prince's ass for a hit too.
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Reply #6 posted 08/20/04 3:55am

Novabreaker

Yeah. Batman bought him a LOT of extra time. His sales had honestly speaking been diminishing catastrophically since "Purple Rain". This is something most people don't talk about when they are discussing the greatness of his 80s output.
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Reply #7 posted 08/20/04 5:05am

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Novabreaker said:

Yeah. Batman bought him a LOT of extra time. His sales had honestly speaking been diminishing catastrophically since "Purple Rain". This is something most people don't talk about when they are discussing the greatness of his 80s output.


Yeah, I never thought about that.....I guess that thanx to the sucsess of "Batman" that Warners gave him the budget to make "Graffiti bridge" and even bothered to edit it a million times and distribute it in cinema's!


Thank goodness 4 "Batman" then as I love the whole "Grafitti bridge" era (the nude tour is brilliant to me personally).....
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Reply #8 posted 08/20/04 6:08am

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thesexofit said:



Yeah, I never thought about that.....I guess that thanx to the sucsess of "Batman" that Warners gave him the budget to make "Graffiti bridge" and even bothered to edit it a million times and distribute it in cinema's!


Thank goodness 4 "Batman" then as I love the whole "Grafitti bridge" era (the nude tour is brilliant to me personally).....
[This message was edited Fri Aug 20 5:06:10 2004 by thesexofit]

the "grafitti bridge" era is my least favorite prince era to be honest. that, together with prince's last years as a symbol.

the "grafitti bridge" album is weak. half of the album is alright to excellent. the other half is pure crap. he really fucked up some great vault material in my opinion (keep in my mind: i heard the vault material after i first listened to the album). adding the time/guest material was a bad call in my opinion. the artwork is even more grotesk than ever. the movie, well, i don't even dare to watch it. "purple rain" is alright. and that's mostly due to its soundtrack and the onstage performance scenes (and some of the females in the movie). "under the cherry moon" was so fucking gay--i had trouble seeing it through. as a matter of fact, i didn't even make it to the end. eventhough i love its soundtrack. so, giving "grafitti bridge" a chance is out of the question. strolling through the cd booklet and looking at the pictures from some of the movie's scenes, it makes me laugh. the sets and lighting, especially that of the grafitti bridge itself, seem so cheap--the soundtrack isn't worth much either. prince shouldn't have fucked around with movies at all.. well, at least not after "purple rain". it's not like he's a good actor/director.
the nude tour.. well, i've listened to some of the boots from this tour. it's cool. prince is just a bad mutherfucker onstage. he can't do no wrong. and the addition of some "batman" material (pretty rare if you ask me) is cool too--that period i do dig!

i'm not that fond of prince's early symbol years either, but i view those years as some kind of seance. a period where he was trying to find himself. he did make some excellent music in those years too. he looked more like a bitch than ever, but the music rocked (sporadic).

it's hard to choose one era as his best. so i won't. all i know is, i became aware of prince through the batman movie. so i love that period! almost all he did prior to that is hot shit in my opinion. everything after that is not so good to alright to sometimes old-fashionedly-excellent.

i'm out.
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Reply #9 posted 08/20/04 9:58am

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Great little album to have in your collection. Nice outtake. Rather throw out a song on "batman" for this joint. Or a hidden track. But then again it would make the album look too dark. smile
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