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Reply #30 posted 08/11/04 5:51am

newpowerboy

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Get over it he is a genius: and he is very rich and very talented anyone who said he cant play guitar is a jealous mother fuck ok xxxxx


Who said he can't play guitar on this thread?? I think It's been said just the opposite but anyway, all I wanted to say is that I saw a performance that I thought it was live and maybe it wasn't, just that.

I think you read the thread you want to read
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Reply #31 posted 08/11/04 6:19am

richierich

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He can play guitar so whats really the point of looking at all his performances of where he might of faked or had back up,next people will be looking at when he faked a smile on stage.
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Reply #32 posted 08/11/04 6:43am

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I'd say that just about wraps it up. prince guitar Seems there was a little bit of technical stuff going on in the production of this T.V. performance.Hope those that saw it enjoyed. biggrin
I know on the David Letterman show, which is 'bout the only U.S., "live" show we get in Australia, that as far as i can tell, and i can tell; as it's so obvious, most if not all performances are live.I saw Prince Play 'Dolphin' on letterman couple of years back and it was definately a live solo, if not all the song. 'twas wonderful.Infact i saw Aussie band" JET ", on letterman last night.There was no way it was anything but live as the audience, Letterman & paul shaffer, all looked like they were off to the medicine cabinet 4 a aspirin hit.They were loud, dirty and Fantastic.As JET come from the same suburb in Melbourne as me i was proud to see them kickass as they did.
As a guitarist you can "grab" the fretboard with a bar chord and make it sound true.
I like the suggestion by kev1n:
performances in a tv-studio are very rarely recorded live. Because of the fact that in most cases they are not equiped to capture the sound decently (except when it's a music show, and even then) most artists actually prefer to play-back or lip-synch on shows like that.
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Reply #33 posted 08/11/04 6:49am

hectim

I think The Chronic is actually playing the parts backstage, but Chronic waxes P's ass so bad, P can't even mime that shit right! smile (damn never thought I'd miss that guy one day but threads like these make me)
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Reply #34 posted 08/11/04 7:12am

lovemachine

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DorothyParkerWasCool said:

Neversin said:


Ah... The fucking retards come out...
Nobody on this fucking topic said Prince isn't a professional musician, everybody knows he is...
It's just a fact that about 95% of people who perform on TV shows use backing tapes or pre-recorded "live" music, Prince included... It's not a slam or anything, it's just the way it works with TV...
You're making it seem as if someone on here said that Prince fakes all the guitar playing he ever did...
And BTW receiving "widespread acclaim form legendary musicians" doesn't mean shit... It's just an ego boost...

Neversin.


Hmmm, Okay, I will just take your word for it the Omnipotent Neversin: King or Queen of the Message Board. Actually, receiveing widespread acclaim from professional musicians is much better than getting acclaim from or torn down by bitter people who sit on a fan site and jump on every little detail with the hopes of finding something to make their intolerable lives better. (You know the back hand compliment crew who wouldn't know what to do with Prince's talent if he gave it to them.) That Alicia Keys intro at the concert is working a hell of a lot better than the Neversin tape they started with. Oh by the way, referring to me as part of the "fucking retards" is actually quite comical. After reading some of the posts you've so eloquently provided for us, that retard statement is a compliment.lol If your thought process is the standard for logical thinking, I will take retard anyday.thumbs up!
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But the real point of this thread is how does that acclaim prove he wasn't miming the Leno performance?

You were NOWHERE near the point with your original post. Nobody ever said he was faking the accoustic set or whatever yous said at the show you went to it was brought up that he was faking during the Leno show.

You might want to consider reading a thread before posting in the future.
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Reply #35 posted 08/11/04 7:44am

7IS4ME

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people,people,people why are you getting so upset about prince faking his guitar playing? whether he's faking or really playing it, really doesn't matter because it's his guitar playing music that we hear not someone else's.so if it's prerecorded so be it.
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Reply #36 posted 08/11/04 8:19am

richierich

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hectim said:

I think The Chronic is actually playing the parts backstage, but Chronic waxes P's ass so bad, P can't even mime that shit right! smile (damn never thought I'd miss that guy one day but threads like these make me)



You miss the Chronic eek , I actually think he can be found on this thread http://www.prince.org/msg/100/105413
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Reply #37 posted 08/11/04 9:01am

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elvis played better than prince flip u right?
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Reply #38 posted 08/11/04 9:09am

CherrieMoonKis
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This subject is definetely going to have 2 or 3 more threads on it I can see. sigh

Prince isnt faking his guitar playing...thats nonsense. bored
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Reply #39 posted 08/11/04 10:06am

AndyParkin

OK, I remember watching the Prince and the Revolution Live video from the Purple Rain tour at Syracuse and I seem to remember noticing his guitar wasn't even plugged in.

At first I put it down to the radio mic, but then you still need a jack lead going into the guitar which connects to the radio pack.

I haven't seen it for a long time so I might have to dig it out to check but can anyone confirm this?
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Reply #40 posted 08/11/04 10:19am

lovemachine

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CherrieMoonKisses said:

This subject is definetely going to have 2 or 3 more threads on it I can see. sigh

Prince isnt faking his guitar playing...thats nonsense. bored


Have you watched the show in question or are you just assuming that we are saying he always fakes it?
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Reply #41 posted 08/11/04 10:23am

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ELBOOGY said:

Every1 from G. Clinton 2 Bootsy 2 Suga Foot and Ernie Isley has raved about P's genius in playing guitar. Even Santana! Sooo this is a really stupid thread that should b banished from the archives 4ever! STUPID ASS SHIT!

- Typical asskisser comment. Nobody here dissed Prince as a guitar player. You probably didnt even read the thread, only the title.
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Reply #42 posted 08/11/04 10:43am

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AndyParkin said:

OK, I remember watching the Prince and the Revolution Live video from the Purple Rain tour at Syracuse and I seem to remember noticing his guitar wasn't even plugged in.

At first I put it down to the radio mic, but then you still need a jack lead going into the guitar which connects to the radio pack.

I haven't seen it for a long time so I might have to dig it out to check but can anyone confirm this?



-----so what youre suggesting here is that prince was possibly faking the guitar parts for a song lasting 18mins.24secs, eek , THIS THREAD HAS GONE TO FAR! STOPPPPP PLZ. ITS ALL BULLSHIT.
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Reply #43 posted 08/11/04 10:53am

Lovsexy4

You guys are fucking morons...Let this go and move on already!
YES, HE DOES ON OCCASION LIP-SYNC AND USE PRE_RECORDED TRACKS DURING LIVE AND TAPE PERFORMANCES. A LOT OF MUSICIANS DO IT.
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Reply #44 posted 08/11/04 11:12am

andyman91

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Let us not forget that Prince does have another guitarist in the band. Wasn't he on Leno? I forget. He was definitely helping during the acoustic part of the concert I saw. So not every guitar sound will be made by Prince's pick striking the strings.
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Reply #45 posted 08/11/04 11:15am

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And on Live at the Aladdin, at the end of 1+1+1=3 his guitar is slightly out of tune. He ends the song right after this is apparent. I don't think he would pre-record out of tune in order to sound authentic.
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Reply #46 posted 08/11/04 11:28am

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I don't think it really matters, whether he uses samples/pre-recorded parts on TV performances. TV's a unique kind of medium for music performances anyway, so as long as he gives us viewers an interesting version of the song, which has perhaps been "recorded live" at Paisley, and a good visual performance to go with it, I'm quite happy...

I mean, jeez, if we're going to go through all the stuff on TV that's not "real", we'll be here a long time....
razz
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Reply #47 posted 08/11/04 12:34pm

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Hey folks....let´s just relax a bit
It was ONLY an observation about the Leno performance.
This thread never had the intention of dissing Prince´s skills as a musician. It was only a note about something that happened on Leno. I had the same feeling about SOTT movie.
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Reply #48 posted 08/11/04 2:23pm

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AndyParkin said:

OK, I remember watching the Prince and the Revolution Live video from the Purple Rain tour at Syracuse and I seem to remember noticing his guitar wasn't even plugged in.

At first I put it down to the radio mic, but then you still need a jack lead going into the guitar which connects to the radio pack.

I haven't seen it for a long time so I might have to dig it out to check but can anyone confirm this?



I just watched that tape the other day, and his guitar is definitely plugged in. It's amazing to watch that video and then the Livesexy video and see how much his playing improved over 3 years.
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Reply #49 posted 08/11/04 2:39pm

kaine

To end all this nonsense, yes of course he has pre-recorded some of these performances. Alot, of the time it is when he is breaking in a new band. But, to end all the talk about his greatness, who the fizzy was shredding the guitar during the Rock 'n' Roll hall of Fame? Who basically sent the message to all the non-believers after While my guitar gently weeps that they should burn their guitars forever forget about even strumming again? Let me help u, it was Prince!!!!! He is the greatest ever. And I'll even quote him, His only comp, is him in th past..and after seeing him here in NYC, he is better than he was back then, at least live..the studio Prince will never equal the one from the 80's. -kk
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Reply #50 posted 08/11/04 3:00pm

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The only thing Prince fakes is that "he will play his hits for the last time..."

wink

Don't worry, Prince is one the last remaining artists who plays live ...
Don't believe the hype!



Absolutely true
Few remember that he has promised never to play his hits again only to go on tour and then play them. Happened after Purple Rain and during his Slave days
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Reply #51 posted 08/11/04 3:20pm

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I watched the tape of the leno show, and the sound of his guitar was actually not live, because the guitar is still playing even tho he isn't playin it, he gave the guitar 2 sum 1 in the crowd, so i think newpowerboy was rite, but that doesn't mean he cant play guitar, maybe it was 4 sound perposes

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Reply #52 posted 08/11/04 4:40pm

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DorothyParkerWasCool said:

Neversin said:


Ah... The fucking retards come out...
Nobody on this fucking topic said Prince isn't a professional musician, everybody knows he is...
It's just a fact that about 95% of people who perform on TV shows use backing tapes or pre-recorded "live" music, Prince included... It's not a slam or anything, it's just the way it works with TV...
You're making it seem as if someone on here said that Prince fakes all the guitar playing he ever did...
And BTW receiving "widespread acclaim form legendary musicians" doesn't mean shit... It's just an ego boost...

Neversin.


Hmmm, Okay, I will just take your word for it the Omnipotent Neversin: King or Queen of the Message Board. Actually, receiveing widespread acclaim from professional musicians is much better than getting acclaim from or torn down by bitter people who sit on a fan site and jump on every little detail with the hopes of finding something to make their intolerable lives better. (You know the back hand compliment crew who wouldn't know what to do with Prince's talent if he gave it to them.) That Alicia Keys intro at the concert is working a hell of a lot better than the Neversin tape they started with. Oh by the way, referring to me as part of the "fucking retards" is actually quite comical. After reading some of the posts you've so eloquently provided for us, that retard statement is a compliment.lol If your thought process is the standard for logical thinking, I will take retard anyday.thumbs up!
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Love your reply! But the fact that there are people that sit and watch his every and I do mean EVERY single move that closely to know whether or not he's playing live on a tv show, says waaaay more about his talent then you or I ever could!
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Reply #53 posted 08/11/04 8:22pm

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GustavoRibas said:

ELBOOGY said:

Every1 from G. Clinton 2 Bootsy 2 Suga Foot and Ernie Isley has raved about P's genius in playing guitar. Even Santana! Sooo this is a really stupid thread that should b banished from the archives 4ever! STUPID ASS SHIT!

- Typical asskisser comment. Nobody here dissed Prince as a guitar player. You probably didnt even read the thread, only the title.
No i'm not an ass kisser and i did read the thread. I watched the damn tape and since i'm a musician myself i say that the band is playing live and there is no evidence in the footage when i slowmo& zoom in on P and replay that he missed a note or that there's a backing tape playing! I don't see or hear the Phantom notes!
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Reply #54 posted 08/11/04 8:44pm

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confused So, Prince may have mimed a live performance or two. He plays live at all his concerts which is more than I can say for half the morons....erm, I mean "artists" that are out right now, who are half his age. He can fake play his guitar until he's blue in the face, but we all know that he actually played the guitar on that track that he's supposedly fake stringing over. He can lip-sync his lyrics if he feels the urge, because at least he wrote them without the help of three other songwriters and 5 other producers. I'm still trying to figure out why this is such a big deal all of a sudden. This is the second thread this week with this subject matter. Throughout his almost 30 year-spanning career, he's performed the large majority of his live performances without the help of pre-recordings. Maybe he couldn't play that night because he sprained his wrist or finger in rehearsal. shrug Does that mean that he now has no credibility as a great guitar player? Well, after that RRHOF performance, I personally could careless if he pulled a banana out of his ear and turned it into a white bunny. After the RRHOF performance, he can go on every talk show and fake play his guitar for the rest of the year and still be 10 times better than all the other "artist" that are out now. His split ends have more talent than the garbage that's on the radio now.
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Reply #55 posted 08/11/04 8:54pm

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