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Reply #120 posted 08/09/04 4:30pm

mzflash

dttmfp said:

This article is pretty much true. It wasn't an afterparty. More like a potential party for the band (that didn't happen). The fish was Halibut and was good. I was there.


Sometimes a body requires more protein than what is present and available in vegetables. Prince has been on such an intense schedule that I doubt he has had many good home cooked meals. It takes alot of time and thought to cook good balanced vegetarian meals. I stopped eating red meat about 30 years ago, but i occasionally will eat fish. My life can get hectic and sometimes you just need the protien. Fish is unlike the meat of warm blooded animals who can bat their eyelashes at you (including pork...which i think is the worst meat.) Jesus multiplied the fish and fed the multitudes. So in moderation I don't think eating fish is really detrimental for U except for the mercury content. If we eat within our envirnment, mostly organic foods and other foods in moderation we can be in tune with our universe.

I was sort of brooding on Friday too. I woke up and realized that Prince had been in Minney at Bunkers just a few hours away while I slept. Ironically I woke to a wonderful dream of being with him, butterfly so I really must stay up later in order to catch this thing live. headbang woot! music
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Reply #121 posted 08/09/04 4:30pm

superspaceboy

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kellyann22 said:

superspaceboy said:



So you quoted me...agreed and COMPLETELY MISSED MY POINT.


Why would you accuse me of missing your point, and not follow up by clarifying? I wasn't trying to be argumentative. In fact there is only one person in this thread that I've been argumentative with, and it's because that person completely twisted my words.

So what exactly WAS your point? I thought your point was that preaching to people about veganism and then going back on that to eat some fish is no big deal. If that's not what you were saying, then I misunderstood you. It's the internet. Misunderstandings happen all the time. I think I've been very respectful though, so I don't know why you wouldn't want to set me straight.

Look; I think this whole thread got out of hand. I was wrong (as were a few others) for automatically jumping to the conclusion that Prince was actually eating fish and renouncing his vegetarianism. I also believe that there has been a severe lack of understanding from others on this thread as to why it would matter to a vegan if another vegan does decide to stray from his or her commitment to the lifestyle.

All in all, however, I think this whole entire thread is nothing but people misunderstanding each other. Yes; I do care about why someone may have given up veganism/vegetarianism. Yes; it's important to me that people take it seriously rather than treat it as a phase. Yes; there is the possibility that this entire story about him eating fish is in error. No; we shouldn't obsess about what Prince does in his personal life.

Really, I think my only beef about this entire thread is that I feel like people are trying to say that I'm silly for being upset at the idea of someone committing themselves to a vegan lifestyle, only to later reject it. I never said I was judging the man. There are plenty of reasons why I feel the way I do towards veganism, and honestly, I think the only way anyone could possibly understand it is if he or she is also a vegan. I don't like being made to feel like I have no reason to feel the way I do about certain things, and that's just the feeling that I got from people on this thread.


Point was that this thread, as evidenced by the zillion responses, is all about veganism. And I pointed out anouther part of the story..You know about Prince Partying alone...I was trying to move Aaway from the vegan thing as it was beaten like a dead horse...but you said "I agree with you about this thread" and went right back to the vegan topic.

Sorry, I would have replied to clear things up...but I was um busy.
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Reply #122 posted 08/09/04 4:31pm

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OKAY OKAY OKAY -

The original thread was that Prince broods alone at after-party - Let me address that first. Prince is a man - a person like everyone else. Not everyday he's gonna Party like it's 1999 or whatever. Sometimes one just needs to chill. We have all been there in some way or another. You make plans to go clubbing weeks ago wit your crew and the nite of...you really don't feel like. But rather than canceling you go ahead - thinking- you mite get into the groove...but end up in the grove. So you just "chill".

As for the side track of this thread - everyone here that has been a FAN of Prince all these years should know by now that Prince is Obsessive Compulsive. When something hits him or clicks a certain way. He goes with it to the point that everyone must be on the same band wagon. much like what Org member name said. And everyone here knows this. I mean everyone.His celebration festivals perfect example - People were coming there. Showcasing new Artists, bringing in revenue for MN. And as it became stronger each year what happens, he stops, loses interest. Look at his website - For awhile there it was changing every other month. Again we all should know this period.

As for the to Vegan or not to Vegan well - It is one's progative to change their mind - it is a free society. I have drank Dr. Pepper for years. One day one of my friends came over and I was drinking 7-up. There were shocked - like I just told them I worship Satan or something. My reply, "Hey sometimes you just wanna change."

Whendovescry2000 has spoken the Truth


People call me rude....
I wish we all were nude....
I wish there were no black or wite
I wish there were no rules....
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Reply #123 posted 08/09/04 4:32pm

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This thread is fucking goofy. The man had a piece of fish & you guys are getting all emotional about it? Damn, would you kill yourself if you heard he ate a steak @ lunch today?? PLEEZE - you do YOUR thing, let him put what he wants on his plate. Yea he says one thing & does another, what else is new. 6 people were just murdered in their sleep, stabbed to death & beaten beyond recognition w/ baseball bats - there's more important shit in the world than Princey's fucking diet mad
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #124 posted 08/09/04 4:37pm

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PurpleCharm said:

kellyann22 said:



Yes; it's very disappointing. It's certainly not something that should ever be looked at as a "phase".


It's not that serious. confused



You guys act like it's the end of the world, I could care less about what Prince eats.
U want me to swivel in your love seat, don't
u baby.
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Reply #125 posted 08/09/04 4:53pm

SnowQueen

Geez, really.

So Prince said/says one thing and then one day does the total opposite. So what else is new?

Prince wasn't always vegan/vegetarian, and one day he decides to be so. Then one day, he isn't as strict anymore about it.

WOW, HOW TOTALLY UNLIKE HIM TO DO SUDDENLY CHANGE LIKE THAT! rolleyes

Do people *really* take his word as the eternal, end-all on a subject anymore - even things he appears to be passionate about? He's always been a contradictory, hypocritical, ever changing personality. Just because he proclaims one thing one day doesn't mean he will *always* feel that way, or be that way, or subscribe to that idea/belief/whatever. I don't mean that as a slam, it's just how he has proven to be.

And if he *does* indeed stick by something forever, well good for him and that's great. But only time will be the accurate litmus test of his dedication to a given belief or stance...not what he says or how loudly or passionately he proclaims his conviction.

If and when he suddenly changes his stance or belief on something - I don't get why people even get shocked or are surprised? To me that's a silly reaction because he's never been known to be a person that doggedly stays with one thing for too long.

I guess it's because he'd been advocating one of their own personal beliefs and when he does that, they kinda forget how mercurial he is.

I believe Prince is very passionate and sincere at the time he's proclaiming whichever belief he is following at any given time, but as time passes, his interest in it invariably wanes somewhat. maybe he doesn't totally lose interest completely but the passion for it lessens. That's just how he is.

Just my thoughts.
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Reply #126 posted 08/09/04 5:00pm

Monnie

Fish!! fish fish clapping
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Reply #127 posted 08/09/04 5:03pm

Zelaira

Exactly, he is Entitled ..Ya Ever have a Craving for something? Why does He Or Anyone gotta Be So Rigid? Can't He or Anybody Change their Minds? He Simply Wanted a Change or well is Getting into Sushi or Microbiotic or something..Why Does Prince Have to Be a Saint or Live Up to OUR Fantasies or WANTS? Cannot the man be Free and a Free-Spirit to Do as he Wishes.. He felt like being quiet,Maybe Tired wanted a Quiet Dinner and wanted Fish ..Geez...It ain't all that Complicated. Listen,Zelaira says Prince just Live how ya Wanna Freak if Ya Care what They think. Be Happy People Live ya Own Lives as Ya Wanna Don't Tell Prince What he SHOULD BE DOING OR FEELING..Ya EITHER WITH IT OR NOT.. Personally, I'm like Whatever he Wants is Alright by me..It's STILL PRINCE....
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Reply #128 posted 08/09/04 5:10pm

mzflash

Zelaira said:

Exactly, he is Entitled ..Ya Ever have a Craving for something? Why does He Or Anyone gotta Be So Rigid? Can't He or Anybody Change their Minds? He Simply Wanted a Change or well is Getting into Sushi or Microbiotic or something..Why Does Prince Have to Be a Saint or Live Up to OUR Fantasies or WANTS? Cannot the man be Free and a Free-Spirit to Do as he Wishes.. He felt like being quiet,Maybe Tired wanted a Quiet Dinner and wanted Fish ..Geez...It ain't all that Complicated. Listen,Zelaira says Prince just Live how ya Wanna Freak if Ya Care what They think. Be Happy People Live ya Own Lives as Ya Wanna Don't Tell Prince What he SHOULD BE DOING OR FEELING..Ya EITHER WITH IT OR NOT.. Personally, I'm like Whatever he Wants is Alright by me..It's STILL PRINCE....



I love ya Zel, but that's MACROBIOTIC not microbiotic. It stands for the LARGE LIFE, a life that encompasses everything!! We should try to eat whatever our environment produces in the season that it produces it and we will be in tune with our universe. Personally, it appears that Prince is able to transmute whatever he eats since he's ALMOST always IN TUNE. yes
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Reply #129 posted 08/09/04 5:12pm

SnowQueen

Zelaira said:

Listen,Zelaira says Prince just Live how ya Wanna Freak if Ya Care what They think. Be Happy People Live ya Own Lives as Ya Wanna Don't Tell Prince What he SHOULD BE DOING OR FEELING..Ya EITHER WITH IT OR NOT.. Personally, I'm like Whatever he Wants is Alright by me


Not to take this already whacked out thread in another direction, but I just have to ask - aren't you the same Zelaira that is constantly posting all over the place that Prince needs to quit being so conservative, and needs to get freaky and nasty again, and should lighten up and this and that and etc etc etc? wink

Seems to me you're often pointing out what Prince "needs to do" or "should do".
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Reply #130 posted 08/09/04 5:20pm

Zelaira

Yes,True..But I say This Because I feel Prince should Incorporate MORE ADVENTURE or FUN in his Life is All. I Totally DON"T Expect him to be like On all the Time or some SEX Machine all the Time but well To Me he Is a Sex God ya Know..He Don't Gotta do anything But Play Guitar. Yes,I want him to sleep and be Quiet he don't have to Be a Freak like Zel who Parties all the Damn Time.. Prince Can Be Prince and if we Love him which I Think we Do well then that's all Cool. Prince will Always be what we Desire want cause first and Foremost it's his Message ..His Music that enthralls us sends us into Passion. He will Always be my Desire my darling I just love him..I get so excited cause it is He who excites his Looks and his Guitar playing so whomever he was Famous or Not I would be so turned -On..Ya Get? My Drift on this? Still I fantasize about him getting me alone someplace in a dark Corner ya know and well Pinning my arms and Blindfolding me as he takes me.. So well I will always Feel HOt For Him..This will never Change No Matter whatever his Proclivities or Feels. Dig???
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Reply #131 posted 08/09/04 5:24pm

Zelaira

I have Never been Into Prince Because of his Celebrty. It has Always been Purely a Physical attraction so well If he was Poor and still played Guitar but was Prince and was as Hot as Ever I'd Want Him..It's about The Music and His Gorgeously Hot Looks...I Could be Happy on the Beach living in a Hut with Such a Man..
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Reply #132 posted 08/09/04 5:29pm

Zelaira

I Personally Think he may Always have Woman who Desire his Gold or Celebrity and Not Really who he is but will do what he Wants for $$$. I am Not One to Be what One Wants .. I am me and well it's like sure ya can Better onesself but well Truly Ya gotta be into the Person and forget all else. The Material is Not relative. It's about Spiritual Bonding of One's minds. I think once ya have Friendship and Trust and Comfortablenes ya have the Foundation..
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Reply #133 posted 08/09/04 5:41pm

steelyd

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Prince said it best a few interviews ago: "I'm a walking contradiction."



AMEN!!!!!
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Reply #134 posted 08/09/04 5:43pm

sumtymes

CherrieMoonKisses said:

Whats wrong with him just wanting to chill?






a brother can't have some

down time?

is he supposed 2 entertain

folks 24/7?

i think not
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Reply #135 posted 08/09/04 5:54pm

Zelaira

Exactly... People gotta Understand he's a Living Human Being who gets tired and well he was looking to Relax. He could first wanna Party or Even Perform then maybe not Feel Up to it or Changing his mind but Doesn't want to Disappoint..Such as an aftershow which one EXPECTS 2 Hrs of Prince... That is Too Much to Ask after him Already Playing 2 plus hrs. See, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND Him... I May get Upset at Some of his Actions but I Understand... Nobody can Change his Mind and well nobody Should Change him..He'll Always be UNIQUE and Well Ya Gotta Be With The Vibe or Not..Like I said ya Leave and it's Your Loss.. Ya Really gotta Handle his Changes...Be with Him All The Way... Always There and Encouraging... Well, that's Just how I Am.. I Just Love him Whatever...I say .....What's His Name? What's His Name??? Prince!!! Ya Hear! Prince!!! Ya Got it?? Good... biggrin
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Reply #136 posted 08/09/04 6:02pm

ElectricPurple

maybe a Brother was just "in the company" of a Brother
who was reported DEAD the next morning.

and maybe the fish was as close as he could get to his grandma's fried chicken
being a strick Vegan
to comfort him for the loss of a Brother
who was long time gone


Blue Jesus
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Reply #137 posted 08/09/04 6:15pm

steelyd

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, PRINCE BECAME A VEGAN JUST AS QUICKLY AS A DROPPED HIS "VEGANISM". HE JUST STOPPED EATING MEAT. THE DUDE IS AN EXTREMIST. THE REASON HE IS THE WAY HE IS?....WHO THE HELL KNOWS. I DON'T HANG ON HIS EVERY WORD, BECAUSE HE CHANGES HIS MIND AS MUCH AS HE CHANGES HIS HAIR AND HIS OUTFITS. I DO GET ANNOYED A BIT WHEN HE PREACHES WHATEVER HE IS INTO AT THE MOMENT, BUT HE HAS BEEN DOING THAT FROM DAY ONE. HE WAS PREACHING RELIGION...THEN HE SAID HIMSELF "HE DIDN'T START SERIOUSLY READING THE BIBLE UNTIL HE BECAME A JEHOVAH WITNESS. NO DISRESPECT TO THE VEGANS ON THIS THREAD, BUT PRINCE IS PRINCE WARTS AND ALL....DEAL WTIH IT. NO HUMAN BEING....EVEN PRINCE IS PERFECT. HE'S COME A LONG WAY....BUT HE IS STILL A SPOILDED WILLFUL CELEBRITY. ISN'T HE ON SOME RELIGIOUS DIET NOW?

I WANNA KNOW WHERE IS WIFEY? HISSSS...MEOW!
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Reply #138 posted 08/09/04 6:20pm

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From a purely observational standpoint, I've been thinking for sometime now that Prince is looking TOO thin. I'm just glad he's eating something. If he's eating fish because of health issues, that could be a reason for the so-called brooding. If the man is feeling a little worn out and reflective, he's probably tired. This has been SOME strenuous tour and it may be taking a bit of a toll on him. I know he has alot to be excited and up about, but it's only natural that he may be tiring somewhat. He's very human but I'm sure he's gathering his second wind and will be all right. I hope he takes as much alone time as he needs and can trust in the fact that his fans will support him and understand his needs, too.
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Reply #139 posted 08/09/04 6:21pm

Zelaira

Madonna Used to be a Vegetarian she said...VEGETARIANS are Paler this year she SAID I'm NOT a VEGETARIAN..People Change for Many reasons... And I don't think it's about what ya said being a SPOILED ROCK Star. He Wanted Fish..As Simple as that.. Damn he needs some Substanence for all that Performing...
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Reply #140 posted 08/09/04 6:35pm

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dayum, this thread's gone down faster than cop rock. guess this means one thing...

































this thread is now off the air. wave
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