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Reply #30 posted 08/06/04 1:08am

ChristianTyler

Ok I haven't actually heard the song so I can't comment on that. What I will say in P's defence is that he has always simplified political and moral issues - and rightly so! Race for example - "cut me cut you, both the blood is red" and as he quite rightly finishes "we are all bones when we are dead" so what does it matter!

Politicians complicate issues why? every problem has a very simple core as P highlights in Race. Politicians have to complicate things, have to blur issues have to maintain a certain level of "chaos" otherwise why have politicians? oh and of course people do make a lot of money out of moral and political "problems"

If you doubt P's ability to write hard hitting lyrics which comment on political and moral issues, what about Sign O' the times a damning critique on late 80's western morals which is as relevant today as it was back in '87.
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Reply #31 posted 08/06/04 2:05am

DOROTHYPARK

Wow, slow down buddy! calm it. It's just a B-side; some of Prince's are good, and others are less... and if you don't like it. fine. Just relax. it's all pretty normal.
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Reply #32 posted 08/06/04 2:31am

Krid

"The United States of Division" + "Magnificient" + "Silver Tongue"

vs:

"Erotic City" + "Scarlet Pussy" + "How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore"


I know what bundle I prefer...
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Reply #33 posted 08/06/04 4:53am

apple2

Is it that bad i like everything he does all his songs cant b perfect though must b hard 4 him to make all his songs the way we like them kitty how do i get a picture bside my name?
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Reply #34 posted 08/06/04 7:54am

sloopydrew4u

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Whatever. This "bleeding heart" loves both the music and lyrics on the song (although I woulda liked P to add a rockin' guitar solo). Sure, the words are about as deep as my bathtub, but listen to the mainstream protest songs of the 60s and tell me they're any deeper. "War! Huh! Good gawd, y'all -- what is it good for? Absolutely nothing!" "Make love, not war." "Tune in, turn on, drop out." (Okay, so the last one was never actually a SONG.)

Prince wrote a nice protest tune that addressed some very real issues. Complexity usually turns people off and that ugly "Liberal Elite" word starts being used. The reason Michael Moore is so popular is because he keeps things simple and easy to understand. Remember, the average IQ in America is only 100.

Prince wrote a nice little tune and sang some meaningful lyrics. It's better than another watered-down Jehovah-approved sex song.

Luv & Peace,
Alex
Clubbin' in Mpls/A Night w. Prince
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Reply #35 posted 08/06/04 7:58am

sloopydrew4u

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JediMaster said:

Man, I'm glad you posted those lyrics. I never could understand what the heck they were saying in that line.


I had the same problem. I've watched every episode of that show at least twice over and STILL couldn't pick up that single line. Some of the variations I came up with are pretty hilarious, in retrospect. lol

Luv & Peace,
Alex
Clubbin' in Mpls/A Night w. Prince
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Reply #36 posted 08/06/04 8:49am

POOK

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Anxiety said:



Boy the way Glen Miller played
Songs that made the hit parade.
Guys like us we had it made,
Those were the days.

And you knew who you were then,
Girls were girls and men were men,
Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.

Didn’t need no welfare state.
Everybody pulled his weight.
Gee our old LaSalle ran great.
Those were the days.


now that....THAT'S a song!!!


BEEN A WHILE SINCE YOU PULLED THAT GUY OUT HUH

P o o |/,
P o o |\
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Reply #37 posted 08/07/04 2:40am

Persian

spot on review
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"The Earth is but one country and mankind it's citizens"
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Reply #38 posted 08/07/04 3:13am

ian

Yup, pretty cringeworthy. So was Cinnamon Girl.
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Reply #39 posted 08/08/04 12:03pm

musicology74

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Supernova said:

newpower25 said:

I'm not too impressed with the lyrics either. I do like the groove tho'. I only wish entertainer's would stay out of controversial politics.. because they R sure to anger/alienate someone. Ask Linda Rondstadt. Especially when it comes to criticizing policy. Besides, honestly, a bunch of these people don't really know the hardships of military service, or war.

Too simplistically generalized to have any truth to it. Of course someone like Marvin Gaye couldn't have possibly been related to anyone who was sent to Vietnam.

Nor have they ever had a blister! Prince has em' from guitar playing, of course. I love Prince to death... but don't preach to ex-military about not protecting ourselves. We'd all do it over again... and again.. and again. But feel free to make a stand on less controversial stuff, that noone can argue with.. racism. hunger. child abuse. homeless. ignorance. Hate. etc.

Ohhh, those things in Prince's repertoire can and HAVE been argued about on this site. They're hardly less controversial around here.

i have 2 tell u supernova, that Marvin Gaye's brother actually is a veteran of the vietnam war. i reckon that would make him some1 that Marvin knew in that war. just a little info 4 ya.[quote]live 4 love without love u don't live
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Reply #40 posted 08/09/04 12:31pm

Paisley4u

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after reading all these bad critics I thought US of division
would be terrible but hey...I LOVE IT!!Should have been on
the album,much better than The marrying kind or If I was the man...
Ok,the lyrics aren´t that great but don´t put him down 4 this one song,
remember SOTT wich got great revues for it´s brilliant lyrics about
everyday live and politics!
Love4oneanother
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Reply #41 posted 08/09/04 12:59pm

pennylover

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DOROTHYPARK said:

Wow, slow down buddy! calm it. It's just a B-side; some of Prince's are good, and others are less... and if you don't like it. fine. Just relax. it's all pretty normal.
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Your comment is 2 funny, I can’t stop laughing. I totally love it lol lol lol lol lol
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Reply #42 posted 08/10/04 1:42am

Heiress

JediMaster said:

Man, I'm glad you posted those lyrics. I never could understand what the heck they were saying in that line.


you've stolen the thought from my brain. lol
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