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Thread started 07/21/04 7:41am

Anji

SENSITIVE SUBJECT - Is Prince's life at risk of assasination?

A friend recently made an interesting point, it's a sensitive subject, so bear with me.

He remarked that he felt many fans nowadays resent Prince for holding the beliefs he does because they do not coincide with theirs, to the extent that, as a community, we are in realistic danger of an attempt on Prince's life (similar to John Lennon's passing). Personally speaking, I find that there's a signicant element of those who have followed Prince who simply just do not like who he is (or has become) as a person, irrespective of his particular beliefs, and this could be a potential cause. My friend also mentioned that Prince's belief in Jehovah, meant he would most likely no longer fear death.

Anyway, I reflected on what was said, and have to admit, I could potentially sense such a scenario coming to a head aswell. In fact, I think I've subconsciously held this fear particularly in more recent times without actually coming to terms with it/ acknowleding it with anyone else. As such, I thought it might be worthwhile sharing and discussing this here, to see how you all feel about the subject.
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Reply #1 posted 07/21/04 7:44am

Handclapsfinga
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more than likely he'd get killed by a crazed/obsessed fammy-fam than one who doesn't like or agree with his current beliefs.
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Reply #2 posted 07/21/04 7:48am

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I don't have to like Prince or his choice of beliefs. But I'd rather see him believing and searching for our creator, as opposed to a drugged out, rock n' roll life.

The majority of sensible fans will ultimately respect him as a person and his freedom of choice/free will. His chosen "religion" would only be used as an excuse, if some mental case stalker, ever gunned him down, in similar fashion to Lennon.
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Reply #3 posted 07/21/04 7:55am

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Probably true. I don't care what he does with his life but some as long as he dont hurt himself. But something might come along and yes (not pointing fingers) us crazed fans might either drive him insain or just plain capture, torture and bye bye. boxed
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Reply #4 posted 07/21/04 8:18am

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[This message was edited Wed Jul 21 8:28:14 2004 by Moonwalkbjrain]
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Reply #5 posted 07/21/04 8:20am

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. My friend also mentioned that Prince's belief in Jehovah, meant he would most likely no longer fear death.


well prince always believed n jehovah he just called him a different name b4 now..also y should n e 1 b afraid of death? i think the only ones who should b afraid of death r bad ppl..like rapists, child mollesters, murders, etc etc.
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Reply #6 posted 07/21/04 8:33am

thedoorkeeper

Anji said:

we are in realistic danger of an attempt on Prince's life.


Is there some evidence to back up a real danger to Prince's life aside from your paranoia?
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Reply #7 posted 07/21/04 8:34am

Handclapsfinga
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thedoorkeeper said:

Anji said:

we are in realistic danger of an attempt on Prince's life.


Is there some evidence to back up a real danger to Prince's life aside from your paranoia?

seriously.
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Reply #8 posted 07/21/04 8:40am

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Anji said:

I find that there's a signicant element of those who have followed Prince who simply just do not like who he is (or has become) as a person, irrespective of his particular beliefs, and this could be a potential cause.

Who are these people? How many have you found that represent 'a significant element' of Prince's following?

Are you able to identify anyone that you consider has bred such resentment for the person Prince has become that you consider they now pose a realistic threat to his life?
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Reply #9 posted 07/21/04 8:44am

GangstaFam

Oh jeez. Here we go.
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Reply #10 posted 07/21/04 9:12am

freakebear

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Given the number of truly disturbed people in his fanbase, I'd say it's not out of the question. I hope he has a good security staff.
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Reply #11 posted 07/21/04 9:41am

goat2004

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Given the number of truly disturbed people in his fanbase, I'd say it's not out of the question. I hope he has a good security staff.



Dude, this is really stupid. Sorry, not feeling this topic at all and I'm surprised the ORG staff let this fly? 50 Cent, Snoop Doog - yeah, but Prince, c'mon dude. Who is Prince a threat to?

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Reply #12 posted 07/21/04 10:19am

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Why is it stupid? Look around on these boards and tell me I am lying.

It's not that he's a threat to anyone. Who was John Lennon a threat to? Only a lunatic fan.
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Reply #13 posted 07/21/04 10:28am

muleFunk

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Anji has a valid point .

Prince has become more radical in his music lately i.e. Bob Marley.Strange things happen to those who question the "system".
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Reply #14 posted 07/21/04 11:03am

NouveauDance

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Hilarious!
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Reply #15 posted 07/21/04 11:36am

goat2004

muleFunk said:

Anji has a valid point .

Prince has become more radical in his music lately i.e. Bob Marley.Strange things happen to those who question the "system".


I mean his music is a little more radical, but he's not Jadakiss - saying "Why did Bush take down the Towers," and he's not singing about being a Jehova's Witness. So is Kayne West (Jeses Walks) life in danger too?...and what about R.kelly/M.Jackson for what they are accused of? Prince seems far removed from the name I just mentioned.
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Reply #16 posted 07/21/04 11:43am

goat2004

muleFunk said:

Anji has a valid point .

Prince has become more radical in his music lately i.e. Bob Marley.Strange things happen to those who question the "system".


I mean his music is a little more radical, but he's not Jadakiss - saying "Why did Bush take down the Towers," and he's not singing about being a Jehova's Witness. So is Kayne West (Jeses Walks) life in danger too?...and what about R.kelly/M.Jackson for what they are accused of? Prince seems far removed from the name I just mentioned.
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Reply #17 posted 07/21/04 11:53am

Luli

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I have been Prince's fan for ages...I've been accompanying his changes with respect...I've been away from him when he changed his name to a symbol, but now I am in peace with him again ...and even though I am an agnostic, I respect every persons beliefs if I still have some sort of communication with him/her, if not I would just step back and let the person live his/her own life as intended. As long as we still can have any kind of relationship, it's fine with me...I know there are ignorant people around who does not agree with a person's point of view and that sure is scary...I hope people come to a sense that each one is an individual and can choose whichever way to live, as long as one respects the other person's space and territory.
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Reply #18 posted 07/21/04 12:10pm

HisRoyalBadnes
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Princes life is in danger as much as any one of our lives are. what a stupid moronic topic to bring up this cat is a performer okay and I think everyone undedrstands that.Prince elicits peace thru his music and gives off a good vibe not like some hip hop gangster asshole rapping about shooting people and beating women and whatnot. why dont you bring this question up at the eninem or 50 cent website, leave Prince out of this.I havent seen such a stupid post in all my time at the org.
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Reply #19 posted 07/21/04 12:11pm

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Anji said:

A friend recently made an interesting point, it's a sensitive subject, so bear with me.

He remarked that he felt many fans nowadays resent Prince for holding the beliefs he does because they do not coincide with theirs, to the extent that, as a community, we are in realistic danger of an attempt on Prince's life (similar to John Lennon's passing). Personally speaking, I find that there's a signicant element of those who have followed Prince who simply just do not like who he is (or has become) as a person, irrespective of his particular beliefs, and this could be a potential cause. My friend also mentioned that Prince's belief in Jehovah, meant he would most likely no longer fear death.

Anyway, I reflected on what was said, and have to admit, I could potentially sense such a scenario coming to a head aswell. In fact, I think I've subconsciously held this fear particularly in more recent times without actually coming to terms with it/ acknowleding it with anyone else. As such, I thought it might be worthwhile sharing and discussing this here, to see how you all feel about the subject.


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Reply #20 posted 07/21/04 12:17pm

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muleFunk said:

Anji has a valid point .

Prince has become more radical in his music lately i.e. Bob Marley.Strange things happen to those who question the "system".


i feel the x files music commin on.
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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Reply #21 posted 07/21/04 12:33pm

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Anji, I think you're premature on this topic...
While being a tad more explicit on his political views lately, Prince is
far from a political activist. His stance seems to be to enlighten folks, but stops
short of an all-out radical revolution. Frankly, Prince doesn't hold the public's ear.
He's regarded as too weird, too eccentric to hold any validity.

He's a very astute man, and if he should ever decide to focus his political views
and concentrate on helping people to change the system, only then would he
be in danger, imo.

But, I don't see him doing that...he just wants to be a 'little ole guitar playin' man'

*EDIT~That's not to say that some crazy ass FAM wouldn't OFF him and blame his
religious views or political views, but that's just a crazy ass FAM.
[This message was edited Wed Jul 21 12:35:56 2004 by Revolution]
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Reply #22 posted 07/21/04 1:16pm

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Wow , and this kind of thread coming from someone like Anji, who usually comes across as being some sort of " close " to Prince..
I guess some of you know what I mean....

I mean I do catch your drift, but still, this is on the verge of being insensitive and tactless. Much like all those threads speculating about Mani, Mayte, his child´s death, deformed toes, his eating habits, choice of religion or whatever.
At least he is searching and not freebasing in some basement raping and torturing teenagers like Rick James did. I don´t care whether he´s Buddhist, Muslim, Christian etc., to me it all boils down to being on a spiritual journey, which he´s always been.

But back to your topic.I think showing the industry the finger and inspiring other artists to do the same plus the serious beef he had with WB especially between 93 and 2000 would be much more of a reason if we want to stay in this negative mindset.
I ( or anybody else on the org) could probably easily come up with a hundred other pseudoreasons for a possible assassination but seriously, there are other artists who are much more outspoken about certain issues, and they´re still alive.
You do have a point in the sense that people in the spotlight ( with a megastar status such as Madonna, Springsteen or M.Jackson ...or Prince) are being scrutinized much more intensely by the general public than, say, Rage Against The Machine or some other "radical" pop icons, but still, just the thought is sick.
Let us please focus on some positivity and not speculations about what sinister plans some weirdos MIGHT have.

Personally, despite all the Larryism, JWs, friction years, blablabla, I´m really happy about the way things are. The man seems to be happy too, so let´s just enjoy the present , which, to quote the man himself, is a gift in itself.
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #23 posted 07/21/04 1:24pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

more than likely he'd get killed by a crazed/obsessed fammy-fam than one who doesn't like or agree with his current beliefs.


or more precisely, see the this topics starter.
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Reply #24 posted 07/21/04 1:28pm

psykosoul

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Anji, I think you're premature on this topic...
While being a tad more explicit on his political views lately, Prince is
far from a political activist. His stance seems to be to enlighten folks, but stops
short of an all-out radical revolution. Frankly, Prince doesn't hold the public's ear.
He's regarded as too weird, too eccentric to hold any validity.

He's a very astute man, and if he should ever decide to focus his political views
and concentrate on helping people to change the system, only then would he
be in danger, imo.

But, I don't see him doing that...he just wants to be a 'little ole guitar playin' man'

*EDIT~That's not to say that some crazy ass FAM wouldn't OFF him and blame his
religious views or political views, but that's just a crazy ass FAM.
[This message was edited Wed Jul 21 12:35:56 2004 by Revolution]



nod

Though, I love the songs with political references. Prince has yet to make his "Say It Loud" or "Choice of Colors"
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Reply #25 posted 07/21/04 1:30pm

Handclapsfinga
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dumbass said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

more than likely he'd get killed by a crazed/obsessed fammy-fam than one who doesn't like or agree with his current beliefs.


or more precisely, see the this topics starter.

damn, that's cold. evillol

but yeah: anji, i don't see what your cause for concern is--even though you're puttin this out there as somethin for discussion. the brotha ain't no weather underground-militant midget-whatever's clever. y'know...sometimes it seems like people think he'd be some sorta martyr or whatever if he were to die or somethin. what p speaks of now pretty much has already been said--and better said, quite frankly.

i'll stick to my above initial reply. the only danger he'd face would be from the psycho-fams.
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Reply #26 posted 07/21/04 2:05pm

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This thread makes me feel all icky inside pout
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #27 posted 07/21/04 2:55pm

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CalhounSq said:

This thread makes me feel all icky inside pout



Here ya go donut

That'll make you feel better. biggrin
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Reply #28 posted 07/21/04 3:35pm

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I can't see why anyone would get upset over such a theoretical discussion, but whatever. It's not like anyone is wishing harm on the man!

Whether there's anything in Prince's music, politics or religious beliefs that might provoke an attack is irrelevant. Lunatics don't need a valid reason to assault someone. Hinckley shot Reagan "for Jodie". Mark David Chapman killed John Lennon because voices in his head told him to. All it takes is one nutjob with a Prince obsession, and we all know there are plenty of those.

Presumably Prince's security is aware of the threat and takes appropriate precautions, since you can't even snap a pic of him without getting the smackdown.
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Reply #29 posted 07/21/04 4:34pm

TimCalhoun

If you are concerned about Prince's welfare and physical safety, you should call him up and discuss your worries with him. I'm sure he'd be touched and love to hear from you.

Report back here after you speak with him.
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