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Reply #30 posted 07/23/04 9:27am

sloopydrew4u

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vainandy said:

If Prince had never existed from the years 1978-1984 and would have come out with "Around The World In A Day" as his first album and continued on the same to the present, I don't think I would have been a Prince fan at all.


I think Around the World in a Day is one of Prince's best albums. You seem SO concerned about fake horns and simplistic music. Prince has grown. When will you?

Luv & Peace,
Alex
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Reply #31 posted 07/23/04 9:42am

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I love all the years, but for me, the 82-88 period is not only Prince's best, but one of the most influencial outputs in music.

In five and a half short years...

1999
PR
ATWIAD
Parade
SOTT
The Black Album
Lovesexy
5 tours
3 films
B-sides
Madhouse
The Time Sheila E
The Family
Vanity 6
Jill Jones
Manic monday
Sugar walls
etc.
etc.

And its not about the volume. Look at the quality in there, and more importantly, look at the effect his music from that period had on other musicials.

Thats 7 albums (two double) in less than 6 years, and each one, was in its time, a "Rainbow Children" epic.

Sure some of it didn't date to well, but in its time, it ruled.

Prince was truely breaking the mould then. No old skool, no Larry, and Kirky J.

The 90's stuff was good, and the 00's stuff even better, but no one can convince me that they are even in the same league at the 82-88 period, commercially or artistically.

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Reply #32 posted 07/23/04 12:25pm

garganta

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Reply #33 posted 07/23/04 5:40pm

funkaholic1972

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That's really easy: 78-93 wins hands down! His music was fresh and original, and still "poppy" enough to sell. His best years were 79-87 IMO.

I agree that if Prince had toned down his "weirdness" and had focussed more on the music than on his battle against WB, he would have sold a lot more albums in the 90's.

I love TRC, it's one of my favorite Prince albums of all time, and I like Musicology a lot, but the rest of the 88-04 albums were too much flawed for me.
RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #34 posted 07/23/04 8:09pm

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mrdespues said:

Why these years in particular?

To me, Prince was best between 80 and 04, 'cause even though I don't think Musicology is his best album he still kicks it just as good (but different now) live!


I agree, his best years for me are 80-04
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Reply #35 posted 07/23/04 8:10pm

Zogmuffin

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Reply #36 posted 07/23/04 8:25pm

Paisley4u

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Maybe!!We would look back at the 90´s in a different way
if He only would have released these albums,by a major record
company supporting him-single releases,video´s,promo...
just like in the 80´s.

Diamonds & Pearls
Symbol
The Hits
Gold Experience
Emancipation (1CD!!! including:Slave
Sex in the summer
Somebody´s somebody
The Holy River
Saviour
Joint2joint
Style
Sleep around
My computer
White mansion
Soul sanctuary
The love we make
Betcha by Golly wow
Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic
The Rainbow Children
Musicology
Love4oneanother
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Reply #37 posted 07/23/04 9:00pm

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sloopydrew4u said:



I think Around the World in a Day is one of Prince's best albums. You seem SO concerned about fake horns and simplistic music. Prince has grown. When will you?


The question was if I thought Prince was better between 78 & 93 or 94 & now. Another person raised the stakes even higher and asked would we still have been fans if the first decade had not existed. I was simply giving my opinion and letting the person know it didn't have to be the first decade missing, it could have only been the early years.

I did mention that I had to adjust to the different styles afterwards but you did not include that in your quote. I would think adjusting would be growing. If I never adjusted and I flat out didn't like it, I would have dumped Prince after the style change. I have no problem dumping an artist after I know longer like their style of music, I did it with Janet Jackson when she released "Janet" after "Rhythm Nation".

As for the original question of which years I thought were better, my answer is still the same...the early years. I'm sorry, that's what I prefer and I can't change what I prefer, that's just the way it is, it's not possible. Just because I prefer the early years does not mean I do not like the later years. There's nothing wrong with wanting more of your favorite.

I like the new Prince. I LOVE the "old Prince".
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #38 posted 07/23/04 9:18pm

Paisley4u

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suomynona said:

let's take it a step further... why not just cut it off at his first decade?

i don't think 90% of the devoted admirers of his 80s work would've hung in there between the 1989-2004 years, without the 1978-1988 years...

i'd go a step further to say that 9 out of 10 admirers would've never bought a prince album... or gone to one of his concerts if he had never had the 1978-1988 years...

you can say i'm wrong, but look at the songs he performs in concert. most of them are from 1978-1988... without those songs, he'd be going more covers (which i'm fine with), and still have kirky j, dougie fresh, and tony m still in the band...



Hmmm,maybe I wouldn´t have been such a big Prince fan because
Purple Rain & SOTT were the soundtrack of my yought and I really
LOOOOVE Lovesexy,so...
But I know 4 sure I would have bought the Batman album because when
I heard Batdance 4 the first time I was crazy about it and I didn´t know
it was Prince´s new single untill I heard his voice.Same 4 D&P and Symbol
I would have had so many good memories about his music but sure would
like his music just the same!´My name is Prince´..I just loved this kind off
grooves those days.(Someone mentioned Rythm Nation..loved that one also).
Love4oneanother
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Reply #39 posted 07/23/04 9:19pm

Paisley4u

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Paisley4u said:

suomynona said:

let's take it a step further... why not just cut it off at his first decade?

i don't think 90% of the devoted admirers of his 80s work would've hung in there between the 1989-2004 years, without the 1978-1988 years...

i'd go a step further to say that 9 out of 10 admirers would've never bought a prince album... or gone to one of his concerts if he had never had the 1978-1988 years...

you can say i'm wrong, but look at the songs he performs in concert. most of them are from 1978-1988... without those songs, he'd be going more covers (which i'm fine with), and still have kirky j, dougie fresh, and tony m still in the band...



Hmmm,maybe I wouldn´t have been such a big Prince fan because
Purple Rain & SOTT were the soundtrack of my yought and I really
LOOOOVE Lovesexy,so...
But I know 4 sure I wouldn´t have bought the Batman album because when
I heard Batdance 4 the first time I was crazy about it and I didn´t know
it was Prince´s new single untill I heard his voice.Same 4 D&P and Symbol
I would have had so many good memories about his music but sure would
like his music just the same!´My name is Prince´..I just loved this kind off
grooves those days.(Someone mentioned Rythm Nation..loved that one also).
Love4oneanother
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Reply #40 posted 07/23/04 9:20pm

Paisley4u

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Paisley4u said:

Paisley4u said:




Hmmm,maybe I wouldn´t have been such a big Prince fan because
Purple Rain & SOTT were the soundtrack of my yought and I really
LOOOOVE Lovesexy,so...
But I know 4 sure I would have bought the Batman album because when
I heard Batdance 4 the first time I was crazy about it and I didn´t know
it was Prince´s new single untill I heard his voice.Same 4 D&P and Symbol
I wouldn´t have had so many good memories about his music but sure would
like his music just the same!´My name is Prince´..I just loved this kind off
grooves those days.(Someone mentioned Rythm Nation..loved that one also).
Love4oneanother
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Reply #41 posted 07/23/04 9:24pm

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If it had not been for the music he made during 78' & 93', I probably never would have become a fan. The music after 93' up till now seems to lack effort on his part.
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Reply #42 posted 07/23/04 10:52pm

doeineffect

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From Controversy (1981) to Lovesexy (1988) Prince was THE MAN!!
Not only becuse of his work, but for all of the side projects.

Then Batman came along in 1989 and I sensed a change. It was the 1st time I had seen one of his songs (Batdance) remixed on a 12" single.

Graffiti Bridge hit, and then it went downhill until the Gold Experience, went up a notch and then leveled out with Chaos, Emancipation, Rave, etc. Then with Rainbow Children he went thru the roof (musically) and now he is at his musical peak once again with Musicology.

Let's hope he stays there.
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Reply #43 posted 07/24/04 12:01am

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Paisley4u said:

Maybe!!We would look back at the 90´s in a different way
if He only would have released these albums,by a major record
company supporting him-single releases,video´s,promo...
just like in the 80´s.

Diamonds & Pearls
Symbol
The Hits
Gold Experience
Emancipation (1CD!!! including:Slave
Sex in the summer
Somebody´s somebody
The Holy River
Saviour
Joint2joint
Style
Sleep around
My computer
White mansion
Soul sanctuary
The love we make
Betcha by Golly wow
Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic
The Rainbow Children
Musicology


This section is great, but unlike the 82-88, you have picked 40% of your listing from an album that was not only a big commercial flop, but wasn't even a fan favourite. Its hardly an advertisment for success.
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Reply #44 posted 07/24/04 12:42am

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I think 99.87% of the world's population would agree that Prince was better in the first half.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

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Reply #45 posted 07/24/04 12:48am

UncleGrandpa

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If he didn't matter at any time, why are we here?
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Reply #46 posted 07/24/04 1:09am

PurpleKnight

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It's like this.

Prince's songwriting ability in the 90's and beyond? Just as great as the 80's.

Prince's albums in the 90's and beyond? Nowhere near as great as the 80's.


So many of his albums in the 90's had too many filler songs that dragged down their overall quality, whereas most of his 80's albums had beautiful consistency.

But still, Prince is just as great a live performer now as he always was, except in a different way now.

[This message was edited Fri Jul 23 18:10:42 2004 by PurpleKnight]
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Reply #47 posted 07/24/04 3:55am

Contro

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SquirrelMeat said:

I love all the years, but for me, the 82-88 period is not only Prince's best, but one of the most influencial outputs in music.

In five and a half short years...

1999
PR
ATWIAD
Parade
SOTT
The Black Album
Lovesexy
5 tours
3 films
B-sides
Madhouse
The Time Sheila E
The Family
Vanity 6
Jill Jones
Manic monday
Sugar walls
etc.
etc.

And its not about the volume. Look at the quality in there, and more importantly, look at the effect his music from that period had on other musicials.

Thats 7 albums (two double) in less than 6 years, and each one, was in its time, a "Rainbow Children" epic.

Sure some of it didn't date to well, but in its time, it ruled.

Prince was truely breaking the mould then. No old skool, no Larry, and Kirky J.

The 90's stuff was good, and the 00's stuff even better, but no one can convince me that they are even in the same league at the 82-88 period, commercially or artistically.

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CO CO CO CO SIGN!!!... Lets not forget Mazerati, Apollonia 6 ( I still love "Sex Shooter to this day). I am only 26...I was 5 or 6 when I was jamming "Little Red Corvette" and "Delirious" in '83..I didnt fully understand Lady Cab Driver (now i do)..and i Remember my mom playing " I Wanna Be Your Lover" and having the 8-Track to DIRTY MIND. I remember going to the record store in 85 with my brother and mother, and her giving ME the chance to chooose the next album the "family" bought. It was tough between "Romance 1600" from Shelia and "The Colour Of Success" by morris. I remember sneaking into PURPLE RAIN when my mom took us to see the MUPPETS TAKE MANHATTAN!! Basically those memories ALL were around that 82-88 period. I would say his strongest was from 81-89 ( I loved batman)... he hiccuped and made great but not stellar music thru 95...and then it was spotty... THIS ERA CHANGED MY LIFE.
Tsk Tsk, What a pity...sometimes Life can be so shitty....
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Reply #48 posted 07/24/04 8:19am

sloopydrew4u

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vainandy said:[quote]

sloopydrew4u said:



I think Around the World in a Day is one of Prince's best albums. You seem SO concerned about fake horns and simplistic music. Prince has grown. When will you?


The question was if I thought Prince was better between 78 & 93 or 94 & now. Another person raised the stakes even higher and asked would we still have been fans if the first decade had not existed. I was simply giving my opinion and letting the person know it didn't have to be the first decade missing, it could have only been the early years.

I did mention that I had to adjust to the different styles afterwards but you did not include that in your quote. I would think adjusting would be growing. If I never adjusted and I flat out didn't like it, I would have dumped Prince after the style change. I have no problem dumping an artist after I know longer like their style of music, I did it with Janet Jackson when she released "Janet" after "Rhythm Nation".

As for the original question of which years I thought were better, my answer is still the same...the early years. I'm sorry, that's what I prefer and I can't change what I prefer, that's just the way it is, it's not possible. Just because I prefer the early years does not mean I do not like the later years. There's nothing wrong with wanting more of your favorite.

I like the new Prince. I LOVE the "old Prince".


Fair enough. Sorry if I offended u.

Luv & Peace,
Alex
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