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Reply #30 posted 07/21/04 10:46pm

chiltonmusic

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Anji said:

A friend recently made an interesting point, it's a sensitive subject, so bear with me.

He remarked that he felt many fans nowadays resent Prince for holding the beliefs he does because they do not coincide with theirs, to the extent that, as a community, we are in realistic danger of an attempt on Prince's life (similar to John Lennon's passing). Personally speaking, I find that there's a signicant element of those who have followed Prince who simply just do not like who he is (or has become) as a person, irrespective of his particular beliefs, and this could be a potential cause. My friend also mentioned that Prince's belief in Jehovah, meant he would most likely no longer fear death.

Anyway, I reflected on what was said, and have to admit, I could potentially sense such a scenario coming to a head aswell. In fact, I think I've subconsciously held this fear particularly in more recent times without actually coming to terms with it/ acknowleding it with anyone else. As such, I thought it might be worthwhile sharing and discussing this here, to see how you all feel about the subject.


You know I have feared about his life for a different reason. I thought all his power moves against the industry would have had him dead really. I mean he is really shaking a very big tree and being quite successful doing it. Doesn't it strike anyone odd that Madonna choose now to go on tour what with all her drama with WB?

Anyway I have felt for sometime now someone who was feeling the heat of his revolution and belive me it is a revolution would really take him out. Maybe I am just blowing this all out of proportion. Maybe like the earlier post said he has more to fear from some "Famatic" though I like the term fam.

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Reply #31 posted 07/21/04 10:54pm

Zelaira

He's a Good Soul. I Hope People Realize this. He does Alot for Charity and his Fans and ya Know he just wants Privacy and to live like Everyone else so I would Hope Crazies would Not Hurt him..Remember he's Not Into Fighting..Look at Lovesexy and Graffiti Bridge. Plus Prince is Embracing Religion and Family so for Anyone to EVER Hurt Him would be Evil. He is Entitled to his Own Opinions on POLITICS and His LIFE ISSUES...I Truly Wish Crazy Deranged Psychos would Leave Fans alone. Why would ANYONE EVER HURT THEIR GURU and Why Hurt AnybodyPERIOD....Not God's Way....Live in Peace and Love...You Will Be Happier seeing the Pleasure,Joy and Optimism...In Life....
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Reply #32 posted 07/21/04 11:08pm

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Hmmm... rolleyes
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Reply #33 posted 07/21/04 11:40pm

MrSquiggle

muleFunk said:


Prince has become more radical in his music lately i.e. Bob Marley.Strange things happen to those who question the "system".


falloff Like the CIA totally haven't got better things to do after a musician writes two protest songs!
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Reply #34 posted 07/21/04 11:51pm

Zelaira

People will just write it off as weird like they Always do when They Don't Understand Prince! Remember The Lyrics to We Are The NPG .....What's COOl To Us...Might be STRANGE To YOU! Hope so...!!! Nothing was Cooler than Prince as TORa,TORA TORA....and I Always Understood the Name Change so That Never Came off as Odd. That was Necessary due to Prince's Situation with Warner Brothers. People who Don't Understand Prince well Why ya Analyzing ANYWAY? Kinda Mad! What We all DRS of The BRAIN??? I Just say Enjoy his Talent and Shiwmanship. Don't get All WORKED UP...This is His Feeling Towards Issues. He's Entitled and this is America so Prince can Be OPEN and VOICE his OPINION>>>
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Reply #35 posted 07/22/04 12:03am

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Reply #36 posted 07/22/04 12:25am

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hrmmm....well there was that crazed kid who tried to take his photo at the airport.....reports are just flooding in that this was somehow tied in to an assasination attempt on our dear mr man biggrin
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Reply #37 posted 07/22/04 12:59am

cranshaw62

Let's not give anyone any ideas with a thread like this.

Maybe Rick James might by hiding out at Paisley Park trying to get to the rest of the ruffles he stole in the 80's.

Rick had kewl song called "Turn It Up" a few years back that was "Prince like."

In the video he was playing guitar and he went to sling the guitar around his back like Prince and his gut got in the way. Watch the video and see.
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Reply #38 posted 07/22/04 1:24am

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No.

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Alex
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Reply #39 posted 07/22/04 2:11am

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MrSquiggle said:

muleFunk said:


Prince has become more radical in his music lately i.e. Bob Marley.Strange things happen to those who question the "system".


falloff Like the CIA totally haven't got better things to do after a musician writes two protest songs!


yea its not like he's Michael Moore or something.....hmmmmm eek
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Reply #40 posted 07/22/04 2:42am

PEJ

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goat2004 said:

freakebear said:

Given the number of truly disturbed people in his fanbase, I'd say it's not out of the question. I hope he has a good security staff.



Dude, this is really stupid. Sorry, not feeling this topic at all and I'm surprised the ORG staff let this fly? 50 Cent, Snoop Doog - yeah, but Prince, c'mon dude. Who is Prince a threat to?

mad mad rolleyes




to call anji stupid is like saying shakespeare wasn't a poet...

the so-called-fan that killed John Lennon was one of his biggest fans that claimed an angel told him to do it wacky ... why would someone want to kill a peaceful hippy like John? unless they were wacky

Selena paid a high price for her fame: her life. Selena's life came to a tragic end on March 31, 1995 when she was shot once in the back by her dear friend, and president of her fan club. After Selena accused Yolanda Saldivar of embezzling money from the fan club, she shot Selena in the back once. This one gunshot wound killed Selena, thus ending her short-lived career.

... and how about the near assasination attempt on BOB MARLEY which he barely survived... he's singing reggae music for cryin out loud, who would wanna kill him?

Prince has gotten under a lot of peoples skin for many reasons... there's probably alot of fathers who would have rather their adolecent daughters didn't plaster this erotic sex freak all over their walls back in the day and wouldn't have minded getting their hands on him since their lil girl had sex at such a young age due to their main influence and idol... Prince !!! plus he's black so imagine how many racists hated him...


Far before 50cent or PAC or any rapper for that matter Prince had major bodyguards for major reasons!!! You'd be surprised at the calls he or his staff have recieved. Death threats are probably the reason he even hired bodyguards back in the day due to his rising fame and success! I have had the chance to speak with a few of his bodyguards in the past so I ain't bullshittin here. Joey, the short mexican guy who was his main bodyguard back in 91-92 era told me when they come to LA some wacko nutcase somehow finds out which hotel and room P's stayin in and usually tries to stray whomever answers away from them thinking he may be a bad guy and is truely a dear fan.... that's when they tighten security!!! I mean it's kinda scary that dude knew the hotel and room# and if I recall stars usually don't use their real names on the bill.


btw if Rkelly was accused of statuatory rape or what ever pedaphelic charge they tried to pin on him his life would mos def be at risk! both on the outs and the inside !!




the I'd take a bullet for Prince edit...
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Reply #41 posted 07/22/04 4:35am

Luli

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sad I know there are crazy people out there that does not respect ones opinion or changes...I disliked Prince's songs when he was "the symbol"...I stepped back and let him be, it was his choice..slowly he is now the way I always liked him and now we talk the same musical language, even though I am an agnostic and does not believe in any religion...it's his choice to be whoever's witness he wants. I always respected him and always will no matter what he wants to do..as long as he is continues making good music, of course. [b]
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Reply #42 posted 07/22/04 4:39am

Anji

thedoorkeeper said:

Anji said:

we are in realistic danger of an attempt on Prince's life.


Is there some evidence to back up a real danger to Prince's life aside from your paranoia?
Perhaps you might consider reading the initial post again, thedoorkeeper. It's not my paranoia. Like I said, this thread resulted from a friend's concerns, and it simply served to initiate a fear I had within myself that I hadn't acknowledged.

As for whether there is any evidence, it's really not in my interests or profession to research such stuff. I'm sure there have been plenty of potential warning signs, such is the nature of celebrity, and Prince has always made his feelings known regarding a need for security.
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Reply #43 posted 07/22/04 4:44am

Anji

langebleu said:

Anji said:

I find that there's a signicant element of those who have followed Prince who simply just do not like who he is (or has become) as a person, irrespective of his particular beliefs, and this could be a potential cause.

Who are these people? How many have you found that represent 'a significant element' of Prince's following?

Are you able to identify anyone that you consider has bred such resentment for the person Prince has become that you consider they now pose a realistic threat to his life?
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langebleu, a significant element of your online personality possesses what Freud referred to as the anal personality. Would you like me to list all the many posts which draw me to this conclusion? It's simply not necessary, as it is not necessary to draw up research regarding this thread. It's simply for discussion, whether you agree with the probablities or not.

If it makes you feel better to have significant evidence gathered by some kind of research, I suggest you do the work (given that's the type of role you appear to relish).

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Reply #44 posted 07/22/04 4:48am

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Some of you think this is bullshit but truth in some cases is stranger than fiction.

Prince was on national television Tuesday and the lyrics to Cinnamon Girl were posted for all to see.


" So began a mass illiusion , War on Terror alibi."

I said uh oh !

To reference my claims go research the Phoenix program that was used during the Vietnam War and the Cointelpro operations performed by the FBI.
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Reply #45 posted 07/22/04 4:50am

Anji

muleFunk said:

Anji has a valid point .

Prince has become more radical in his music lately i.e. Bob Marley.Strange things happen to those who question the "system".
Thank you, mule. I agree, it's certainly NOT out of the question, although I knew it would 'spark' all kinds of irrational or deliberately confrontational thought amongst many here.

Regardless, is it better to pose the question beforehand, and discuss any potential issues to see how people feel, or simply sweep the subject under the carpet?
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Reply #46 posted 07/22/04 4:53am

Anji

HisRoyalBadness07 said:

I havent seen such a stupid post in all my time at the org.
What if something did happen? Would you still call this topic stupid then? Perhaps you're simply sidestepping the more important issues at hand.
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Reply #47 posted 07/22/04 5:00am

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Look for these things to happen or not.

1. Character assassination- Prince may not need to worry because he has enough skeletons to make this very easy.When someone gains a political base one way to control or to destroy them is to assassinate the character.Sex is often used as a method to obtain this goal.This is what happens to a lot of political and social figures.

2. Discredit the person- Prince has already been dicredited in the eyes of many because of his name change, dress, ect. The easiest way to do this is to say the person is "crazy" or "odd".Prince accomplished this in 1978.


3. Physical assassination- Last resort used when all other methods fail then physical assassination or neutralization is used to silence the individual.


Prince on his own has accomplished 2 of the 3.My concern is in regards to how loud his voice will get in opposition to the War in Iraq.
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Reply #48 posted 07/22/04 5:02am

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Mazerati said:

MrSquiggle said:



falloff Like the CIA totally haven't got better things to do after a musician writes two protest songs!


yea its not like he's Michael Moore or something.....hmmmmm eek



Mike would be HIGH on someone's list right now however look at my previous post and wait for those 3 things to happen.This is some serious shit.
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Reply #49 posted 07/22/04 5:12am

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Reply #50 posted 07/22/04 8:33am

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Prince on his own has accomplished 2 of the 3.My concern is in regards to how loud his voice will get in opposition to the War in Iraq.


Frankly, no one could give a shit what Prince thinks about the war in Iraq. We have a nation of people whose most complex thought is whether or not to get cheese on their burger at McDonald's. Prince could spend every concert, every PR appearance, speaking out against Iraq, and no one but the people on Prince websites would even notice. If Michael Moore's film doesn't increase the ire in our country ("Hm... interesting film. Let's get a taco"), nothing will.

For good reason, people don't want to hear what most celebrities think about touchy subjects. And while Prince is infintesimally smarter than most celebrities, and probably better versed in current events, his sheer oddness makes him all but irrelevant to the general public when it comes to national/political/social issues. The Dixie Chicks scared so many people because of their seeming "normalcy", and the way that they can easily represent/reflect the mainstream.

Prince by his very nature can't be considered mainstream (when's the last time the guy's worn a T-shirt and a pair of jeans?). He's not like "us". So he's not politically threatening to the right wing. "Yeah, yeah, it's just that Prince freak. Who cares?". It's like when Marlon Brando would occassionally speak out (i.e. his Godfather "acceptance" speech). People just roll their eyes and go on with their day.

Yes, Prince could always be threatened by a crazy fan, but so can ANY celebrity. Remember Rebecca Schaffer? Gunned down in her doorway by a crazy fan. Who the fuck was she? A C-level actress on one TV show. To ruminate on whether or not Prince is shaking up the "system" or not, inspiring a backlash/response, is simply laughable.

However, reading the paranoia here makes for one of the most entertaining threads in days.
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Reply #51 posted 07/22/04 8:43am

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Anji said:

langebleu said:


Who are these people? How many have you found that represent 'a significant element' of Prince's following?

Are you able to identify anyone that you consider has bred such resentment for the person Prince has become that you consider they now pose a realistic threat to his life?
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langebleu, a significant element of your online personality possesses what Freud referred to as the anal personality. Would you like me to list all the many posts which draw me to this conclusion? It's simply not necessary, as it is not necessary to draw up research regarding this thread. It's simply for discussion, whether you agree with the probablities or not.

If it makes you feel better to have significant evidence gathered by some kind of research, I suggest you do the work (given that's the type of role you appear to relish).

Your discussion started by making some assertions and then asking what people feel about those statements.

My own opinion is that I don't see a significant element of Prince's following exhibiting the level of resentment that you seem to believe could realistically result in someone taking a pop at him because of the person he has become.

However, given that you seem to think otherwise, I wanted to know what evidence you had to support the view that you take. I'm not asking for lists of posts ... just some evidence .. any ... that there are people out there who now pose a realistic threat to Prince's life based on the person he has become.
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Reply #52 posted 07/22/04 8:49am

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a bunch of hokey conspiracy stuff

all of that would, at best, make for a low-grade online indie film, perhaps. neutral

this whole thing is a load of steaming warthog entrails as it is...for one, it borders on outright trippy-obsessive, as if you want a brotha to get killed. lockin this.

ill-thought conspiracy theories are bad children, mm-kay? lock
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