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Printablerighteous1 said: Even though I love "P" we have to look at it in the scope of some of the other posters here.
JB IS the hardest working man in show buisness and will die with that title. Sure "P" is a workaholic but in HIS own right...of course my opion only. If I can say that Prince at 46 and JB at 74 are about equal in shows in this day only...when it comes to shows and musical feats "P" has some catching up to do. No diss at all but really the truth. Thank you. Let`s not forget the musical impact either. JB has changed the direction of black music. Back in the mid-1960s, he has shaped it for decades to come. His impact can be felt even today. His sound is everywhere, including Prince`s music. | |
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Prince may be the hardest working man in show business.
But James is "The Hardest Working Man in Show Business" Check this song out at:
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Ubiquity said: newdawn said: You all read that from a line that i wrote?! Strange ... because I don't think any artist is better than another. But JB and George had to work harder to get there! When Prince years and years later was ready to play they allready openend doors for him. Period. It was a totally different era... I know what Prince did for George, but do you know what George did by himself? He got his own funk, like JB who has got his own ingredients of his own funk. You can say what you want but they are pretty much the inventors of funk. Congrats on you being a Pro Prince. (whatever that means..) But you need to catch up on your history of the FUNK....  James Brown is an exceptional artist. Back in the mid-1950s he had to work his way up like almost no other, often playing 3-6 shows a day (!), 350 days a year, traveling in an old stationwagon from city to city, bar to bar, bowling joing to bowling joint (entering the venues through the backdoor, often fucked over by promoters). Even way into the 1970s, James was performing three shows a day, 300 days a year. In between, he would record more than 150 albums and release more than 300 singles. Prince had it pretty easy, jamming in some school bands, scoring a record deal with WB at age 20. Almost from the very beginning of his professional recording Prince had everything made easy for him, all he had to do was create. And I totally disagree with PEJ. Prince is by far not the funkiest musician. Prince can be funky, yes... but he`s a pop-artist. He never got as funky as JB, even though he tried hard at times. to each his/her own... you don't have to agree with me at all.... you can tell your JB sob story of his struggles and 6 shows in one day and leave out the high speed car chase/drug usage/ booze drinkage/jail timeage and paint a story of the lucky punk Prince who got a record contract early on undeserving of course (at least that's what you sound like your saying) what it all boils down too though is that same punk ass Prince has reached a level that there are peasants like us who frequent his site or sites based around him to discuss his "not as funky ass betcha if ole JB woulda stayed sober or not get locked up at an early age he could have dedicated himself to the music industry when he was younger and picked up a record deal too!  To Sir, with Love | |
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righteous1 said: Even though I love "P" we have to look at it in the scope of some of the other posters here.
JB IS the hardest working man in show buisness and will die with that title. Sure "P" is a workaholic but in HIS own right...of course my opion only. If I can say that Prince at 46 and JB at 74 are about equal in shows in this day only...when it comes to shows and musical feats "P" has some catching up to do. No diss at all but really the truth. So does the "P" you love deserve any title then? What title would that be? The most eccentric musician. Does he at least deserve a star on the HOLLYWOOD walk-of-fame *
 
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Ubiquity said: lunacoco said: Prince surpassed Papa James long ago.
Prince is 46. When James was 46, he had just released "Get up offa that thang". He was still the most important black artist in the music business. He had a solid career going since 26 years. He had played more shows than Prince, he had a much higher recording ouput (4 times higher). He never had a commercial break, like Prince, who had vanished from the charts for about 10 years. JB was always a hot artist, all the way through from 1956 ("Please, please, please") until about 1977. Then he had a major comeback with "Living in America" in 1985, which went Number 1, something Prince didn`t achieve since 1994. Up to this day, James is recording (though he lacks creativity today) and still playing all over the world. How did Prince possibly surpass James? Taking breaks to serve time doesn't beat an artist who vanished from some lame ass chart!  
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Ubiquity said: HiinEnkelte said: huh???? what???? 
that was a joke, right? No, quite serious. Before you make fun of JB, study him more. This man`s working credentials and discipline for more than 25 years can`t be beaten by anybody. Maybe by John Coltrane. Even today, at age 74, JB plays about 100 shows or more each year. He rehearses the band for about 2-3 hs before the concert, adding to about 5-6 hours on stage every day. Let`s see where Prince will be when he`s 74. Since P plays all the instruments on almost all of his studio recorded songs and James doesn't I'd say at 46 he's about even with James. Remember Prince may be influenced by JB's funk, but did JB make that funk alone or with his band. The time and effort and voice overs and playing each instrument alone track per track would keep anybody busy. This thread ain't about who sold more or who changed the direction of black music. This thread is about if Prince is the hardest working man in showbiz. Amazes me when someone being dogged by the masses wants to dog someone else. It's as if they will feel better if they are at least "better than" that person. We all the same stop with the greater than, less than mentality. - TheC | |
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PEJ said: to each his/her own... you don't have to agree with me at all.... you can tell your JB sob story of his struggles and 6 shows in one day and leave out the high speed car chase/drug usage/ booze drinkage/jail timeage What does the depression and the drug trouble JB went through in the mid-1980s have to do with his well deserved title of being the hardest working man in showbiz? Are you trying to erase the 30something years before that incident? I left out JB`s personal problems because they have nothing to do with this topic, and I left out Prince`s personal problems as well. So don`t go there. 
and paint a story of the lucky punk Prince who got a record contract early on undeserving of course (at least that's what you sound like your saying) I never said that it was undeserved. Prince is a very talented artist and deserved his contract. But he was only 20, and he never had to work and play as much as James did in order to get noticed. When Prince played his first show for record executives at the Capri in 1979, he was a very unexperienced live-performer and everybody who saw the show said that he sucked. what it all boils down too though is that same punk ass Prince has reached a level that there are peasants like us who frequent his site or sites based around him to discuss his "not as funky ass ... and that means what? 
betcha if ole JB woulda stayed sober or not get locked up at an early age he could have dedicated himself to the music industry when he was younger and picked up a record deal too! Maybe, maybe not. But let`s stick to history and not wishthinking. Back in the 50s it was much harder to score a record deal. Hell, R&B singers didn`t even do albums, they just cut singles. Besides, James got locked up as a teenager for pitty crimes, stealing hubcaps etc. Not for drugs. He was a very disciplined artist until the 1980s came around. Don`t get confused here. [This message was edited Fri Jul 23 3:27:33 2004 by Ubiquity] | |
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mellowDEEkOOL said: Taking breaks to serve time doesn't beat an artist who vanished from some lame ass chart! Get your facts correct. James was in jail from 1988-1990. That was his only real jail-time since he was convicted for petty crimes as a teenager. JB has always been around, and his working output of the past 50 years is simply much higher than that of Prince. At 46, James has done more shows, more singles, more albums, had more chart success and had a much higher impact on black music than Prince did. Sorry, but that`s reality. You can go back to famdom now. | |
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bROTHAmAURICE said: Since P plays all the instruments on almost all of his studio recorded songs and James doesn't I'd say at 46 he's about even with James. Remember Prince may be influenced by JB's funk, but did JB make that funk alone or with his band. The time and effort and voice overs and playing each instrument alone track per track would keep anybody busy. This thread ain't about who sold more or who changed the direction of black music. This thread is about if Prince is the hardest working man in showbiz. Playing all instruments doesn`t make an artist work harder than simply singing, writing, playing drums and keys. Again, James beat Prince because he has played more shows than pretty much any artist in black music, and that from a very early age on. Of course it has something to do with the times JB came out of. It was different back then. I never said that Prince is not a workaholic. But the title of "the hardest working man in showbusiness" is simply not his. | |
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You all need to peace out and enjoy all those musicians who make FUNK!
Music is not a competition. FUNKY PEEPS ... were are all on the ONE! Word!  | |
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newdawn said: You all need to peace out and enjoy all those musicians who make FUNK!
Music is not a competition. FUNKY PEEPS ... were are all on the ONE! Word! Prince is still the best!
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Ubiquity said: mellowDEEkOOL said: Taking breaks to serve time doesn't beat an artist who vanished from some lame ass chart! Get your facts correct. James was in jail from 1988-1990. That was his only real jail-time since he was convicted for petty crimes as a teenager. JB has always been around, and his working output of the past 50 years is simply much higher than that of Prince. At 46, James has done more shows, more singles, more albums, had more chart success and had a much higher impact on black music than Prince did. Sorry, but that`s reality. You can go back to famdom now. Get my facts straight? 1988-1990 ..... huh.. Do you know how much music this man is capable of creating in two years. You need to back up with that ill talk ...I need to... eh
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I bet the hardest working man in show business is still some unknown guy at an Indonesian CD pressing plant working at the assembly line for minimal pay. | |
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Huh?!?
I gotta get this one! Sounds promising: James Brown "The Original Disco Man" http://www.funky-stuff.co...isco70.htm | |
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PEJ said: newdawn said: I definitly agree. JB opened doors for new musicians like Prince. yeah yeah yeah and I'll bet your quick to say Jimi played better guitar than Prince too although your avie ain't showin Jimi playin with his teeth.... Prince got Jimi, James and GEORGE CLINTON all in his back pocket (scroll up and read about what Prince did for George) get a clue foolios!!!! Y'all are postin this stuff on a Prince site and YES I'm PRO PRINCE!!!! that's why we're all here and you know it! 
[This message was edited Fri Jul 16 20:39:56 2004 by PEJ] Did you know one of Prince's biggest songs was given to him by George (ghost writer) returned favor? hush hush on this.. | |
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I love all those cats. Prince, George, James they all work hard.
I will say over all James is the hardest cause he's been around longer and toured more. And his musical output is greater...Prince is still catching up. Even at 71 James is still on the road. Same thing with George. P-Funk tours probably more than any other band. Plus they have a huge output and still record alot of shit. Prince has a serious musical output he actually gets to the public. And he's back touring and in the public eye. BUT JAMES IN MY OPINION IS KING! I SEEN HIM IN HIS PRIME. SORRY BUT PRINCE CAN'T TOUCH HIM. MAYBE NOT EVEN NOW. JAMES STILL GETS DOWN!! GO CHECK OUT HIS SHOW. | |
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Are you serious??? 
How many songs has JB written? Has he done it virtually alone? "Work" doesn't mean just "touring", it's puttin' in the time in the studio too, it's promoting time, it's the countless hours forming the songs in your head and on paper. It's rehearsal time, it's the aftershows, it's overseeing a website. Macio said in a recent magazine interview that Prince doesn't let anything get by him, he's hands-on with everything, every detail. Prince is widely known to keep vampire hours, needing very little sleep. This man is music....His work ethic is legendary. JB may have been in the past...but Prince surpassed him LONG ago, and has been the uncrowned HWMISB to this day. Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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Prince is a modern day likeness of King James but he still has a ways to go. Different era my people. There has never been another showman like the legendary James Brown. In terms of music yes James might put out an album every 3 months while touring everyday (even though some songs wound up on multiple albums). I dont know if there has been another artist who has been as important to soul music period, certainly not Prince.
All you ney sayers need to go back and listen to James Brown Live @ The Apollo 1963, 1968 and then tell me if I'm wrong Peace | |
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Many of you have grown up on Prince but seem to lack musical knowledge or truly take the time to explore it.
James Brown worked hard and still does to this day. Sure Prince has made a comeback. But James has been there many times over the years. Is Prince an overall better songwriter...yes! JB was one dimensional in his songwriting ability. But overall JB kicked ass for a looooong time. Prince is imitating his style, dress,dance,music even has one of his old band members Maceo. Everything Prince is doing has already been done by both James at one point. James came up with his "own" musical style, worked hard. Toured his ass off constantly in the day. His band the JB's broke a serious sweat. JB at 46 danced all night and hard. Prince doesn't even dance most of the show. I saw JB in 75, he did the splits 4 times in a roll..bam bam bam bamm. Dude was badd! I've never seen Prince dance like he could. A mock copy. Prince is great but James Brown has earned that title cause he is the DNA and original FUNK master. He is still kicking a touring. This is like comparing Mike Tyson to Muhammad Ali. Both great but one was the Greatest! | |
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This thread has nothing 2do with who's better. It's have P wrestled that title away from JB? And i think that P has done that by still touring with amazing shows that seems 2 change everytime P tours, constant recording all the while battling the music industry 4 a decade and still kickin every1 elses ASS! He's just picked up JB's tourch and continued his legacy.P is the JB of his generation. Now i still think that JB is ahead of his old rival contemporaries from back in the day, just like G. Clinton and P-Funk would kick the Rolling Stone's ASS in a battle or any band from back in their day. But P is the man of his generation period! U,ME,WE!....2FUNKY! | |
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When Maceo Parker says that P is 1 of a kind and works as hard as JB then i have 2 respect that man's opinion bcuz he's been with JB and Clinton. That's what makes P so great. He learned from watching the best 2 become the best! Prince took what JB did in concert 2 another level just like Micheal Jordan took what Oscar Robinson did 2another level. It was inevitable. I hope that 1day i will live 2see the next Prince&beyond! U,ME,WE!....2FUNKY! | |
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