EYE'm completely confused. Universal Music claims they own some of prince's catolog (see link below)


http://www.umusicpub.com/...sp?ID=1640

Then on another uninversal site they list the labels that are under them-- neither Warner, Sony, nor Columbia are under Universal (see link below)

http://new.umusic.com/Lab...px?Group=1



So how the hell does Universal own anything of Prince's??? and better yet eye thought that not even warner owned his stuff anymore that supposedly he was "freed" in 1999, so in fact it would be NPG records that owns his stuff (aka Prince)

here is prince on the cover of columbia's web site (see link below)

http://www.columbiarecords.com/


Soooo let me see IF eye get it.... Prince owns NPG records he records and does his own marketing etc etc through NPG records, he uses columbia to distribute his CD's to stores like Kmart or whatever, but he uses companies like Universal to hold his roster of songs?????


SOMEONE HELP ME GET IT!!!!!
[This message was edited Fri Aug 6 18:33:26 2004 by PrimeraDama]

what about emancipation isnt that with EMI

maybe its part of universal now??

i am just guessing

Universal released the SOTT movie.

eye wish someone would just explain it all.... npgclub wont... they suck @ npgmusicclub

Universal doesn't own Prince's recordings; it simply administers his publishing. Warners owns all the recordings that they released (with the exception of TGE). Sony, EMI and Arista don't own anything, they simply signed distribution deals with him. Hope that clears it up for you.

TwiliteKid said:

Spot on. Couldn't have put it better myself

You all forgot BMG too, whom released the Newpower Soul album.

its called a "P & D" deal

think know why there's no songbook for Musicology... Warner Bros. handle the songbook publications from Sony albums, so it would need to say "A Warner Bros. Publication".... Prince would HATE that.

TwiliteKid said:

okay can u be more specific pls, how can one adminster publishings from a rival label???
why would Warner allow anyone to get a piece of the pie??? how can distributionn deals be made with rival labels???? NOW EYE'M REALLY CONFUSED LOOOOL :fallover:

BinaryJustin said:

And Best Buy (Redline Records) distributed The Rainbow Children.

PrimeraDama said:

publishing is different from sound recordings. they do not have to be together. WB owns the sound recordings (78-94), until 2001 (?), Warner Chappel (owned by same corporation as WB records, but separate entity) administered his publishing. At that point, P signed his publishing to UMPG, which again, is owned by the same conglomerate as Universal Records, but not the same entity. Controversy Music is prince's publishing co, but he signs with a major publisher so that he doesn't have to do the footwork to get paid. For this, the publishing company usually takes 50% (major artists can cut this number down SOMETIMES). It is well worth the 50% cut to do this, as someone is more likely to pay the big conglomerate that they'll have to do biz with again, instead of the little guy who they can just shrug off (ie, same story as chain record stores getting better deals from labels than indie stores).

out of all this, just remember: publishing is different from sound recordings. You write a song, that's one check.
You record a song, it's a completely different check (unless you're not recouped, then it's no check lol!!!)

soulsike said:

thank u