HisRoyalBadness07 said:

In a nutshell.

If you're going to use that interview, check out Three: "I'm not Jamie Starr". That was a lie. If you lie about one thing, who's to say you won't lie about another.

"im not jamie starr" is in reference to his track engineering on The Time albums, which he did not want to give away he helped, therefore letting The Time stand on its own. I dont think he would say "Im not gay" if he WAS gay , would he? he wouldnt even mention it, wouldnt he? there is alot more wieght to saying im not gay than im not jamie starr.oh, and no.1 is true by the way his name is Prince (and he is funky).

cuz most men arent sucure with their masculinity

I know a lot of gay people who would never admit that they are gay. I am not saying that Prince is gay because I don't know. If you look at his appearance it makes you wonder. He does some things that make me think he is gay, then he turns around and does other things that makes me think he is straight. That's what I love about him is the mystery. And if he is straight, I LOVE him for not being offended if people think he is gay. Would it bother you if he WAS gay? It wouldn't bother me if he was straight.

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muleFunk said:

I'm sorry, I hit the wrong button while ago. Anyway, I'm so glad you brought that point up. There are so many motherfuckers in the gay clubs that have been to prison. They were introduced to the lifestyle in prison and when they get out they continue to pursue it.

They are sexually attracted to women but they have no problem fooling with a man. But they consider themselves straight.....contradictorily, they will not tell straight people they fool with men. They go to the gay clubs thinking they can make some money....like gay people have to pay for sex. There are some stupid ass gay people that will give them money. These are the ones that I would like to beat their asses. How can expect to be treated as equals if you beneath yourself?

Anyway, it is an underground that no one knows about.

What gets me is... The same narrow minded 'prince is a poof' guys that you meet in a pub here in England. (You know the ones... 'I'm so stright on the outside, but...') They think that Queen and REM rock!
Shit... These guys even like Elton John!!

Honey, I don't know what the hell you are trying to say.....they say the speech is different on different sides of the ocean, but it sound like you are trying to say the same shit I'm talkin' about. PREACH DAMMITT!!!!

PRINCE - UBER GAY ?

THIS IS ONLY A THEORY I’m OFFERING UP. DON”T GET YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD ABOU T It.

Prince is at least bi-sexual if not fully gay. This can be evidenced in his clothing, his mannerisms, and his lyrics. Yes, I understand he has an obsession with viginas but on a symbolic level vaginas are merely inverted penises. And Prince has often been ass backward about things.

Because of the personal, racial and sexual repression that was so pervasive during the 70’s, Prince lives in a world of self-shame, and this is something that he has never been able to kick. It’s a very difficult balancing act for him to follow. He’s a musician at heart, and he has always tried to be as honest as possible with himself when it came to his art, but he hides this deep dark secret (at least for himself). Thus, in an effort to express his sexual orientation, he does so by indirectly stating it in his clothing, his mannerisms, and thinly veiled lyrics.

CLOTHING. Oh my God, he dresses so gay, that gay men themselves are completely unable to compete with his level of almost total and absolute gayness (when it comes to attire). If it isn’t assless pants and string bikinis with bandannas and leather boots that ride to the hips, it can probably be evidenced in the inch think makeup that borderlines on drag queen chic. Libarace’ could only dream of looking that good in Zoro suites.

MANUERISMS. What I mean by this is his little Shirly Temple Pouts (remember that skin crawling pout in purple rain with the stupid puppet?), his Bettie Davis bed room eyes (framed by massive dabs of eyeliner), and his tendancy to sound like a drag queen even when he lowers his voice. Liberace’ could only dream of sounding that way.

HIS LYRICS. Oh My God, he innuendo’s abound here. Prince is so gay in this department that he makes Morrissey’s “Hair Dresser on Fire” rhetoric look like Joey Soprano. Some evidence to this is:

From the Black Album: “I just hate 2 C and erection go to waste”….. (Why not make that lyric more plain by stating, “I just hate 2 C “MY” erection go to waste.” Now we’re forced to say, “Who’s erection, Prince?? Morris? Jerome? Kat’s?” Yeah, Yeah, Prince says later that “HE’s” rock hard in a funky place, but come on guys—that lyric was meant to make us wonder. And I for one, took the bait.

Boot Leg: School Yard. The entire Manage a Tois makes it sound like Prince, some chick, and a male friend all had consensual sex—during the entire length of this song, it’s never clear who all had sex with who. Prince, I plead with you—just admit it!

From the Song, BAMBI. “Bambi, can’t U understand? Bambi, It’s better with a man…” There are sooooo many less ambiguous ways to tell a lesbian that sex is better between a man and a woman than the way Prince is stating it. In phrasing the sentence this way (Which was very deliberate), Prince is forcing the audience to say, “How does he KNOW it’s better with a man?”. Oh, Prince, just come out and say it! Liberace’ could only dream of skirting so close with admitting.

From “We Can Funk” off Graffiti Bridge. “I’ll be Ur Boy or Girl, I will be Ur world”. Oh, Lawd, Prince—we understand kinky, but now we’re being forced to ask, is this about courting lesbians for the umpteenth millionth time, or is this about you courting different sexes? Prince, just admit it. Liberace’ could only dream of being this kinky.

From “Diamonds and Pearls”. Prince states: “If I gave U diamonds and Pearls, would U be a happy Boy or a Girl?”. He then mellows the lyrics down to sound like it’s not meant to have any sexual connotation.

There are many many more deliberately confounding lyrics in his library, but somewhere in the early 90’s till present day, he shifts his lyrics further away from ambiguously sexual to religiously confusing. Lyrics from albums after tend to be more straightforwardly heterosexual ones, with very few references to jacking people off, delving into ideas of being someone’s “Girlfriend”, and such. Albums after also tended to be more afro-centric than racially neutral (with the exception of Chaos and Disorder). His outfits now are becoming more about pimpin out then “Coming Out”.

But back in the day, Prince was very much trying to Come out in his songs. His lyrics are precise, deliberate, and purposefully scandalous. Pure Genous. Liberace could only dream of such flamboyant yet closeted behavior.

By the way, Liberace’ is mentioned in “Under the Cherry Moon.”

I wouldn't exactly say he was trying to come out but he definately choose lyrics to make you wonder. That's part of his success...the mystery.

ashley said:

i said straight , ashley

AsianBomb777 said:

Now I am really starting 2 wonder.....

If being considered gay is always having the finest women, then where do I sign up. Many people are just jealous because Prince can get away with things (ex-high heels, sexy fitted clothing, and making purple sexy) that the average man can't.

If Prince was really, seriously trying to tell us in his lyrics that he was gay, why wouldn't he just say it? Since when has he had concern about what people think? He tells us about hetero sex all the time--why would he be concerned about telling us straight up about homosexual sex? I don't really care if he is gay or straight, but honestly, if he was gay, we would know it. We wouldn't have to read deep, DEEP into his lyrics (which several people misinterpret, even in this thread) to find out what he is telling us.

If you want him to be gay, then he's gay. If you want him to be straight, he's straight.

I'm sure that's the way he wants it anyway...

vainandy said:

That has happened to me more than once also. I went to a party two years ago and everyone there was gay or bi. One guy walked up to me and asked me, "So, how do you and Angel feel about being the only two straight people here?" I just looked at him and said, "No different than if I was in a room full of straight people, why are you asking?" He just walked away, surprised. This same group and other straight people that I know were always questioning me as to why I was hanging out with them if I wasn't gay. So, what straight people can't hang out with gay people now? What kind of nonsense is that. I'm soo confident in who I am, that I can wear a dress made out of magazines and really don't give two lovely fucks about what people have to say. The people who question my lifestyle and choices are either jealous, envious, or curious which means that the majority of them are followers. Leaders and loners don't really care what anyone thinks or says, and I think Prince is a both a leader and a loner. Personally, I'm a loner. Being a leader is soo over-rated.

DavidEye said:

I'm surprised more people didn't touch on this. Whether you think he's gay or straight isn't the point. You're still paying attention. He's better at that than Madonna when it comes to getting attention.

His lyrics make you wonder, his fashion taste makes you question, these are the type of things that get people talking and keep people listening.

He's an artist-and this all adds to his mystique. He's a brilliant business man as well as being a great artist. Let's not forget the man's a Gemini either, people.

As a straight man I don't see how the point of his sexuality affects his ability as an artist in the slightest. You look at artists like Freddie Mercury, Cole Porter, Little Richard-the list goes on, they're all gay and they're brilliant musicians. One doesn't cancel the other out. That's just pure ignorance.

If you're swearing up and down he's straight or even if he's gay, bi, whatever, I think that's what he wants us to think. We keep talking, he keeps making music, we keep buying-his career goes on and on.

He's a brilliant showman-I think that should be kept in mind above everyone's theories. For someone with so many creative aliases I think we shouldn't put it past him that it's all a way to keep his name out in the public eye.

"why do people think prince is gay?"

A topic that has annoyed me for so so many years. First and for most, why would you worry about what others think regarding his sexuality. it's not you, and you don't sleep with him why give a fuck One would focus on his music and talent alone. I became a Prince fan so far back, ...I was the only guy in my school that acknowledge Prince . And all I ever heard was "He's a fag and you must be for liking him, cause I don't know any other dudes that like him but fags" This was before 1999 the Album when people usta say he was Devil music for reciting the Lord's Prayer in Controversy, (oh how far we have come). This attitude continued until Purple Rain. Then these same people come back and say "Man oh man...I have liked Prince all the way back to his first album. " Blah blah blah.
People think he's gay because he is a very sensual passionate man. And in a world where macho aggressive men are set as the standard to which we measure one's sexuality then Prince deviates from that gauge and people must pigeon hole someone to be able to process said person or idea to understand it from thier prospective.


As for if he is gay...well I have always said this...the truth comes out in ones actions versus what one says. Example...through out Prince's recording history since day one nearly all of his music relates to his experience with women. Wanting, having, needing, frustration, hurt dogging, loving etc. FROM day ONE!!!! just as long as we're together, soft and wet, so blue etc. Any experience he has had he writes about. Irresistible Bitch was about Vanity sleeping around (I believe this because it came out as a B-side in a rush during the start of the filming of Purple Rain and they were having their issues). When you see him it's always with women...when he has people come up on stage during his performance he picks women. When he did the side projects back in the day, ( the Time's first CD comes to mind), all heterosexual music. I have a copy of The Rebels Project (circa 1980) there is a track that is just him and some girl alone in the studio BS ing. Again always women being the focus...If someone says that's a facade then let me say this - Michael Jackson has been accused of being a pederast. And although one could say he "just likes Kids" well as I said before the TRUTH comes out. Through out Michael's History he has had little boys around him (BOYS). Even taking them with him to Awards shows. That fits the profile of a pederast. I am saying this to illustrate a point. If Prince were gay some where his history you would here or see these acts. If he were gay there wouldn't be any Children of the Sun CD it would have been made for some guy he was seeing.
The 3 CD set Emancipation, (which I think was excellent for the sheer volume of music), was written with Mayte in mind. Yet since their Break up - He doesn't perform any of the music, (I know some one is gonna say not true considering that he performs Jam of The Year) yet again for the amount of music he would play at least 4 songs from said CD. Christ!! He performs Mutiny. I believe that he does not play any of this as a way of shutting out Mayte. A WOMAN he was married to.

Regarding his wardrobe, fashion and make-up. Prince was never really the Fashion plate, until he started trying to gain a greater audience. The Ruffle "puffy" shirts which are always attributed to him actually were drawn from the film Amadeus in addition to the unisex style that was becoming the trend. Whenever Prince wants to be "Mainstream" he tones down his look to a stylish chic appearance. Example - Under the Cherry Moon. Throughout that time he wore basic suits. Then Prince goes on the deep end, with the letters on the sleeve crap (also a trend in American Fashion). And now the mainstream look again. Suits and ties, ascots etc.

Make-up, at first he did is here and there and then for show and the unisex look. And now he has done this for so long that it is park of his whole mystic. It is "Prince" the icon. Much like the heeled boots. As for his across the line fotos and such. Well music is still a business and at times you, find yourself trying to get marketed attention so you do some things to "raise the bar". I think this phase of his career is over. He will no longer try to stir up controversy via erotic foto's and such. He has grown beyond that.

In conclusion, Prince is not "gay" if anything his only psychological issue would be an obsession with women. To the point that if he awoke one day as a woman, rather than be shocked he would do a little autoeroticism. Just for the sensation of the new experience...write a song about it then go back to bed.

Thank you,
Whendovescry2000

I just can't believe all the things people say -- Controversy
Am I black or white? Am I straight or gay? -- Controversy
Do I believe in God? Do I believe in me? -- Controversy
Controversy
[This message was edited Tue Jul 20 11:02:31 2004 by whendovescry2000]

If he came out and admitted to being gay... I would...


I would instantly hate him and sell/destroy my whole collection.


This is hard to say because I've been a Prince fanatic since 1981.
In fact, in a lot of ways P raised me through my young and adolescent years.
If I found out that he was gay, I'd feel like he was the biggest liar, coward, and hypocrite ever. Fuck'em to hell!!!!!


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[This message was edited Tue Jul 20 14:47:28 2004 by ocadv]

Prince aint' gay.

putting this to bed...s'gone on long enough.