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NY Times: Prince in talks with WB to remaster 80s albums?? (with interview)

http://www.nytimes.com/20...2PRIN.html



July 12, 2004
For Prince, a Resurgence Accompanied by Spirituality
By JON PARELES

HANHASSEN, Minn., July 8 — The sound of someone knocking out a funk drumbeat thumped down a hallway as a visitor walked into Paisley Park, the studio complex Prince built in this Minneapolis suburb. Soon afterward the drummer emerged, wearing a white jacket of Chinese silk, tight white pants with buttons up the leg, white shoes and a red T-shirt lettered NPGMC. It was Prince, who had been using the time before an interview to record one more track for one more song in progress.

Prince has been virtually a one-man studio band since he released his first album in 1978, and in the years since he has recorded funk and rock, pop ballads and jazzy excursions; he has written streamlined, straightfoward hits and complex experiments. His skill and versatility have made him a model for musicians as different as D'Angelo, Beck and OutKast, and his storehouse of unreleased material, which he calls the Vault, may well hold thousands of songs.

"I record all the time," he said simply. But this afternoon he paused to reflect on what has been his best year in at least a decade.

Prince led off this year's Grammy Awards broadcast in February, joined onstage by Beyoncé, and he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in March. His current album, "Musicology" (Paisley Park/Columbia), has sold more than a million copies in the United States since it was released in June, and it is lodged in the Top 20 of the Billboard album chart. Meanwhile, Prince is selling out arenas on tour.

On Monday Prince starts a three-night stand at Madison Square Garden, followed by shows at the Continental Arena in East Rutherford, N.J. (July 16 and 18), the Hartford Civic Center (July 17) and Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale, N.Y. (July 20). He usually follows arena shows with late-night jam sessions at clubs. He has also renovated Paisley Park to change it from two recording studios to four. And on Dec. 31, 2001, he quietly married Manuela Testolini, a former Paisley Park employee.

Prince, 46, said he was a bit sleepy as he led his visitor into Studio A and settled in behind the 48-track mixing console. But on "Musicology" he boasted that he didn't have an Off switch, and he grew more animated as he spoke: jumping to his feet, picking up a guitar to play a funk vamp, declaiming and gesticulating like a gospel preacher.

The lascivious young man who recorded albums like "Dirty Mind" (1980) has affirmed a newfound faith. "I always knew I had a relationship with God," he said. "But I wasn't sure God had a relationship with me."

One of the new rooms in Paisley Park has the word "Knowledge" painted outside it. Its shelves hold books and pamphlets from the Jehovah's Witnesses, and a Bible sits open on a lectern. Prince has stopped using profanity and has stopped singing about casual sex.

"I've always understood the two to be intertwined, sexuality and spirituality," he said. "That never changed. What became more clear-cut to me was the importance of monogamy. And that was in the Scriptures many years ago."

"The word sex has been turned into something so. . . . it means so many things to so many different people," he added. "I don't use it much anymore. It's been sullied."

On tour, he has been reaching into his old repertory for songs like "Purple Rain" and "D.M.S.R.," which stands for "Dance Music Sex Romance." Is he embarrassed now by some of the raunchier songs in his catalog? "Embarrassed?" he said with a smile. "I don't know that word. Have you seen my outfits?"

Tabulating Prince's current success has been contentious. On his current tour, concertgoers receive copies of the album as part of the price of the ticket, and those albums have been counted for Billboard's chart rankings. "Once the ticket is sold, the CD is sold," Prince said. "It's one-stop shopping." According to Sony Music, those albums account for about 27 percent of sales of "Musicology." Yet even during the week ending July 4, when Prince was not playing concerts, the album sold 61,000 copies, keeping it at No. 15.

"One has been spurring the other, which is exactly what Prince thought it would do," said Michelle Anthony, executive vice president of Sony Music. "With someone like Prince, you almost have cover to break all the rules."

After complaints that Prince was giving the album away, Billboard and SoundScan, which compiles the charts, changed the method for counting album sales. If an album is sold with a concert ticket, the buyer now has to specifically authorize a surcharge for the price of the album if the sale is to be counted. Yet the rule is not retroactive, so Prince is likely to remain near the top of the chart for as long as he is on tour.

"I didn't do this to usurp power from Billboard or SoundScan," he said. "But the real power is in community, in actually connecting with people."

Prince's new visibility is not exactly a comeback. He never stopped making albums or touring, but for years he left behind the star-making machinery of the major labels. His longtime contract with Warner Brothers Records turned sour in 1993 as he changed his name to an unpronounceable glyph and appeared with the word "Slave" written on his face. Albums credited to Prince, with songs from the Vault and titles like "Chaos and Disorder," continued to appear on Warner until the contract ran out, while albums credited to the glyph were released independently. He is now negotiating with Warner Brothers over the release of remastered versions of his old albums, including a 20th-anniversary edition of "Purple Rain."

Prince formed his own company, NPG Records (for New Power Generation, the name of his band). Fans can subscribe to the NPG Music Club (www.npgmusicclub.com), which offers music to download and advance notice and discounts on concert tickets. After the Warner contract ended, Prince resumed using his old name.

By then he had decided on a new business model. In a typical recording contract, the label finances the recording of an album and other costs, then recoups its investment from the musicians' royalties, typically about 15 percent of the album's wholesale price. After costs are recouped, the label still owns the master recording, an agreement some musicians have compared to paying off a mortgage but having the bank still own the house. "There are a bunch of laws on the books that allow them to rape artists," Prince said.

Prince refuses to accept that arrangement anymore. In his current deal with Sony Music USA — Don Ienner, the president of Sony Music USA, called it unique — Prince pays for recording and promotional costs, and Columbia presses, distributes and markets the album, receiving a percentage of each sale. It is not a long-term or exclusive agreement, although Columbia would be happy to repeat it. "No one can come and claim ownership of my work," Prince said. "I am the creator of it, and it lives within me."

"It's the way it should have been a long time ago," he added. "The whole paradigm has got to shift. But I'm free now."

He tried a similar one-shot deal with Arista, in 1999, for "Rave un2 the Joy Fantastic," credited to the glyph, but its songs were more convoluted than those on "Musicology," which puts its funk and hooks on the surface. The album has made it easy for old fans to rediscover him and younger ones to connect.

"I make all kinds of records," Prince said. "For this album, I didn't feel like making some grand statement. It ain't like me trying to pull the trigger back and annihilate something. I'm just chillin'."

By this time, friends and family had drifted into Studio A: Prince's wife, the funk bass player Larry Graham and Mr. Graham's wife, daughter, son-in-law and grandson. The grandson, Jaiden Eittreim, 19 months old, was poking at a keyboard while Prince pushed buttons to trigger rhythm tracks, approving of the child's timing: "He is definitely going to be funky," Prince said.

Eventually it was bedtime, and Jaiden started to fuss and pout as he was dislodged from the keyboard. Ms. Testolini looked on with a smile: "That's just how Prince is," she said fondly of her husband, "when you try to take him out of the studio."
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Reply #1 posted 07/12/04 6:58am

antoon

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Holy shit!
That would be fantastic!

razz
555-4444 you're on coffee talk.
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Reply #2 posted 07/12/04 7:03am

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found it smile
[This message was edited Mon Jul 12 7:06:51 2004 by lovemachine]
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Reply #3 posted 07/12/04 7:05am

lovemachine

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Also, the NY Times usually doesn't get facts wrong but that number 15 on the charts and the 61,000 did include 36.000 giveaways from two concerts.
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Reply #4 posted 07/12/04 7:05am

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lovemachine said:

Where does it say that?

Prince's new visibility is not exactly a comeback. He never stopped making albums or touring, but for years he left behind the star-making machinery of the major labels. His longtime contract with Warner Brothers Records turned sour in 1993 as he changed his name to an unpronounceable glyph and appeared with the word "Slave" written on his face. Albums credited to Prince, with songs from the Vault and titles like "Chaos and Disorder," continued to appear on Warner until the contract ran out, while albums credited to the glyph were released independently. He is now negotiating with Warner Brothers over the release of remastered versions of his old albums, including a 20th-anniversary edition of "Purple Rain."


...i ain't holdin my breath for it, tho'.
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Reply #5 posted 07/12/04 7:07am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

lovemachine said:

Where does it say that?

Prince's new visibility is not exactly a comeback. He never stopped making albums or touring, but for years he left behind the star-making machinery of the major labels. His longtime contract with Warner Brothers Records turned sour in 1993 as he changed his name to an unpronounceable glyph and appeared with the word "Slave" written on his face. Albums credited to Prince, with songs from the Vault and titles like "Chaos and Disorder," continued to appear on Warner until the contract ran out, while albums credited to the glyph were released independently. He is now negotiating with Warner Brothers over the release of remastered versions of his old albums, including a 20th-anniversary edition of "Purple Rain."


...i ain't holdin my breath for it, tho'.


I just re-read it and found it. Thanks though
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Reply #6 posted 07/12/04 7:12am

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Prince in talks with WB to remaster 80s albums??



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Reply #7 posted 07/12/04 7:23am

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SquarePeg said:[quote]http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/12/arts/ His current album, "Musicology" (Paisley Park/Columbia),

lil sloppy there, NPG Records...what exactly was the last album credited to Paisley Park records?
you look better on your facebook page than you do in person hmph!
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Reply #8 posted 07/12/04 7:28am

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Eventually it was bedtime, and Jaiden started to fuss and pout as he was dislodged from the keyboard. Ms. Testolini looked on with a smile: "That's just how Prince is," she said fondly of her husband, "when you try to take him out of the studio."

Sounds lke Prince don't be given up the booty! The studio will always be his first wife.
Blue music
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Reply #9 posted 07/12/04 7:36am

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Eventually it was bedtime, and Jaiden started to fuss and pout as he was dislodged from the keyboard. Ms. Testolini looked on with a smile: "That's just how Prince is," she said fondly of her husband, "when you try to take him out of the studio."

Sounds lke Prince don't be given up the booty! The studio will always be his first wife.

giggle totally understandable--just about any artist of any sorta art form is the same way. art rules overall. nod
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Reply #10 posted 07/12/04 8:01am

OdysseyMiles

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

TheBluePrince said:

Eventually it was bedtime, and Jaiden started to fuss and pout as he was dislodged from the keyboard. Ms. Testolini looked on with a smile: "That's just how Prince is," she said fondly of her husband, "when you try to take him out of the studio."

Sounds lke Prince don't be given up the booty! The studio will always be his first wife.

giggle totally understandable--just about any artist of any sorta art form is the same way. art rules overall. nod


This is true. wink
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Reply #11 posted 07/12/04 8:01am

Anxiety

"Embarrassed?" he said with a smile. "I don't know that word. Have you seen my outfits?"


lol
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Reply #12 posted 07/12/04 8:29am

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That's great news about the remastering... looks like they are going to Kiss and make up. My guess would be that WB will add a few new trax to each, as seems to be standard operating procedure on these types of projects, and will get to release a new album in the next year or so as something as a thank you from Prince. I think this will be a lot of fun.
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Reply #13 posted 07/12/04 8:40am

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GEE ORG

THINK THEY COME OUT BEFORE SEVEN DISC SAMPLE BOX SET?

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Reply #14 posted 07/12/04 8:41am

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POOK said:


GEE ORG

THINK THEY COME OUT BEFORE SEVEN DISC SAMPLE BOX SET?

or roadhouse garden? mr.green
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Reply #15 posted 07/12/04 10:09am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

POOK said:


GEE ORG

THINK THEY COME OUT BEFORE SEVEN DISC SAMPLE BOX SET?

or roadhouse garden? mr.green


Yes, because they're coming from WB, not NPG. Heh.

Wow, good news about the Prince catalog and the Beatles catalog on the same day. I better go sell some plasma...
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Reply #16 posted 07/12/04 10:12am

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antoon said:

Holy shit!
That would be fantastic!

razz



Yes It WILL B!!

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Reply #17 posted 07/12/04 10:14am

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On tour, he has been reaching into his old repertory for songs like "Purple Rain" and "D.M.S.R.," which stands for "Dance Music Sex Romance." Is he embarrassed now by some of the raunchier songs in his catalog? "Embarrassed?" he said with a smile. "I don't know that word. Have you seen my outfits?"


I like that. Haters be silenced.
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Reply #18 posted 07/12/04 11:04am

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where the hell is "Hanhassen"?? biggrin
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Reply #19 posted 07/12/04 11:05am

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That was a damn good article on our Royal Badness. Glad to hear that he might be able to pull it off...
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Reply #20 posted 07/12/04 11:11am

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psssh, P probably mumbled something about remasters because he knew it would throw everyone in a froth. it was just a passing comment in a story about something else altogether and everyone's getting all excited about it. i just don't see it happening anytime remotely soon, though i would love to be proved wrong.

to quote george sr., NAH GAH DAH!!!!
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Reply #21 posted 07/12/04 11:18am

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the existing cds sound pretty good, but remastered ones that sound even better would definitely be a positive thing.
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Reply #22 posted 07/12/04 11:26am

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I can see it happening, if P gets a deal to his liking. Since WB would probably be in charge of the majority of it, it might actually happen. Still, can't count on anything with P. I personally would love to see everything prior to "Batman" remastered with bonus cuts.

Just as long as Prince doesn't go in and edit the "dirty words" out. That would piss me off. I have no problem with his current stance on not using profanity, but don't try to pretend like they weren't there in the first place. I would only be okay with it if two different versions of each were offered: one that is uncensored, and one that is more "family friendly" (although, Dirty Mind would become a REALLY short album!!).
jedi

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Reply #23 posted 07/12/04 11:56am

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JediMaster said:

I can see it happening, if P gets a deal to his liking. Since WB would probably be in charge of the majority of it, it might actually happen. Still, can't count on anything with P. I personally would love to see everything prior to "Batman" remastered with bonus cuts.

Just as long as Prince doesn't go in and edit the "dirty words" out. That would piss me off. I have no problem with his current stance on not using profanity, but don't try to pretend like they weren't there in the first place. I would only be okay with it if two different versions of each were offered: one that is uncensored, and one that is more "family friendly" (although, Dirty Mind would become a REALLY short album!!).



eek

I hope hope hope hope hope hope that Prince doesn't "alter" the old albums....
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Reply #24 posted 07/12/04 12:09pm

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KingSausage said:

JediMaster said:

I can see it happening, if P gets a deal to his liking. Since WB would probably be in charge of the majority of it, it might actually happen. Still, can't count on anything with P. I personally would love to see everything prior to "Batman" remastered with bonus cuts.

Just as long as Prince doesn't go in and edit the "dirty words" out. That would piss me off. I have no problem with his current stance on not using profanity, but don't try to pretend like they weren't there in the first place. I would only be okay with it if two different versions of each were offered: one that is uncensored, and one that is more "family friendly" (although, Dirty Mind would become a REALLY short album!!).



eek

I hope hope hope hope hope hope that Prince doesn't "alter" the old albums....


you know he will. how else will they fit into the s0-called 'knowledge' room at the park?
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Reply #25 posted 07/12/04 12:12pm

Universaluv

Albums credited to Prince, with songs from the Vault and titles like "Chaos and Disorder," continued to appear on Warner until the contract ran out, while albums credited to the glyph were released independently.

That doesn't sound right. Anyway, on the remasters, I'll wait until I see it in the stores before I get excited about it.
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Reply #26 posted 07/12/04 12:23pm

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oh lawd....larry and the family graham. just what prince needs - more graham influence.
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Reply #27 posted 07/12/04 1:17pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

He is now negotiating with Warner Brothers over the release of remastered versions of his old albums, including a 20th-anniversary edition of "Purple Rain."
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...i ain't holdin my breath for it, tho'.


me either neutral
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Reply #28 posted 07/12/04 1:36pm

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whatever happens,

i just need the full, 12 min+, remastered version of "Computer Blue"

thank you
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Reply #29 posted 07/12/04 1:55pm

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That's great news about the remastering... looks like they are going to Kiss and make up. My guess would be that WB will add a few new trax to each, as seems to be standard operating procedure on these types of projects, and will get to release a new album in the next year or so as something as a thank you from Prince. I think this will be a lot of fun.

Oh no,they 're not going 2 kiss and make up until they handover the Masters 2 P's back catalogue! They're just doing bizness right now!
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