Isn't it frustrating being a Prince fam?
Go ahead Prince. It's OK to double-dip into your back catalogue. I will forgive you. How can High and Avalanche not end up on Musicology? These are two of the strongest tracks he's had in years. For me, I'd replace Illusion..with High A million days.. with My Medallion On the Couch.. with Avalanche Life of the Party... with Daisy Chain and this album is improved tremendously. With more time and a better memory, I'd improve it even more..... | |
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thekidsgirl said: Musicology is a stripped down album with relateable lyrics
and it is simply lovely. A perfect summary of what's great about the album! When I go back and listen to much of his older material, it doesn't seem to have the same plain-spoken honesty that the best songs on the new record do. He's really just doing something different now, and I for one love it. | |
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jughead1 said:
[quote]For me, I'd replace Life of the Party... with Daisy Chain [\quote] Prince already released "Daisy Chain" -- it's on The Rainbow Children album and it's called "Family Name." Check it. | |
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FunkMistress said: Supernova said: My ears are fine, thanks. I hear SOTT era in WDUWM2D. As do I. Nothing about this song reminds me of "Off The Wall," an album I know quite well. Like paisleypark4 said, Musicology might be tame compared with other Prince releases, I don't find it the least bit dull. It's a sweet, enjoyable record, with some truly ass-kicking moments. Five years later, I barely listen to Rave, but Musicology grows on me more and more. I have a feeling it will become a classic of sorts in its own time. I agree FunkMistress. It's tamed but enjoyable! And MJ wish he had some shit that sounded like that! U,ME,WE!....2FUNKY! | |
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MattyJam said: Nothing like defensive fanatics without an ounce of objectivity...
Not much better than offensive fanatics... So people disagree with you and they are defensive fanatics? Generalize blindly, much? "...all you need ...is justa touch...of mojo hand....." | |
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while it's not spectacular, i do enjoy it. and THAT is what keeps it from being dull. it's probably a sad state of affairs, but i'm just really excited that it doesn't suck. haven't been able to say that about a full-fledged Prince release since..... mmmm, 9 years go
yeah, LotP and ICP&C really annoy me. but 2 clunkers out of 12 ain't bad. it's a better hit rate than all of his major releases since Gold..... (not counting contract filler and half-assed releases through the website...) Emancipation? about half & half.... 2/3 good, if i'm being generous NPS? yuck Rave? several decent songs, but as an album, it sure does suck. TRC? shows promise, but doesn't live up to the potential. too many cringe-worthy moments to not leave a sour impression. "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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Supernova said: MattyJam said: the very MJ-reminiscent What Do U Want Me 2 Do,
MJ? That's exactly what i thought when I heard it the first time. The beat is very Prince, but the chords are very Off the Wall era Michael (I'm not saying he stole it, it just reminds me of it). There is one song in particular it reminds me of (I think it goes: "Cant help it if I wanted to...") I think hes being a bit harsh about the rest, especially since he's comparing it to pretty tame albums like rave & emancipation. Think he just wanna be startin something! Check this song out at:
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Supernova said: MattyJam said: the very MJ-reminiscent What Do U Want Me 2 Do,
MJ? I agree. This is, by far, the best song on this album. Please don't ruin it by downgrading it to MJ status. | |
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psykosoul said: MattyJam said: Nothing like defensive fanatics without an ounce of objectivity...
Musicology is a commerical record for commercial means. It was blatantly calculated for airplay. And it worked. "Goody" for Prince. But a classic? I'm sorry, Sign O The Times it will never be. This statement would have worked better for your opening. I agree in comparison to Prince's previous work, Musicology is lackluster. In terms of Prince attempting to reach a new audience, the album works. However, for those of us who were able to experience SOTT as a new release, what sense does it really make to continue to compare Prince to his old catalog? Nothing will ever be another Sign O The Times. [This message was edited Thu Jul 8 11:51:03 2004 by psykosoul] I agree. SOTT will stand as the very best Prince album to ever hit the airwaves, followed closely by The Black Album, Parade... | |
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The Rainbow Children was a masterpiece. Seriously, it was like a more mature version of Lovesexy. BLEEP BLEEP! | |
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thekidsgirl said: Musicology is a stripped down album with relateable lyrics
and it is simply lovely. I was ready for a less conceptual album that I could just pop into my car and sing along with. Its not revolutionary, but its fun and light hearted Some people are always looking for the deeper meaning of any obscure, rare song that the public is "too stupid to see" Those people loose alot of time and miss alot of good music I'm glad U'r here, Kidsgirl!!! 26 years IT AIN'T OVER!!! There r... deep fun sexual spiritual emotional funky soulful rocky colorful extreme tasteful (did i mention sexual?) mind-blowing body-movin' tear-jerkin' moments on EVERY RECORD if we just bitch about what's on hand at the moment, we'll miss it. HAVE A BLAST!!! "Whatever skin we're in
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QuakeXLE said: simply put
This is not his best...nor his worst. There are songs which I absolutely love..and those which I can do with out. I tire of peeps always comparing each album to its predeccessors so harshly. Enjoy it for what is is...and you will sleep a lot better knowing somebody really digs this music...even if you don't. Its still Prince and we are showing him support. He isnt perfect. And he cant please all the poeple all the time. So just be satisfied..you're not pleased...but dont look so shocked cause other peeps have different opinions and a lot are. | |
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if you think "icpc" is funk, i'm scurred to think what you think things like "head" are categorized as. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: if you think "icpc" is funk, i'm scurred to think what you think things like "head" are categorized as.
"Head" would literally kill them... instant rigor mortis. I don't think they're ready. | |
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psykosoul said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: if you think "icpc" is funk, i'm scurred to think what you think things like "head" are categorized as.
"Head" would literally kill them... instant rigor mortis. I don't think they're ready. | |
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Prince did something that ppl have been on his ass to do for years.
Make a dull album? No. He is being tactful by releasing an easy to swallow album. He is playing it a little safe. What is the worst someone can say about Musicology? His exentric behaviour is out of control? No. It is good, but not his best effort. For a Prince album it could be seen as a little dull. How does it compare to it's contemporaries? Believe me, I was hoping that Musicology would sound like the ultimate-bomb !! but I am not dissapointed. It has some really cool songs and I love listening to it as is. "Hyperactive when I was small, Hyperactive now I'm grown, Hyperactive 'till I'm dead and gone"
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FunkMistress said: Jestyr said: There's a bass progression in What Do U Want Me 2 Do? that is VERY similar to one in I Can't Help It from Michael Jackson's Off The Wall record, but to say that WDUWM2D sounds like OTW is a sweeping generalization. Additionally, I Can't Help It was written by Stevie Wonder, so, if anything, Prince was emulating a Stevie Wonder joint not a Michael Jackson one. And to complain about that fact is missing the point of this project to begin with. Musicology is ABOUT returning to Prince's musical roots, so every song has some element of a sentimental yearning for return to or of some past period. U,ME,WE!....2FUNKY! | |
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MattyJam said: Come on... anyone who seriously believes this album is any better than Rave or Emancipation is seriously deluded. And anyone who believes Musicology is a return to his eighties standards has been reading too many reviews from music critics who hail Diamonds & Pearls as a record all future Prince releases should aspire towards.
With the exception of the gorgeous On The Couch and the very MJ-reminiscent What Do U Want Me 2 Do, the album is very weak, especially considering it only has twelve tracks. The title is a re-hash of a record he made three years ago, which wasn't even that special itself. Illusion, Coma... is a straight out pop record disguised as a "funk" work-out, for those who actually know very little about the genre. Life O The Party is the weakest and most offensive offering I've heard since Jughead. Cinnamon Girl is yet another bland soft-rock stadium filler that would sound better off on a Bon Jovi album where it really belongs. Call My Name is nice, but when you compare it to something like U Make My Sunshine with Angie Stone, you realise how below par it is. And Reflection is trying to be Circle Of Amour and falling flat on it's face everytime. If Musicology had tanked the way Rave did, it would not get the appreciation many of the fans give it - I'm sure of that much. [This message was edited Thu Jul 8 9:28:24 2004 by MattyJam] Your mum! | |
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illusion coma pimp is so cool with its retro keyboard funk bass thats all chopped up and minimalist like something new, and its completely addicting eastern key sing it out loud chorus... My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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MattyJam said: ...and the very MJ-reminiscent What Do U Want Me 2 Do
Call My Name is nice, but when you compare it to something like U Make My Sunshine with Angie Stone, you realise how below par it is.
Matty's entire post is BAIT!! Although I do agree about Cinnamon Girl belonging on a Bon Jovi album . [This message was edited Thu Jul 8 22:26:56 2004 by CalhounSq] | |
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I see Matty is now proving the point I was making in my "Negativity on the org" thread.
Keep up the good work. But be careful, the fams may start putting you in their hate file. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: Me! Me! Me! It's all about ME! And Prince! And what I think about Prince! And Me! Yea, ME!!
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"Musicology" might indeed be his dullest album ever given that there reall are no real rough edges on it, but that doesn't automatically mean that it would be one of his worst. Most Bergman movies as dull as fuck, but that doesn't exclude their status as great pieces of work. | |
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CalhounSq said: EvilWhiteMale said: Me! Me! Me! It's all about ME! And Prince! And what I think about Prince! And Me! Yea, ME!!
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FunkMistress said: PaisleyPark said: Prince hasn't put out one great album since Lovesexy which was just ok.
Face it. Make up your mind. Was Lovesexy great or "just ok"? Just ok. I'm afraid Prince has not too many 'great' albums. But he has made a lot of great music though. Yeah that's how i see it. Musicology is not 'great' either, it's avarage at best. | |
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MattyJam said: If you can't hear Off The Wall era MJ in that record you need to clean yo' ears!
yep. sounds like a mid tempo Get On The Floor(written by Jackson/L.Johnson) doesnt mean copying him tho. Mike's blood on sounds Prince-ish to me. A producer tought of the title and MJ has written it around the title. that's why it may be P-ish coz I read Prince writes most of his songs around the title. All his songs have cool names dont ya think? PR,LRcorvette,When doves cry etc Gotta admit that I'm not much of a fan of Musicology. But it's got some cool songs. As Paisley Park mentioned Prince dont have too many "great" albums. Coz he releases them every so often. don't wait much to put all the greatests in them | |
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MattyJam said: And anyone who believes Musicology is a return to his eighties standards has been reading too many reviews from music critics who hail Diamonds & Pearls as a record all future Prince releases should aspire towards.
[This message was edited Thu Jul 8 9:28:24 2004 by MattyJam] I really disagree with you. This album is very refreshing. It ranks right up there with all of his 80's stuff. IMO I can put it on and just let it play. I have not been able to say that since the 80's. There are NO Jugheads on THIS album. CALL ME A DREAMER 2! | |
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What I don't understand is why everyone has to be so critical all the time. Every album I have ever had from every artist has had tracks that I skip over because they are weaker than the others. The same is true for Musicology, but there are some really, really great tracks on that album.
People will go on and on about how Prince is such an amazing artist for having tried sounds that no one had heard before, and that he influenced so many people in the industry because he was so original... Did you ever stop to think that this is one of those cases? Maybe he was trying out something that he hadn't visited in awhile, to make it new and fresh again? If we are supposed to be a community of his biggest fans, why are we so critical? The same people that are so disappointed with this studio album will say tomorrow about how much better they like live cuts anyway... Why not listen to yourselves and appreciate the album for what it is-- Another Prince creation that we are lucky to be experiencing! ~ Alhiyh Don't be shy, this won't hurt a bit
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Jestyr said: MattyJam said: If you can't hear Off The Wall era MJ in that record you need to clean yo' ears!
There's a bass progression in What Do U Want Me 2 Do? that is VERY similar to one in I Can't Help It from Michael Jackson's Off The Wall record, but to say that WDUWM2D sounds like OTW is a sweeping generalization. Additionally, I Can't Help It was written by Stevie Wonder, so, if anything, Prince was emulating a Stevie Wonder joint not a Michael Jackson one. And to complain about that fact is missing the point of this project to begin with. Musicology is ABOUT returning to Prince's musical roots, so every song has some element of a sentimental yearning for return to or of some past period. The original post didn't complain about it sounding like Mike, he said it was one of the best songs on the album, and that it sounded like MJ. "I can't help it" is on Off the Wall, right? People seem offended to have Prince compared to Michael Jackson. I'm not a fan, but Off the Wall is a well written, incredibly produced album. Any comparison to Off the Wall is like a comparison to Quincy Jones and, as you said, Stevie Wonder (in the case of that song) as much as Micheal Jackson. Not so bad, in my opinion. MJ can't compare to Prince as an individual artist, but he has surrounded himself with great talent. To say that Prince's guitar solo on some song reminds someone of Beat It would not be an insult to Prince. Check this song out at:
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