Printable IF this story IS true, and why would someone lie?? (AND obviously if it IS, then prince IS a JW and we need not discuss THAT issue again), I have 2 give GREAT credit 2 prince 4 actually going door 2 door, being the "big" rock star/muscian he is, and NOT feeling "above" that part of HIS religion, since all other JW'S do it! He is saying if "they" can do the "work", so can I. He's NOT too arrogant 4 his chosen religion. I think he's setting a great example 4 others, whether OR not one believes in the doctrine of the JW beliefs, he is STILL setting a most esquisite example of being humble & proud of his beliefs no matter what others say AGAINST them, & of NOT being too "GOOD" 2 pound the pavement if thats a "requirement". I also believe larry graham deserves the same praise & respect, as HE was/& still is a super bass player and singer of "Sly & the Family Stone", as well as a very talented band member of prince's, and COULD feel above the "door 2 door" aspect of the religion of HIS choice as well, but doesnt! I dont feel they (as well as others of the faith) go door 2 door just 4 the purpose of raking in $$$. The main reason is "2 spread THEIR word" as thats the "only" way they can, as far as I know, 2 gain more followers. If U also are a JW or attended services, U would know they dont pass "baskets" around the second they see U walk in, as some churches do of other religions. They have places one can donate $$$ IF one CHOOSES with no pressure or HOW MUCH one donates per yr. written up in the yearly church newspaper, so U can see if U gave MORE than ur neighbors...which IS important 2 some ppl 2 keep up with that competition in lots of churches, mainly catholic. They also give ANYONE books (the JW'S) 4 FREE 2 take home & read about the denomination. There IS NO pressure. Now I, MYSELF, am not SELLING ANY religion here, just stating facts I know, bcuz there are certain issues of the religion I DO NOT know well enough, as well as agree with them. But then, thats why I've remained liberal as far as religion goes, as I believe there is something 2 learn, more in some than others, that we all can benefit from, as well as things that wont work or hit home. May the BELLS ring 4 U even when ur not in love.   | |
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garnis said: The JW were just at my door the other day. They gave me a flyer to read. Right on the front cover it says "There is no place in heaven for homosexuality" This turned me off right away. I believe God loves those who believe in his powers, reguardless of their sexual orientation. Besides, isn't Prince in the closet???
Ooh! I like U! There is no place in Heaven for Homosexuality because heaven couldn't be that big! Could U imagine the party though?! Line forms here... If it breaks when it bends, U better not put it in! | |
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GustavoRibas said: fairlite said: There is a passage in the bible about 144,000 People in israel. The JW twisted it to fit their religion.
- Thanks a lot! gustavo is rather wrong. look up rev 7:4-8. Rev 14:1-3. Both mentioning 144,000 people that would be standing in mount zion(aka heaven by most religious interpretations. | |
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SummerRain said: I am not saying this story is true, but i do believe it's could be bogus as well. As fanatical as we all can be, I think Prince would be a little reluctant to knock on someone's door in the middle of the day preaching without security. Besides why was this house the only home on the block targeted? JWs usually move on to the next house regardless if they were successfully influential. It may be true, I find it extremely hard to believe.
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Y'all are talkin' alot of mess,but I bet most of you guys would go crazy if Prince knocked on YOUR door (regardless of what he was there for)...lol | |
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I personaly don’t have a problem with prince witnessing door to door, the problem i have is the way CJ has written the article.
I admire anyone who stands by there faith and walks the walk. . [This message was edited Thu Oct 16 2:32:26 PDT 2003 by katt] | |
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DavidEye said: Y'all are talkin' alot of mess,but I bet most of you guys would go crazy if Prince knocked on YOUR door (regardless of what he was there for)...lol
As much as I love Prince and his music, I would not let him in my home. I have watched him closely and he falls into the aloof category of energy. One that doesn't like to share energy but enjoys taking energy from the person s/he encounters. Think of all the times you've been to a concert and you left physically drained. Too tired to walk to your car or hotel room, but would accept death at that moment. That's energy stealing and I am studying Princeboy so I can crack his power spell. Besides, I can't let anyone too close to the "import collection" I'm not suppose to own. To all that have escaped the matrix of organized religion (an association operated by humans and money is collected from its followers in return to keep the organization afloat... all to help mind controlled slaves get closer to "a chosen god"), we are the truly FREE ones. Cover your ears, hearts, and minds with protective cloaks so that evil wrapped in beautiful packages can not enter. | |
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incognito said: DavidEye said: Y'all are talkin' alot of mess,but I bet most of you guys would go crazy if Prince knocked on YOUR door (regardless of what he was there for)...lol
As much as I love Prince and his music, I would not let him in my home. I have watched him closely and he falls into the aloof category of energy. One that doesn't like to share energy but enjoys taking energy from the person s/he encounters. Think of all the times you've been to a concert and you left physically drained. Too tired to walk to your car or hotel room, but would accept death at that moment. That's energy stealing and I am studying Princeboy so I can crack his power spell. Besides, I can't let anyone too close to the "import collection" I'm not suppose to own. To all that have escaped the matrix of organized religion (an association operated by humans and money is collected from its followers in return to keep the organization afloat... all to help mind controlled slaves get closer to "a chosen god"), we are the truly FREE ones. Cover your ears, hearts, and minds with protective cloaks so that evil wrapped in beautiful packages can not enter. --- Put the crack pipe down. | |
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Good for you, I hope next time one of JW's knock on CJ's door she will listen. I know I would. He's only spreading the good News he's heard about.
I use to do the same thing. Now I Love him even more!!! I know about the rainbow children. | |
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 perhaps, if, this account is true, Rochelle (as she prefers to be called) home was in fact a "Not At Home". For those who may not be familiar with the term, a not at home is a household that was previously called on, but were not at home, or for some reason didn't answer their door. So.. in being thorough, they returned to try again to "share a life saving message". Therefore, that may be one of the reasons why Prince and Larry didn't go to the next door or house after they left Rochelles' house. Besides, as was mentioned earlier, when M.J. was active as a J.W. he too went from door to door but not in the way that most of us do. He makes music for all to enjoy, but Prince obviously is conscience of spirtual needs to. The point is Prince and his friends and family see the need to live up to their dedication and not only sing about doing the "Work", but do it for real. Good for you Prince! Be safe in Australia too. | |
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10/14/03 11:16pm perhaps, if, this account is true, Rochelle (as she prefers to be called) home was in fact a "Not At Home". For those who may not be familiar with the term, a not at home is a household that was previously called on, but were not at home, or for some reason didn't answer their door. So.. in being thorough, they returned to try again to "share a life saving message". Therefore, that may be one of the reasons why Prince and Larry didn't go to the next door or house after they left Rochelles' house. Besides, as was mentioned earlier, when M.J. was active as a J.W. he too went from door to door but not in the way that most of us do. He makes music for all to enjoy, but Prince obviously is conscience of spirtual needs to. The point is Prince and his friends and family see the need to live up to their dedication and not only sing about doing the "Work", but do it for real. Good for you Prince! Be safe in Australia too. And Yes be very , very safe on the Road. ```ENOUGH SAID``` THANKYOU BILL 
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incognito said: DavidEye said: Y'all are talkin' alot of mess,but I bet most of you guys would go crazy if Prince knocked on YOUR door (regardless of what he was there for)...lol
As much as I love Prince and his music, I would not let him in my home. I have watched him closely and he falls into the aloof category of energy. One that doesn't like to share energy but enjoys taking energy from the person s/he encounters. Think of all the times you've been to a concert and you left physically drained. Too tired to walk to your car or hotel room, but would accept death at that moment. That's energy stealing and I am studying Princeboy so I can crack his power spell. Besides, I can't let anyone too close to the "import collection" I'm not suppose to own. To all that have escaped the matrix of organized religion (an association operated by humans and money is collected from its followers in return to keep the organization afloat... all to help mind controlled slaves get closer to "a chosen god"), we are the truly FREE ones. Cover your ears, hearts, and minds with protective cloaks so that evil wrapped in beautiful packages can not enter. Intersting observation.The "accept death" part is a tad bit extreme, but yeah..large crowds do take a toll on your energy level.Im not sure that prince, specifically, has anything to do w/that though. If you experience that problem its best to do energy work (prayer, meditation, reiki..whatever floats your boat) beforehand and once you leave.I dont think I'd chalk this up to some spooky prince-type-thing. Just my humble opinion. -peace. | |
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found1 said: Intersting observation.The "accept death" part is a tad bit extreme, but yeah..large crowds do take a toll on your energy level.Im not sure that prince, specifically, has anything to do w/that though. If you experience that problem its best to do energy work (prayer, meditation, reiki..whatever floats your boat) beforehand and once you leave.I dont think I'd chalk this up to some spooky prince-type-thing. Just my humble opinion. -peace. Yeah, that was me before 1996 when I started practicing visualization, Reiki, MerKaBa, Past Life, and understanding the writings of The Celestine Prophecy and how energy works throughout the Universe. The last 15 Prince concerts I've attended have been interesting. I just vibe to the music and not stare at him like many do (and I use to) on the first two rows as if he's a god. So I'm no longer drained. It's nice to watch Prince and his band play instruments on stage and not let my energy be drained. Found1, people who study energy know how to use it to their advantage. All Prince has to do is think the thought first, then say it aloud, "I'm going to jam so hard this crowd is going to leave exhausted," then go on stage and put his thoughts and words into action--creative visualization. Anyone can do this, and we that know the boundaries of energy can block our energy from being drained. It happens all the time in arguments; if one person wins, that person walks away elated and the other walks away defeated and angry (less energy). But, I digress, I will always love Prince's music. It's just his lyrics of late bring more discord than discourse, which in my humble opinion is driving us further away from unity. | |
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Anyone else wish that LG and Chaka never got involved in this mans life? The "Prince" as we knew him is gone...he’ll never work with Wendy and Lisa because the JW’s don’t approve of their lifestyle…..he’ll never perform MANY (if not most) of the songs that made him “who he is” because the JW’s don’t approve of the content (sexual or religious).
It’s sad…..he can never be himself. If he were to come to my door I would do what I do to every other person who tries to push their ideas and beliefs on me…….I would question the reason for his. Twas like thunder! ThunderCer | |
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dearlybeloved said: One thing I want to know is why are we JUST NOW hearing this story... Yom Kippur was about 3 weeks ago right?! Is there a Jew in the house? If Prince came to my door the org would be the first to know about it. But then again no one would believe me.
So why did it take so long for us to hear about this if it is true...? anyone anyone... Somebody find me a calendar... Yom Kippur was the 6th. | |
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this reminds me of a day way back in the beginnings of the internet in the old prince chatrooom(circa 1996). Prince and Mayte came into the room and chatted(seemed real enough) anyway i went on to tell him that Lovesexy was the shit. He then went on to say that Lovesexy was only the beginning and he would be talking about the "truth" in upcoming albums.
I must say this revelation by CJ (who tends to get the goods on P) really crystalizes those words in my mind and makes me think that P is totally under the spell of the JW. It will be interesting to see if he every comes out of this fog in years to come. | |
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ThunderCer said: Anyone else wish that LG and Chaka never got involved in this mans life? The "Prince" as we knew him is gone...he’ll never work with Wendy and Lisa because the JW’s don’t approve of their lifestyle…..he’ll never perform MANY (if not most) of the songs that made him “who he is” because the JW’s don’t approve of the content (sexual or religious).
It’s sad…..he can never be himself. If he were to come to my door I would do what I do to every other person who tries to push their ideas and beliefs on me…….I would question the reason for his. Twas like thunder! ThunderCer Prince can work with whomever he choose to work with! It doesn't matter about their sexual orientation. I used to work in the entertainment business and I know other JWs that still work in the industry. I have never heard anyone say I don't want to work with a person because he or she is gay!! | |
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SensualMelody said: garnis said: The JW were just at my door the other day. They gave me a flyer to read. Right on the front cover it says "There is no place in heaven for homosexuality" This turned me off right away. I believe God loves those who believe in his powers, reguardless of their sexual orientation. Besides, isn't Prince in the closet???
Liar liar...pants on fire! Cause we have no such flyer  Your right about that Melody!!...There is no such literature!!! | |
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Yes True, there is no such literature of that kind. Please I would think that mature adults would at least get the facts straight.
However as a fellow Brother of Brother Prince Nelson, I am happy to know that my brother is following in Jesus footsteps. That explains fully why we as Jehovah's (that is God's Divine name) people go from door to door with God's Word of Truth to wherever people may be found. Glad to know Jehovah's day is coming soon and Sad to know that many who refuse The Truth will perish during that time. But as the time that is left is still here, the opportunity still exist to be found by Him. Your choice ... No forcing ... When the Truth Arrives ... Will U be left on The Other Side ... ??? Shalom, HolyRivs99@ ... | |
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If God has included for someone to be saved, they will be. If God has not included for someone to be saved, they won't be. There is nothing anyone can do to change this. If you can't take someone out of Gods hand, then how can you put someone in it? If everything that's been said will be, and All that was said has been. Then all that is, will be as it should. *** | |
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garnis said: The JW were just at my door the other day. They gave me a flyer to read. Right on the front cover it says "There is no place in heaven for homosexuality" This turned me off right away. I believe God loves those who believe in his powers, reguardless of their sexual orientation. Besides, isn't Prince in the closet???
i don't think those were JWs. we don't talk about people going to heaven like that. at least, we don't have any fliers like that, that i know of anyway. :O that CJ is a freakin idiot as usual. | |
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BWHAHAHAHAHHAAA!! Prince has finally lost it! | |
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AQUABOOGIE said: ThunderCer said: Anyone else wish that LG and Chaka never got involved in this mans life? The "Prince" as we knew him is gone...he’ll never work with Wendy and Lisa because the JW’s don’t approve of their lifestyle…..he’ll never perform MANY (if not most) of the songs that made him “who he is” because the JW’s don’t approve of the content (sexual or religious).
It’s sad…..he can never be himself. If he were to come to my door I would do what I do to every other person who tries to push their ideas and beliefs on me…….I would question the reason for his. Twas like thunder! ThunderCer Prince can work with whomever he choose to work with! It doesn't matter about their sexual orientation. I used to work in the entertainment business and I know other JWs that still work in the industry. I have never heard anyone say I don't want to work with a person because he or she is gay!! OK…..but the JW’s have an “anti” gay stance. Do you deny that? Do you think Wendy and Lisa would want to work with him? Actually, their minds are probably more open than his these days and they would have no problem. The JW’s have closed the doors in his mind to many things that he once had an open mind about. Has he found himself? Or has he allowed the JW’s (and LG) to mold him? Creatively…..are we going to hear going to ever hear the wonderfully SEXY songs he has created? Are we ever going to hear the hard driven songs? Are we ever going to hear him perform God, Another Lonely Christmas, 4 The Tears In U’r Eyes or 7 again? Or, has he creatively become a “spot-light” preacher for the JW’s? I am not against any religion in any way. I believe religion is wonderful if it helps people and is used for good. I just always thought of Prince as a spiritual person in his “own” religion (like me) and not a pawn of another. If JW helps him with has helped him find himself and has helped him face his demons that’s wonderful……much love to him. I just hope that the doors that JW has, or will, close don’t have an adverse affect. ThunderCer | |
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I heard this one on the radio, and I felt like laughing at the most recent stunt of CJ. Prince, as a JW, I'm sure is supposed to do door-duty. But, this has to be blown way outta proportion. How cool though, if Prince showed up at your door. I think I'd just pass out and miss the whole thang! Purple Hippies Bang Yo Head On The 1!Dance On, Fellow Purple People!
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ThunderCer said: AQUABOOGIE said: ThunderCer said: Anyone else wish that LG and Chaka never got involved in this mans life? The "Prince" as we knew him is gone...he’ll never work with Wendy and Lisa because the JW’s don’t approve of their lifestyle…..he’ll never perform MANY (if not most) of the songs that made him “who he is” because the JW’s don’t approve of the content (sexual or religious).
It’s sad…..he can never be himself. If he were to come to my door I would do what I do to every other person who tries to push their ideas and beliefs on me…….I would question the reason for his. Twas like thunder! ThunderCer Prince can work with whomever he choose to work with! It doesn't matter about their sexual orientation. I used to work in the entertainment business and I know other JWs that still work in the industry. I have never heard anyone say I don't want to work with a person because he or she is gay!! OK…..but the JW’s have an “anti” gay stance. Do you deny that? Do you think Wendy and Lisa would want to work with him? Actually, their minds are probably more open than his these days and they would have no problem. The JW’s have closed the doors in his mind to many things that he once had an open mind about. Has he found himself? Or has he allowed the JW’s (and LG) to mold him? Creatively…..are we going to hear going to ever hear the wonderfully SEXY songs he has created? Are we ever going to hear the hard driven songs? Are we ever going to hear him perform God, Another Lonely Christmas, 4 The Tears In U’r Eyes or 7 again? Or, has he creatively become a “spot-light” preacher for the JW’s? I am not against any religion in any way. I believe religion is wonderful if it helps people and is used for good. I just always thought of Prince as a spiritual person in his “own” religion (like me) and not a pawn of another. If JW helps him with has helped him find himself and has helped him face his demons that’s wonderful……much love to him. I just hope that the doors that JW has, or will, close don’t have an adverse affect. ThunderCer I don't deny that JWs do not practice homosexuality. However, we dont have an "anti-gay" stance. There are other religions that will protest at AIDS victims funerals. Thats not us!! We don't go around bombing abortion clinics either! There are many openly gay people in the entertainment industry. Why would Prince single out Wendy & Lisa? He would have to discriminate against wardrobe, makeup, directors, grips, actors, and other musicians,etc. I don't believe that story!! JW work with many people with different backgrounds and lifestyles... We just go to work and mind our own business!!! | |
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chiltonmusic said: jimino1 said: u gotta b suspicious of any1 having 2 go door 2 door spreading their beliefs...I mean...what makes them right and all of the rest of us 'clueless'...here we go...he will deserve everything he gets 4 this...such a shame...in the words of billy sparks...what a fuckin waste!
I have my own believes - and that is all...they r mine - if u want 2 know them u gotta get 2 know me...I ain't into brainwashing!!! no matter how nice I could be about it...I hope he doesn't try any of this shit in the soundchecks...we aint blind clueless fans over here...u wonder y there are so many problems in the world...a lot of followers...ppl just not thinking 4 themselves...dumbass sheep!!! Would you honestly be mad if he tried to share his beliefs with you? I honestly wouldn't care. I would listen to what he had to say and maybe debate and hopefully we would both learn. Contrary to popular belief Christianiy was not spread merely by wars. Christianity was spread by people sharing the word with one another. I don't think evolution of a person is a waste. I mean could you really still vibe to Prince if he was still writing songs like "Jack U Off" and the like? Don't me wrong all great songs but at 44 its time to grow up. I listen to R.Kelly he is 35 writing lyrics like a 15 year old. I am not impressed (though he is a very talented producer and entertainer). I don't know I just think that if the girl who wrote this was jewish and she wasn't offended (nor should she have been) and Prince was still respectful of her faith, desires and wishes, then I really don't see the big deal of it all. Excpet the fact the a world famous rock star came to your door to talk about God. Christianity? Do JWs believe in the Holy Trinity? | |
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jimino1 said: chilton said: (Would you honestly be mad if he tried to share his beliefs with you? I honestly wouldn't care. I would listen to what he had to say and maybe debate and hopefully we would both learn. Contrary to popular belief Christianiy was not spread merely by wars. Christianity was spread by people sharing the word with one another. I don't think evolution of a person is a waste. I mean could you really still vibe to Prince if he was still writing songs like "Jack U Off" and the like? Don't me wrong all great songs but at 44 its time to grow up. I listen to R.Kelly he is 35 writing lyrics like a 15 year old. I am not impressed (though he is a very talented producer and entertainer). I don't know I just think that if the girl who wrote this was jewish and she wasn't offended (nor should she have been) and Prince was still respectful of her faith, desires and wishes, then I really don't see the big deal of it all. Excpet the fact the a world famous rock star came to your door to talk about God.)
I know about the whole 'religious crusades' etc etc - I was brought up a catholic...I have no problem with P & larry going door 2 door...except that I used 2 like the way his beliefs were all ways 'inclusion' oriented - not exclusion oriented...dissappinted that he's gone the way of any organised religion - after all they r in reality only there 2 gain $$$ r'nt they...faith is a different thing entirely - I'd listen 2 P if he was talking about his own personel beliefs - but the JW's seem 2 have a different take on things that I would have expected P 2 have...so maybe he really has changed!!!BTW I think the Rainbow Children is an excellent album...I just wouldn't want to see P walking down the street bible in hand like that desperate MF larry  what a waste...he had better succes with his earlier method oif reaching people...but I guess he doesn't have 2 many people listening nowYou got that right, about JWs have a different take on things and a better success on his earlier inspiration (i.e. before Larry G). The Truth will be known when the Trumpet sounds! | |
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CCII said: Please tell me Prince isn't doing this. Damn! Damn! Damn! [This message was edited Fri Oct 17 1:35:10 PDT 2003 by Astasheiks] | |
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fairlite said:[quote]If this story is true there is no hope left for the guy. I never in 100 yrs thought he would go knocking on ppls doors. This is truely a sad day. [This message was edited Fri Oct 17 1:37:20 PDT 2003 by Astasheiks] | |
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